Bernie is the scumbag socialist we always knew he was

[UCFWayne]

I just want to say that I have special needs but I'm not mentally retarded.

oh you are special alright! lol

 

[UCFWayne]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...d-less-than-10-ounces-birth-japan/3026786002/

World's 'tiniest baby' boy who weighed less than 10 ounces leaves hospital after five months in critical care

truly amazing

 

[UCFBS]

My wife had preeclampsia too, although not severe and later in the pregnancy.
But I have news for you- do you know how doctors solve preeeclampsia past 30 weeks? They deliver the baby. I referred the testimony of a doctor's testimony to Congress to you about 5 times but you skipped over it every time. He said that in his 25 years of delivering babies, never, ever, has abortion been a credible or used solution for life threatening conditions to the mother in the 3rd trimester.
Even suggesting that abortion is the best recommended medial option was deemed absurd. They delivered the baby every single time to relieve the mother's condition.
And that is why your asinine defense of these disgusting, late term abortion laws that legalize elective abortions UP to birth is indefensible.

So, this is one area where Progressives get on my nerves.

Remember, I'm a Libertarian that believes abortion should be legal up until the baby is removed from the woman's body. I own that. I know several of you have a real issue with me over that.

But then Progressives use this 'logic' which pretty much is '0% science.' Why? Why can't they just admit they want a woman's right to abort whenever they want, as long as it's in the woman's body?

Nope, they want to demonize Republicans as not caring for a woman's body. And that's where it falls apart.

This whole 'War on Women' non-sense, when the Progressives are making their own bed, reminds me of this whole 'War on Serving Transgenders' in the wake of Manning's sentence being commuted.

Every time a Progressive talks about the 'medically necessary' case of late term abortions, let alone killing a baby of 30+ weeks outside the woman's body, I cringe just like I did when they were saying Manning was wrongly convicted and suffering in jail and needed her sentence commuted.

Same with the latest about the Trump ban on new Transgender entry - - not existing, but new (solving the no ex-post-facto) for those that will eventually get surgery. The US military bans entry or medically discharges a lot of people post-surgery for reasons of 'readiness.'

Other country's militaries also do the same thing, when their 'readiness' requirements match those of US forces. This includes some 'special forces' that match the requirements of the US Marine Expeditionary Forces when it comes to deployable combat roles too. We do follow the lead of other countries... Where their 'readiness' requirements are the same.

Progressives really need to STFU, and let us Libertarians make their arguments for them. Because they undermine themselves, and make us Libertarians look stupid... Because Progressives equate their views to things that we are not remotely arguing!

At this rate, Roe v. Wade will be overturned. Why? Progressive, 0% science logic. It's in total free fall right now. Women making arguments about things that aren't about their bodies at all. Women guilting men over things that men aren't even saying.

Just admit that if it's in your body, you want full control. I'll back women on that. Just don't try to say that men, doctors and others are going against medicine and science. Progressives just end up making Libertarians look like fellow idiots for supporting Pro-Choice, when we're focused on the Civil Liberties... Not 'hating on men' and 'hating on Republicans.'

 

[Crazyhole]

So, this is one area where Progressives get on my nerves.

Remember, I'm a Libertarian that believes abortion should be legal up until the baby is removed from the woman's body. I own that. I know several of you have a real issue with me over that.

But then Progressives use this 'logic' which pretty much is '0% science.' Why? Why can't they just admit they want a woman's right to abort whenever they want, as long as it's in the woman's body?

Nope, they want to demonize Republicans as not caring for a woman's body. And that's where it falls apart.

This whole 'War on Women' non-sense, when the Progressives are making their own bed, reminds me of this whole 'War on Serving Transgenders' in the wake of Manning's sentence being commuted.

Every time a Progressive talks about the 'medically necessary' case of late term abortions, let alone killing a baby of 30+ weeks outside the woman's body, I cringe just like I did when they were saying Manning was wrongly convicted and suffering in jail and needed her sentence commuted.

Same with the latest about the Trump ban on new Transgender entry - - not existing, but new (solving the no ex-post-facto) for those that will eventually get surgery. The US military bans entry or medically discharges a lot of people post-surgery for reasons of 'readiness.'

Other country's militaries also do the same thing, when their 'readiness' requirements match those of US forces. This includes some 'special forces' that match the requirements of the US Marine Expeditionary Forces when it comes to deployable combat roles too. We do follow the lead of other countries... Where their 'readiness' requirements are the same.

Progressives really need to STFU, and let us Libertarians make their arguments for them. Because they undermine themselves, and make us Libertarians look stupid... Because Progressives equate their views to things that we are not remotely arguing!

At this rate, Roe v. Wade will be overturned. Why? Progressive, 0% science logic. It's in total free fall right now. Women making arguments about things that aren't about their bodies at all. Women guilting men over things that men aren't even saying.

Just admit that if it's in your body, you want full control. I'll back women on that. Just don't try to say that men, doctors and others are going against medicine and science. Progressives just end up making Libertarians look like fellow idiots for supporting Pro-Choice, when we're focused on the Civil Liberties... Not 'hating on men' and 'hating on Republicans.'

Im sorry, but what on earth is the argument for killing a baby that can survive outside of the womb instead of inducing early labor or c section? Even if the baby needs an outside party to keep them alive, it sure seems like that is the responsible and moral thing to do. If the child can survive without being physically connected to the mother then there is no question that abortion is murder.

 

[fried-chicken]

Im sorry, but what on earth is the argument for killing a baby that can survive outside of the womb instead of inducing early labor or c section? Even if the baby needs an outside party to keep them alive, it sure seems like that is the responsible and moral thing to do. If the child can survive without being physically connected to the mother then there is no question that abortion is murder.

I want to know how many "murders" are happening. I saw a stat that .17% of abortions happen after 21 weeks and that 80% of those are due to a malformation. The survival rate of a baby delivered at 23 weeks is 30% so it seems like we're talking about maybe 60 or 70 per year. That's less than the amount of people killed by right wing terrorists.

600,000 abortions
.17% after 21 weeks
1020 abortions after 21 weeks

1020 abortions after 21 weeks
20% nonmalformed baby
204 after 21 nonmalformed

204 after 21 weeks nonmalformed
30% viability at 23 weeks

61 babies aborted that would have survived.

 

[Crazyhole]

I want to know how many "murders" are happening. I saw a stat that .17% of abortions happen after 21 weeks and that 80% of those are due to a malformation. The survival rate of a baby delivered at 23 weeks is 30% so it seems like we're talking about maybe 60 or 70 per year. That's less than the amount of people killed by right wing terrorists.

600,000 abortions
.17% after 21 weeks
1020 abortions after 21 weeks

1020 abortions after 21 weeks
20% nonmalformed baby
204 after 21 nonmalformed

204 after 21 weeks nonmalformed
30% viability at 23 weeks

61 babies aborted that would have survived.

So what you are saying is that our abortion laws have directly allowed the murder of 61 babies per year. Do you really want to put your name behind the death of 61 people per year?

 

[fried-chicken]

So what you are saying is that our abortion laws have directly allowed the murder of 61 babies per year. Do you really want to put your name behind the death of 61 people per year?

Sure if you're willing to claim the 1300 children killed by guns each year so you can have your little toys.