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Haven't watched it yet, but if it has our resident Einstein's Bob and 85 popping rage boners it must be both informational and entertaining.
Bill Nye "whines" on CNN because one of the 5 people on the show do not share his exact same opinion. He whines in just the first 90 seconds.
#unreal
Funny to see this Mechanical Engineer whine that someone might disagree with him in regards to his views on "science".
But he's absolutely right!!! Climate change is widely accepted within the scientific community so CNN not paying homage to the fact that 98 out of 100 scientists believe climate change to be occurring leads to a growing stupidity in America.
Anyone that denies climate change is just as stupid as the people who blame humans for global warming.
Did someone say pollution wasn't bad ?? I'm just curiousIgnoring the painfully obvious consensus that pumping trillions of pounds of CO2 into the atmosphere does indeed cause bad things to happen...how about this study showing huge differences in birth weights (one of the best indicators of infant health) due to pollution in general (not just CO2).
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/04/150428171400.htm
Did someone say pollution wasn't bad ?? I'm just curious
I'd like to drill Palin. She is a dirty, dirty girl.Trump seems hell bent on Palin's "drill baby drill" environmental policy, so it's not that people are saying pollution isn't bad, just that they would gladly put cheap dirty energy over clean more expensive energy.
Trump seems hell bent on Palin's "drill baby drill" environmental policy, so it's not that people are saying pollution isn't bad, just that they would gladly put cheap dirty energy over clean more expensive energy.
Trump seems hell bent on Palin's "drill baby drill" environmental policy, so it's not that people are saying pollution isn't bad, just that they would gladly put cheap dirty energy over clean more expensive energy.
And the left has environmental warriors who oppose any new nuclear energy, despite the fact it's entirely CO2 free and we know exactly how to produce new plants. France generates most of their energy from nuclear power yet we have people saying we shouldn't expand our own output.
That is the issue here. Not that Trump or his people want to flood the market with "dirty" sources of energy. Just that we should stop trying to force everyone into 2-3 preferred sources of renewables favored by the left wing lobbies, for technologies that just aren't ready to fuel a country like the US yet.
No oil. No coal. No nuclear. They want everything to run on solar and wind tomorrow. It's unrealistic and stupid.
If the thesis is that CO2 is going to kill us all sooner than later, then these people should be begging for CO2-free nuclear power plants.
I do not understand why people oppose nuclear, I am 100% for it. In fact I just watched the first episode of bills show and they had some people on there advocating for it.
You are wrong about Trump and coal though, at least if you listen to his campaign rhetoric.
Before you guys start crapping on coal, you better head to the states and localities that are built on the coal industry and look them in the face and tell them the alternative.
It's easy to sit at your computer and crap on coal. It's not so easy to transition entire counties that are built on the coal industry.
See what I did there? You're so far out of fvcking touch it's ridiculous. So modernization and innovation should just take a back seat because it would put a small number of people in certain jurisdictions out of work? Here's something to blow your mind, did you know that between 2015 and 2016 there were more people employed in the solar energy industry than all traditional fossil fuels (nat gas, oil and coal) combined? In fact, solar employees made up just under 50% of total employment in the energy sector in the U.S. and wind energy employment was third behind combined fossil fuel employment.Before you guys start crapping on horse-drawn carriages, you better head to the states and localities that are built on the horse and buggy industry and look them in the face and tell them the alternative.
It's easy to sit at your computer and crap on horse-drawn carriages. It's not so easy to transition entire counties that are built on the horse and buggy industry.
Bullshit comment is bullshit. Wind and utility-scale solar are cheaper than coal, even on a non-subsidized basis and without the added social externalities and societal subsidies of dirty fuel:Cars were more efficient than the horse and buggy. Not true with coal and renewables. Killing coal isn't about money, it's about politics.
Bullshit comment is bullshit. Wind and utility-scale solar are cheaper than coal, even on a non-subsidized basis and without the added social externalities and societal subsidies of dirty fuel:
Another important factor left out of the chart above, as it pertains to nuclear, is the cost of decommissioning and insurance for nuclear plants. Adding in those essential costs to every nuclear plant would push nuclear much farther to the right (and possibly even off the chart).
What data are you using, boob, to argue that coal is more efficient than solar? Solar has an endless fuel supply while coal must be mined, etc. Also, about 30% of burned coal is considered converted for energy production. There are solar panels on the market today that have an efficiency rating of 40%, and that rate continues to climb.
The problem with coal is that coal mining jobs aren't coming back, even if coal returns to prominence (although it hasn't slipped all that much). The mining jobs have been dropping for years, mostly due to better techniques and automation.Before you guys start crapping on coal, you better head to the states and localities that are built on the coal industry and look them in the face and tell them the alternative.
It's easy to sit at your computer and crap on coal. It's not so easy to transition entire counties that are built on the coal industry.
In 1980, the industry employed about 242,000 people. By 2015, that figure had plunged 60 percent, to fewer than 100,000, even as coal production edged up 8 percent. Helped by automation, worker productivity more than tripled over the same period, according to data from the federal Energy Information Administration and the Brookings Institution.
Before you guys start crapping on coal, you better head to the states and localities that are built on the coal industry and look them in the face and tell them the alternative.
It's easy to sit at your computer and crap on coal. It's not so easy to transition entire counties that are built on the coal industry.
Bullshit comment is bullshit. Wind and utility-scale solar are cheaper than coal, even on a non-subsidized basis and without the added social externalities and societal subsidies of dirty fuel:
Another important factor left out of the chart above, as it pertains to nuclear, is the cost of decommissioning and insurance for nuclear plants. Adding in those essential costs to every nuclear plant would push nuclear much farther to the right (and possibly even off the chart).
What data are you using, boob, to argue that coal is more efficient than solar? Solar has an endless fuel supply while coal must be mined, etc. Also, about 30% of burned coal is considered converted for energy production. There are solar panels on the market today that have an efficiency rating of 40%, and that rate continues to climb.
The chart you posted shows coal is cheaper or as cheap as everything else. What are you arguing? You've already resorted to cursing and name calling so it's obvious you are unable to debate this topic objectively.
Apparently the meth production in your trailer park is melting your brain. The chart shows coal costing between $60 and $143 per MWh. By comparison, utility scale solar is between $46 and $61 per MWh and wind is between $32 and $62 per MWh. By the way, add somewhere between $90 and $140 per MWh (per a study conducted by Harvard Medical School) to coal's cost for environmental and health effects directly attributable to coal. Also not factored in coal's cost as shown in the graphic is the cost of transportation from mine to point of consumption.
Wind power is huge in the Rockies and great plains. Like half of eastern Colorado is wind farms. I saw many in Idaho too. Firms are trying to get licenses for the oceans as well. Solar is expanding too, which is why the power companies spent so much money trying to curb it in the last election.Ok, but contrary to left wing belief, there is not a right wing conspiracy to kill solar or wind energy in this country. The biggest producer of wind power in the nation is deep red Texas.
So why then are these not rapidly catching on nationally, if they really are cheaper on a non-subsidized basis? If they were competitively cheaper and more readably available, there's no reason why the markets wouldn't have moved onto them as main power sources by now. But that's not happening.
Many factories are opting for NatGas ahead of wind or solar.
This logic is absolutely terrible.
You have way too much hyperbole in this rant.You guys need to chill out. Was there anything in my post that made me a coal loving energy wingnut?
Read it again.
Apparently you like to treat certain cities and states as "flyover" country. There are real people living there that have for generations worked these mines. The only problem that I have with alternative sources of energy (well, other than the fact that most don't work as well as promised) is that politicians generally take a crap on an entire state with the stroke of a pen without any regard to what real people are going to do when you outlaw their jobs.
You guys love to shove your charts and your data down people's throat. That's great. Typical politicians that don't give 2 craps about people ... only science.
You want to rid the world of dirty coal for good? Next time, instead of just wiping out thousands of families with a pen, come up with alternative sources of livelihoods for the people working there. Cause when you don't, crap like this always happens and the first politician that promises them their jobs back will win.