Canadian trucker protest

[Cubs79]

Sure. By looting and setting fire to businesses and setting siege to government buildings and assaulting cops.

Most protestors didnt loot or set fire to anything, you know that, and you have never seen me support the ones that did. We also no for a fact that there were boogaloo boys and I think even a cop in Minneapolis who did their part of vandalism to blame it on BLM. Unlike the Ingraham's and Hannity's of the world who tried to blame 1/6 on antifa, we know there were right wing aggitators in the BLM mix.

But the truckers are also disrupting businesses, yet you are supporting them, because that is the way the inconsistent winds of the modern conservative mind are blowing.

 

[Crazyhole]

Most protestors didnt loot or set fire to anything, you know that, and you have never seen me support the ones that did. We also no for a fact that there were boogaloo boys and I think even a cop in Minneapolis who did their part of vandalism to blame it on BLM. Unlike the Ingraham's and Hannity's of the world who tried to blame 1/6 on antifa, we know there were right wing aggitators in the BLM mix.

But the truckers are also disrupting businesses, yet you are supporting them, because that is the way the inconsistent winds of the modern conservative mind are blowing.

Most of the 1/6 protestors didn't assault cops or set fires, loot, etc. Was their protesting ok?

 

[UCFKnight85]

My point is how inconsistent a lot of conservatives are on this issue. I think their protest is stupid, but I think people have the right to protest. Many of you guys were throwing a fit during BLM protests, but now are a-ok with protesting. Tomi Lahren is so dumb she even compared them to the founding fathers. I have said this on this board before, and I will say it again, the modern day Republican party doesnt stand for anything, so your views just go with whichever way the wind is blowing.

The issue with BLM protests is that they typically went from protest to riot/arson/looting and mass assault. Most “protests” were just violence.

 

[Crazyhole]

Most protestors didnt loot or set fire to anything, you know that, and you have never seen me support the ones that did. We also no for a fact that there were boogaloo boys and I think even a cop in Minneapolis who did their part of vandalism to blame it on BLM. Unlike the Ingraham's and Hannity's of the world who tried to blame 1/6 on antifa, we know there were right wing aggitators in the BLM mix.

But the truckers are also disrupting businesses, yet you are supporting them, because that is the way the inconsistent winds of the modern conservative mind are blowing.

So are you cool with this?:

 

[Cubs79]

Most of the 1/6 protestors didn't assault cops or set fires, loot, etc. Was their protesting ok?

A higher percentage of them were either breaking into the capitol or assaulting people than at BLM protests but sure, the people who were just standing around yelling or something, I dont have a problem with that. I mean its stupid because they are basically protesting democracy, but that is their right.

 

[Cubs79]

So are you cool with this?:

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I dont have that much of an issue with it. It is a different country so I dont know all of their laws, but blocking the roads is against the law I am sure, so not allowing people to aid in others breaking the law doesnt seem out of line.

 

[Cubs79]

The issue with BLM protests is that they typically went from protest to riot/arson/looting and mass assault. Most “protests” were just violence.

Most were not violent at all, much less "just violence". Sure there was violence and looting, I dont deny that, but there were protests all over the country and most were not violent.

 

[Crazyhole]

I dont have that much of an issue with it. It is a different country so I dont know all of their laws, but blocking the roads is against the law I am sure, so not allowing people to aid in others breaking the law doesnt seem out of line.

An oppressive government will use its power to keep people from supporting one another if it opposes the oppressive government. You're cool with that just because it's "the law"?

 

[Vote for Rusty in 2022]

Word to the wise, folks: Jack Posobiec deals in a lot of fake news deep state bullshit. Some of what he says is true. A lot of what he says is intentional garbage.

Keep him at arms length.

 

[Cubs79]

An oppressive government will use its power to keep people from supporting one another if it opposes the oppressive government. You're cool with that just because it's "the law"?

The government being oppressive is a matter of opinion. Most developed nations have long had health regulations from everything to food inspection to yes, even vaccines, and for the most part people are not only ok with it, they approve of it. This whole thing has just been turned political so it is easy to stir people up into thinking it is oppressive, but if this is oppressive, then wouldnt you have to argue any public health regulation is oppressive?

 

[Vote for Rusty in 2022]

The Gateway Pundit reached out to GiveSendGo. Jacob Wells responded:

"GiveSendGo account has not been shut down. GiveSendGo is not subject to Canadian court order. We are not Canadian citizens. We will issue a press release shortly."

 

[Crazyhole]

Word to the wise, folks: Jack Posobiec deals in a lot of fake news deep state bullshit. Some of what he says is true. A lot of what he says is intentional garbage.

Keep him at arms length.

Ontario court freezes access to donations for truckers' protest from GiveSendGo

Yeah, about that whole deal....

 

[Crazyhole]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/freedom-convoy-2022-donations-frozen-give-send-go-1.6347345

Keep the CBC at arms length as well.

 

[Cubs79]

Just an FYI on this but I am reading hardly anybody in Canada supports this and they are blaming right wing groups in America for funding it.

 

[Crazyhole]

Just an FYI on this but I am reading hardly anybody in Canada supports this and they are blaming right wing groups in America for funding it.

Lol. Yeah, 50,000 truckers and farmers in Canada are doing this because of right wing groups in the US. I suppose all of the protests in Europe are actually the proud boys as well.

 

[Cubs79]

Lol. Yeah, 50,000 truckers and farmers in Canada are doing this because of right wing groups in the US. I suppose all of the protests in Europe are actually the proud boys as well.

50000? It is nowhere near 50,000 It is like a couple thousand trucks at most. But even in saying that, Canada is almost 40 million people, 50k is nothing.

 

[Crazyhole]

50000? It is nowhere near 50,000 It is like a couple thousand trucks at most. But even in saying that, Canada is almost 40 million people, 50k is nothing.

"A press release posted by Freedom Convoy group on Facebook on January 26 stated, "Although our initial convoy (is) estimated to be 1,600 trucks, that number significantly increased to 36,000 trucks in just a few days. It is now estimated that the number of heavy trucks heading to Ottawa is closer to 50,000." It is believed by authorities that the number is steadily increasing with trucks converging in on Ottawa from all sides and with no end in near sight."

How many trucks have joined the Freedom Convoy? Thousands protest vax mandates at Ottawa

Are there really more than 250,000 truckers in the Freedom Convoy? Read on to find out

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[Cubs79]

"A press release posted by Freedom Convoy group on Facebook on January 26 stated, "Although our initial convoy (is) estimated to be 1,600 trucks, that number significantly increased to 36,000 trucks in just a few days. It is now estimated that the number of heavy trucks heading to Ottawa is closer to 50,000." It is believed by authorities that the number is steadily increasing with trucks converging in on Ottawa from all sides and with no end in near sight."

How many trucks have joined the Freedom Convoy? Thousands protest vax mandates at Ottawa

Are there really more than 250,000 truckers in the Freedom Convoy? Read on to find out

meaww.com

Lol, well ok, if the organizers say it is 50,000, obviously it must be true. And Trumps inauguration speech was full of sunshine and a much larger audience than Obama's, or something.

 

[sk8knight]

They should have caved. Who cares if they don't want the vaccine. Truckers that are quarantined by their jobs with a vaccine that doesn't stop the spread.

In a free society, it should be left to the people who are using the truckers' services to determine if they want to work with unvaxxed truckers. The government should stay out of it.

For this discussion may be important to note that, as of January 30, 2022, 88.91% of Canadian adults are "fully vaccinated" according to the original definition.

 

[Crazyhole]

Why would they stop you from leaving the country if you are part of the protest? Seems like it would make more sense to kick you out.

 

[Cubs79]

Lol. Yeah, 50,000 truckers and farmers in Canada are doing this because of right wing groups in the US. I suppose all of the protests in Europe are actually the proud boys as well.

'I hope they clog up cities': Sen. Rand Paul hopes Canada trucker protest spreads to US

In a Daily Signal interview, Sen. Rand Paul said he would support protests in the U.S. similar to those taking place in Ottawa over vaccine mandates.

news.yahoo.com

Yeah, nothing right wing about this protest. Now a senator who is more interested in political theatre than actually accomplishing anything is wanting the protests to come to cities throughout America. So, Ill ask the question I brought up earlier, in states who made it easier to run over protestors, would be ok with it if people ran over these protestors? Just seeing how consistent people are.

 

[Cubs79]

In a free society, it should be left to the people who are using the truckers' services to determine if they want to work with unvaxxed truckers. The government should stay out of it.

For this discussion may be important to note that, as of January 30, 2022, 88.91% of Canadian adults are "fully vaccinated" according to the original definition.

There is also no vaccine requirement in Canada for people driving inside of Canada. THe requirements only apply to truckers crossing the border, we have the same policy with truckers coming in through our borders as well. Considering that almost 90% of Canadian truckers are vaccinated, and this really only applies to American truckers crossing the border, it seems like this whole protest is basically over something that barely affects anyone.

 

[UCFloridaTech]

'I hope they clog up cities': Sen. Rand Paul hopes Canada trucker protest spreads to US

In a Daily Signal interview, Sen. Rand Paul said he would support protests in the U.S. similar to those taking place in Ottawa over vaccine mandates.

news.yahoo.com

Yeah, nothing right wing about this protest. Now a senator who is more interested in political theatre than actually accomplishing anything is wanting the protests to come to cities throughout America. So, Ill ask the question I brought up earlier, in states who made it easier to run over protestors, would be ok with it if people ran over these protestors? Just seeing how consistent people are.

...should the truckers start looting stores and burning buildings?

 

[UCFloridaTech]

So the 89% don't think it works if they are worried about the 11%.

This has been my point, if you're vaxxed, boosted, and wear a mask...wtf are you worried about?

 

[Cubs79]

...should the truckers start looting stores and burning buildings?

No. Should people being able to run over them in states that made that ok for BLM protestors?

 

[UCFloridaTech]

No. Should people being able to run over them in states that made that ok for BLM protestors?

If protesters threaten people in vehicles, self defense.

 

[UCFloridaTech]

...moral of the story, if you need hockey equipment, avoid Canadian online stores, regardless if they offer free shipping.

 

[major.tom.foolery]

There is also no vaccine requirement in Canada for people driving inside of Canada. THe requirements only apply to truckers crossing the border, we have the same policy with truckers coming in through our borders as well. Considering that almost 90% of Canadian truckers are vaccinated, and this really only applies to American truckers crossing the border, it seems like this whole protest is basically over something that barely affects anyone.

Canadians are racist for trying to block people from south of the border from entering their country.

 

[Cubs79]

If protesters threaten people in vehicles, self defense.

Impede the movement of a car on a street or highway by using force or the threat of force

Based on that wording from the Florida bill, it seems as if blocking the street is a valid reason.

 

[UCFloridaTech]

Impede the movement of a car on a street or highway by using force or the threat of force

Based on that wording from the Florida bill, it seems as if blocking the street is a valid reason.

Define force.

Individuals punching in windows, jumping on car hoods is the image I get.

 

[Cubs79]

Define force.

Individuals punching in windows, jumping on car hoods is the image I get.

Impeding a car just means blocking it, obviously the way it is worded there can be some interpretation.

 

[UCFloridaTech]

Impeding a car just means blocking it, obviously the way it is worded there can be some interpretation.

"by using force" ...key component.

 

[Cubs79]

"by using force" ...key component.

But you can argue that blocking a road is a form of force. I mean, I am pretty sure using force to do something to a vehicle was already illegal, so there was no need for a new law for that. It's not like a group of people could surround a car at a stop light and start bashing the windshield before this law.

 

[UCFloridaTech]

But you can argue that blocking a road is a form of force. I mean, I am pretty sure using force to do something to a vehicle was already illegal, so there was no need for a new law for that. It's not like a group of people could surround a car at a stop light and start bashing the windshield before this law.

I suppose you can argue anything.

 

[Crazyhole]

I suppose you can argue anything.

He'll try.

 

[Crazyhole]

Just as expected. This is going to turn into a mess.

 

[Boston.Knight]

 

[Crazyhole]

Fact check: true. Right leaning people enjoy freedom.

 

[UCFKnight85]

So the 89% don't think it works if they are worried about the 11%.

Maybe they aren't really all that worried about it, they just don't want morons shutting down commerce of an entire city and making life miserable for weeks on end? Or blocking entire bridges that just happen to facilitate cross-border commerce?

You guys can't have it both ways. You can't (correctly) denounce BLM and left wing protests when they block highways, disrupt city commerce, destroy property, etc but then turn around and declare these truckers heroes for doing the same thing. Both groups are selfish morons.

 

[UCFKnight85]

I'm against looting, harming innocent people, and burning cities. I'm also against the government forcing people to get vaccinated with a vaccine that doesn't stop the spread.

Well this is Canada, so "the government" isn't applicable to you here.

Regardless of what you think about a law, it's not an excuse to be an asshole and make everyone else miserable. There are small businesses in Ottawa who are losing revenue every day since customers can't get around the assholes with the trucks blocking every road.