Bill Nye the "sex junk" guy

[Bob the Citronaut]

You can't expect government to fix that, it's not their role.

The government also shouldn't take part in manipulating/regulating markets that in turn kills jobs and industries. “We’re going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business”.

Let the markets decide when new energies are needed. They're not stupid, they know coal will eventually become too expensive to mine and that is why most companies are diversified.

 

[UCFKnight85]

Wind power is huge in the Rockies and great plains. Like half of eastern Colorado is wind farms. I saw many in Idaho too. Firms are trying to get licenses for the oceans as well. Solar is expanding too, which is why the power companies spent so much money trying to curb it in the last election.

Powering Colorado and Idaho is not quite the same as powering cities east of the Mississippi.

 

[Great2BAKnight2]

The government also shouldn't take part in manipulating/regulating markets that in turn kills jobs and industries. “We’re going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business”.

Let the markets decide when new energies are needed. They're not stupid, they know coal will eventually become too expensive to mine and that is why most companies are diversified.

In a perfect world, it would be a fully free market with no government intervention/regulation. But that's not how things work and it never will be. That's why the onus is on the individual to adapt. It's not on the government to find a replacement job, even if they're responsible for shaping the industry.

 

[CommuterBob]

More sex talk from Bill Nye. WTF.

 

[EweSeaEff]

Ok, but contrary to left wing belief, there is not a right wing conspiracy to kill solar or wind energy in this country. The biggest producer of wind power in the nation is deep red Texas.

So why then are these not rapidly catching on nationally, if they really are cheaper on a non-subsidized basis? If they were competitively cheaper and more readably available, there's no reason why the markets wouldn't have moved onto them as main power sources by now. But that's not happening.

Many factories are opting for NatGas ahead of wind or solar.

This should not be a political debate. It's not about left vs. right. Anyone that says otherwise, on either side, is a nutjob. The legislative change that occurred in Georgia a couple/few years ago was led by the tea party (they actually referred to themselves as the "green tea party" during their efforts to get more solar-friendly legislation passed). Sen. Grassley (R) from Iowa is one of the leading advocates for wind power in the Senate. Republican governors from Arkansas, Iowa, Kansas and South Dakota (among others) are part of the bipartisan Governors' Wind and Solar Energy Coalition. Again, this shouldn't be about R's vs. D's, but about uniting our country around energy independence. Take global warming and climate change out of the equation and it STILL makes complete sense.

Why is it not rapidly catching on nationally? Well, first, I'll counter that it is catching on nationally. Need proof? In 2016 alone, of the 27,761 MW of new electricity generating capacity, 8,182 MW (29%) was solar, 8,762 (32%) was wind and 8,788 (32%) was natural gas - representing a total of 93% of all new capacity. Contrast that to the less than 1% of new dirty (coal and oil) electricity generating capacity installed during the same timeframe. 2015 saw similar numbers as well: 3,521 MW (18%) of solar, 8,328 MW (44%) of wind and 6,386 MW (33%) accounted for 95% of all new generation. How is that not "catching on nationally"?

Now, I'll give you that there are markets that see more capacity installed than others (which holds true for other forms of electricity generation as well). Some of that has to do simply with geography, but most has to do with politics and lobbying. For instance, recall that I mentioned the tea party's involvement in changing Georgia's legislation. That amounted to a push by those who favor free markets over government-sponsored monopolies. Shouldn't we all be allowed to purchase power from anyone we want? I certainly think so; however, in Florida, unless you are a "regulated utility" you cannot sell power. Why is that? Because NextEra/FP&L and Duke/Progress were two of the largest corporate contributors to Gov. Scott's election and re-election (not to mention the additional contributions they made to the Republican Governors' Association and other PACs). The utilities don't want competition and the government is more than willing to keep them happy so long as the utilities keep writing those checks. So much for the "Sunshine State".

 

[EweSeaEff]

Powering Colorado and Idaho is not quite the same as powering cities east of the Mississippi.

A lot of that power gets wheeled out of Colorado, Idaho, Montana, Oregon, North Dakota, South Dakota, etc. It's not all consumed in the same territory. The same holds for east Texas. You don't think the consumption in east Texas is enough to take all of the production, do you?

 

[UCFKnight85]

More sex talk from Bill Nye. WTF.

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It's easier to understand when you remind yourself that the guy is a left wing hack pundit with an engineering degree that goes around pretending to be a scientist on TV.

 

[NinjaKnight]

Let the markets decide when new energies are needed. They're not stupid, they know coal will eventually become too expensive to mine and that is why most companies are diversified.

Do you want to end up like China? Because that is how you end up like China.

The free market is great for a lot of things, but unregulated energy production is not one of them, unless you enjoy chewing your air before breathing it.

 

[UCFKnight85]

Do you want to end up like China? Because that is how you end up like China.

The free market is great for a lot of things, but unregulated energy production is not one of them, unless you enjoy chewing your air before breathing it.

You're joking yes? Using China as an example of the ills of unregulated free market capitalism? Really??

This is the same country where the ruling government mandates they build cities purely for the sake of building something, with no demand, that sit emptyfor years.

If building in China was tied to actual market forces, it'd probably be a hell of a lot cleaner and less full of pollution. They're building nonstop at the mandate of a government that ignores market forces and manipulates production outputs, all while using the most convenient energy source, being coal. You wouldn't see private entities building massive apartment complexes with no actual tenants lined up.

 

[NinjaKnight]

You're joking yes? Using China as an example of the ills of unregulated free market capitalism? Really??

This is the same country where the ruling government mandates they build cities purely for the sake of building something, with no demand, that sit emptyfor years.

If building in China was tied to actual market forces, it'd probably be a hell of a lot cleaner and less full of pollution. They're building nonstop at the mandate of a government that ignores market forces and manipulates production outputs, all while using the most convenient energy source, being coal. You wouldn't see private entities building massive apartment complexes with no actual tenants lined up.

I have neither the time, nor the crayons to explain just how stupid this post is in a way that you would be able to comprehend. Please stop being retarded.

 

[Bob the Citronaut]

Yeah 85, you're retarded. China is a complete free market. Communist states with state owned companies are the pinnacle of free market capitalism.

 

[UCFKnight85]

Yeah 85, you're retarded. China is a complete free market. Communist states with state owned companies are the pinnacle of free market capitalism.

Sorry I missed that. I'm so dumb! Live free or die is now the Communist Party mantra and I simply missed that.

 

[btbones]

I have neither the time, nor the crayons to explain just how stupid this post is in a way that you would be able to comprehend. Please stop being retarded.

I must admit I laughed

 

[Knight_Light]

Do you want to end up like China? Because that is how you end up like China.

.

Of course not....It's all about the Rising Sun now.

 

[UCFKnight85]

Lulz

On Bill's last show, he pushed for the merits of eugenics, wished the US was a lot more like Niger, pushed for population controls in developed countries, and brought on fellow nutjobs to argue for the case of developed countries being forced into child birth controls.

I think the guy is mentally unstable. He has taken up the cause of using people in Niger as an example of what society should be (you know, for carbon and stuff) while omitting the fact that Niger is one of the poorest and most violent nations on earth.

Democratic ticket in 2020: Sarah Silverman/Bill Nye.

 

[rediceknight]

Bill Nye touches little children.
It is so obvious that he does. Is it not?
What a creep. They are not even trying anymore.

I always thought there was something about Nye that was just creepy.

But I suppose we have to bow before the great minds of the U. N. and braniac Bill Nye for our scientific knowledge.

And I still have that deed to that bridge in Brooklyn.....

 

[NinjaKnight]

Bill Nye touches little children.
It is so obvious that he does. Is it not?
What a creep. They are not even trying anymore.

I always thought there was something about Nye that was just creepy.

But I suppose we have to bow before the great minds of the U. N. and braniac Bill Nye for our scientific knowledge.

And I still have that deed to that bridge in Brooklyn.....

Given the intelligence level of the detractors (this clown, 85, bob) for Nye, it's obvious he's on to something. I watched the first two episodes and while not funny, they were factually accurate.

 

[UCFKnight85]

Given the intelligence level of the detractors (this clown, 85, bob) for Nye, it's obvious he's on to something. I watched the first two episodes and while not funny, they were factually accurate.

You're his target audience- arrogant self absorbed individuals who think being an engineer provides the cover needed to lecture to everyone else about science.

I look forward to you slobbing over his episode on why eugenics is awesome and we should be more like Niger.

 

[fabknight]

You're his target audience- arrogant self absorbed individuals who think being an engineer provides the cover needed to lecture to everyone else about science.

I look forward to you slobbing over his episode on why eugenics is awesome and we should be more like Niger.

This post is awesome.

 

[NinjaKnight]

You're his target audience- arrogant self absorbed individuals who think being an engineer provides the cover needed to lecture to everyone else about science.

I look forward to you slobbing over his episode on why eugenics is awesome and we should be more like Niger.

No offense, but your post doesn't really hold much water given your complete lack of regard for facts and crazed obsession with Bill Nye.

Seriously point to the doll where Mr. Nye touched you.

 

[UCFKnight85]

No offense, but your post doesn't really hold much water given your complete lack of regard for facts and crazed obsession with Bill Nye.

Seriously point to the doll where Mr. Nye touched you.

You mean facts, like that pesky free market going rogue in Communist China?

 

[NinjaKnight]

You mean facts, like that pesky free market going rogue in Communist China?

You have no idea how much I was hoping you or bob would bring that up again. Somehow bob outsmarted you and kept quiet on the subject.

Please explain, using facts to support your argument, exactly how a free market (meaning no government regulations on pollution or dumping of waste) does not lead to massive and wholesale destruction of the environment.

I'll save you the time and embarrassment by letting you know that it is impossible, because the government is the only one that can impose regulations. Otherwise companies would obviously attempt to maximize profits by reducing costs in treating waste, etc.

References: the Cuyahoga river catching on ****ing fire

 

[UCFWayne]

You're his target audience- arrogant self absorbed individuals who think being an engineer provides the cover needed to lecture to everyone else about science.

I look forward to you slobbing over his episode on why eugenics is awesome and we should be more like Niger.

 

[Bob the Citronaut]

You have no idea how much I was hoping you or bob would bring that up again. Somehow bob outsmarted you and kept quiet on the subject.

Huh? I was mocking you in that post. China is not a free market. They're not even close to the US or even Europe. The government controls everything in China. The largest company in the world is owned by the Chinese government (State Grid, the Chinese utility company). Any foreign company that wants to do business in China has to partner 50/50 with them and give them access to their IP and trade secrets. How can you argue that government control leads to less abuse and pollution. Russia, China, Venezuela, etc, etc, etc, etc.

 

[NinjaKnight]

Huh? I was mocking you in that post. China is not a free market. They're not even close to the US or even Europe. The government controls everything in China. The largest company in the world is owned by the Chinese government (State Grid, the Chinese utility company). Any foreign company that wants to do business in China has to partner 50/50 with them and give them access to their IP and trade secrets. How can you argue that government control leads to less abuse and pollution. Russia, China, Venezuela, etc, etc, etc, etc.

Wow. You lose any points I previously gave you for intelligence by completely ignoring the rest of my post. You don't even have the excuse of plasuible deniability like 85 is going to use to ignore my post (if he has a shred of common sense).

Now you get to answer my post. How would a 100% free market be different this time around? Explain how companies would not just dump their waste into the ground/river/air if all the regulations are removed?

 

[Bob the Citronaut]

When has there ever been a 100% free market? What 100% free market are you drawing your "facts" from?

 

[NinjaKnight]

When has there ever been a 100% free market? What 100% free market are you drawing your "facts" from?

Nearly every major country up until about 50 years ago before environmental regulations were introduced was for all intents and purposes a 100% free market in regards to manufacturing and pollution, which is the basis of my argument.

 

[UCFKnight85]

LOL

If there was any doubt as to whether Nye is now nothing more than a left wing SJW mouthpiece, I give to you this:

http://freebeacon.com/culture/netfl...-remove-segment-chromosomes-determine-gender/

Bill Nye and his snowflakes mandated that Netflix actually edit out a portion of a really old show he did. What did they edit out? The segment where Nye explains that science dictates through chromosomes that there are 2 genders.

This is where we are in 2017: fake scientists lecturing others about science, while demanding streaming services edit out parts of old shows, because the science doesn't mesh with existing left wing groupthink.

 

[NinjaKnight]

LOL

If there was any doubt as to whether Nye is now nothing more than a left wing SJW mouthpiece, I give to you this:

http://freebeacon.com/culture/netfl...-remove-segment-chromosomes-determine-gender/

Bill Nye and his snowflakes mandated that Netflix actually edit out a portion of a really old show he did. What did they edit out? The segment where Nye explains that science dictates through chromosomes that there are 2 genders.

This is where we are in 2017: fake scientists lecturing others about science, while demanding streaming services edit out parts of old shows, because the science doesn't mesh with existing left wing groupthink.

I love the fact that your rage boner for Nye exceeds your pride. You did EXACTLY what I said you would do (reference: 3 posts above yours), yet still posted in here because you couldn't pass up the chance to talk about Nye. This is just hilarious.


And since you were stupid enough to bring up the crazy rights latest talking point, I'd like to point out that unlike idiot neocons like yourself, science has this amazing ability to change based on new data. You should really give that a shot before embarrassing yourself further.

Last thing: before you respond to any of the above, you must first answer my question that I asked you before. You gave up your chance to use the "plausible deniability" excuse when you replied to this thread. I know this will be difficult for you, but that's what makes this great.

 

[NinjaKnight]

Forgive me for posting twice in a row, but I really just can not let such an amazing opportunity go by. Does anyone else appreciate the amazing irony of the religious-right getting their panties in a twist over the advancement of science? To break it down:

1. 20 years ago Billy made a science show for kids with what was known.
2. Time passes, science marches on (despite objections from 85)
3. Bill updates old show removing inaccurate material
4. Religious right faux-rages hard

I know the catholic church would prefer if we kept things simple and bible based and threw out all that new fangled science stuff like heliocentrism, but that is the world we live in today.

 

[UCFKnight85]

What a hilarious load of horeshit. I've never seen someone suck off such a moron so hard in my life.

First off, there is no "scientific consensus" that there are now more than 2 actual genders. None. This is pure pseudo-science bullshit pushed by left wing pundits.

Second, the idea that Nye is updating this show "for science" is hilarious. He updated it quite clearly because it's an actual scientific rebuttal, from HIMSELF, to the non-scientific absolute f*cking nonsense he's been pushing on his shows. He updated it because it embarrassed him amongst his new liberal talk show circles.

Like I said- you're his target audience. Insufferably smug, arrogant anti-religious bigoted millennials who think that flipping on Netflix specials and reading targeted blog spots make you intellectually superior to everyone else who "just doesn't get it". You routinely make the case that criticizing Nye must mean you "suppress science" or something.

I'll remind you that you're whining about my criticism of a guy who used his asinine show to make a case, a hard case, for the benefits of eugenics in the developed world. He outright said that there should be penalties and controls on whom can have children- so long as you're in the evil developed world. This is a guy who went on his show to make the case that we should use Niger as an example, not even understanding that he contradicted his own asinine comments, considering Niger families on average have way more kids than here.

You're whining about my criticism of a guy who used India as an example for the advancement of women's rights. India- a place where women are often gang raped by men who are protected by their local police and jurisdictions.

If you want to continue defending this clown then have at it. I can't wait for his next season where he espouses the benefits of population decreases via nuclear holocaust.

 

[NinjaKnight]

Still avoiding the orginal question. Just like I said you would. Thank you for continuously proving me correct.

 

[UCFWayne]

The science of genders was settled a long time ago. There are only 2 options; XX and XY. To say anything else is a lie and not backed up by any facts what so ever. Nothing changed in the time between when that show was taped and now. The only change was a change in political ideology.

 

[NinjaKnight]

The science of genders was settled a long time ago. There are only 2 options; XX and XY. To say anything else is a lie and not backed up by any facts what so ever. Nothing changed in the time between when that show was taped and now. The only change was a change in political ideology.

This is, obviously, not true. There are XXY Klinefelter, X0 Turner, XXXY, Triple X, etc.

Source - http://www.who.int/genomics/gender/en/index1.html

 

[UCFKnight85]

This is, obviously, not true. There are XXY Klinefelter, X0 Turner, XXXY, Triple X, etc.

Source - http://www.who.int/genomics/gender/en/index1.html

This is, obviously, an attempt to hijack the debate.

If someone wants to assert that there are 60 sub-genders under the larger umbrella female gender, which corresponds to the biological sex of the person, and the internal/external body parts that come with it, then fine. It doesn't change the fact that saying someone is female in society corresponds to a person with ovaries, breasts, and a vagina. This is not even debatable.

This whole debate would be a lot easier if SJW's weren't flying off the handle anytime someone asked "male or female"?

If the SJW needs to answer "female" but caveat it with her 200 digit subgender then have at it.

 

[NinjaKnight]

This is, obviously, an attempt to hijack the debate.

If someone wants to assert that there are 60 sub-genders under the larger umbrella female gender, which corresponds to the biological sex of the person, and the internal/external body parts that come with it, then fine. It doesn't change the fact that saying someone is female in society corresponds to a person with ovaries, breasts, and a vagina. This is not even debatable.

This whole debate would be a lot easier if SJW's weren't flying off the handle anytime someone asked "male or female"?

If the SJW needs to answer "female" but caveat it with her 200 digit subgender then have at it.

Holy hell. I didn't even read your probable shit post because you are STILL ignoring my original question. Answer the damn question. You are not allowed to respond until you either::

A) answer the damn question
B) Admit you were wrong

I'd suggest going with option B since it is incredibly obvious to everyone that you were wrong, which is why you have been ignoring it this whole time.

 

[EweSeaEff]

This should not be a political debate. It's not about left vs. right. Anyone that says otherwise, on either side, is a nutjob.

Well, shit, I guess I discovered the first nutjob since I posted the above comment:

It seems pretty clear that Trump didn’t like the narrative that the Democrats won this latest round of budget negotiations, as POLITICO's Sarah Ferris, Jennifer Scholtes and Josh Dawsey report. There’s also this from a tax perspective: Mick Mulvaney, Trump’s budget chief, noted that Democrats “didn’t get a penny” for renewable energy subsidies as he listed GOP wins in the agreement. But while Democrats are arguably the more fervent supporters of green energy incentives, there was a bipartisan effort last week to get those tax breaks into the budget deal, paired with a nuclear energy tax break that’s also important to some GOP lawmakers. In fact, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said he would vote against the legislation partly because of the nuclear exclusion.

 

[NinjaKnight]

I'm offering 10-1 odds that 85 replies to Ewe's post while continuing to ignore all mine.

 

[UCFKnight85]

I'm offering 10-1 odds that 85 replies to Ewe's post while continuing to ignore all mine.

I might. Ewe is far less insufferable than you.

 

[EweSeaEff]

I might. Ewe is far less insufferable than you.

Thanks...I think?