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Defund and Abolish Police Forces

No, it’ll be far more fun when you figure out what Crazy walked you into. I will say, you probably should never testify in your own defense if you ever get charged with something.
Ok then, another good talk, thanks for sharing.
 
Yep, you keeping your point a big secret makes me stupid, thanks for the discussion, it's been highly productive.
You’re sure are an angry elf. Read it again when you calm down, it’s clear as day.
 
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BTW, these are the NAACP's demands for reform, which I don't think are outrageous at all:

This federal legislation must include the following principles:

  • A ban on the use of knee holds and chokeholds as an acceptable practice for police officers.
  • The Use of Force Continuum for any police department in the country must ensure that there are at least 6 levels of steps, with clear rules on escalation.
  • Each State’s Open Records Act must ensure officer misconduct information and disciplinary histories are not shielded from the public.
  • Recertification credentials may be denied for police officers if determined that their use of deadly force was unwarranted by federal guidelines.
  • Implementation of Citizen’s Review Boards in municipalities to hold police departments accountable and build public confidence.
 
BTW, these are the NAACP's demands for reform, which I don't think are outrageous at all:

This federal legislation must include the following principles:

  • A ban on the use of knee holds and chokeholds as an acceptable practice for police officers.
  • The Use of Force Continuum for any police department in the country must ensure that there are at least 6 levels of steps, with clear rules on escalation.
  • Each State’s Open Records Act must ensure officer misconduct information and disciplinary histories are not shielded from the public.
  • Recertification credentials may be denied for police officers if determined that their use of deadly force was unwarranted by federal guidelines.
  • Implementation of Citizen’s Review Boards in municipalities to hold police departments accountable and build public confidence.
These are similar to what they agreed to with Chicago after the Laquan McDonald incident. I have some reservations on 3 and 5 but the list seems reasonable.

With 3, it’s easy to see how a press and society that intentionally removes context to paint a narrative can use that information as a weapon when it suits them.

With 5, the board can easily be corrupted in one way or another to either not matter at all or to be an immovable obstacle causing police to cya rather than police. Incidentally, Minneapolis already has a Civilian Police Review Authority in place.
 
These are similar to what they agreed to with Chicago after the Laquan McDonald incident. I have some reservations on 3 and 5 but the list seems reasonable.

With 3, it’s easy to see how a press and society that intentionally removes context to paint a narrative can use that information as a weapon when it suits them.

With 5, the board can easily be corrupted in one way or another to either not matter at all or to be an immovable obstacle causing police to cya rather than police. Incidentally, Minneapolis already has a Civilian Police Review Authority in place.

I thought it was fairly reasonable as well. Much more sane than what other groups have been demanding.
 
http://rsdb.org/slur/knuckle-dragger

For our un-woke posters on this board that like to throw around racial slurs and then act as though they had no idea.
Honestly you have no idea what youre talking about. You cited a wiki style page with contribution needed and no citation or anything. There are no other sources that involve slurs for this term. You skipped past 10 sites that dont mention race to find the one that does. A prime example of confirmation bias.

The fact that you equate an insult based around a pre-evolution ape and immediatly equate it to blacks tells me how your brain works.
 
Honestly you have no idea what youre talking about. You cited a wiki style page with contribution needed and no citation or anything. There are no other sources that involve slurs for this term. You skipped past 10 sites that dont mention race to find the one that does. A prime example of confirmation bias.

The fact that you equate an insult based around a pre-evolution ape and immediatly equate it to blacks tells me how your brain works.
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BTW, these are the NAACP's demands for reform, which I don't think are outrageous at all:

This federal legislation must include the following principles:

  • A ban on the use of knee holds and chokeholds as an acceptable practice for police officers.
  • The Use of Force Continuum for any police department in the country must ensure that there are at least 6 levels of steps, with clear rules on escalation.
  • Each State’s Open Records Act must ensure officer misconduct information and disciplinary histories are not shielded from the public.
  • Recertification credentials may be denied for police officers if determined that their use of deadly force was unwarranted by federal guidelines.
  • Implementation of Citizen’s Review Boards in municipalities to hold police departments accountable and build public confidence.

6 levels of de-escalation sounds great until you realize that a cop will never have time for 6 steps of de-escalation if someone intends to attack them with a weapon or otherwise.
 
Instead of putting in effort to try and understand what BLM want you are opting to just say **** it and believe whatever makes you the angriest.

Take some of the money that goes to police departments and start a department for mental health.

When you get a mental health related call you no longer have to send cops.

Less cops needed means you dont need as much budget.

Better equipped and trained individuals are responding to mental health calls.
6 levels of de-escalation sounds great until you realize that a cop will never have time for 6 steps of de-escalation if someone intends to attack them with a weapon or otherwise.
What about when you have 8 min of silence except for gasping for air while a cop chokes someone out? Maybe they would have time for the 6 levels then?
 
Instead of putting in effort to try and understand what BLM want you are opting to just say **** it and believe whatever makes you the angriest.

Take some of the money that goes to police departments and start a department for mental health.

When you get a mental health related call you no longer have to send cops.

Less cops needed means you dont need as much budget.

Better equipped and trained individuals are responding to mental health calls.

What about when you have 8 min of silence except for gasping for air while a cop chokes someone out? Maybe they would have time for the 6 levels then?

Yes, I was specifically talking about the Floyd killing. That's exactly what I had in mind when I responded, not the thousands of other interactions police have per year with violent lunatics.

This is why no one really ever reads your insanity. It's always just disingenuous manure.
 
Nope. For the same reason I wouldn't call one a honky either. It's a term I reserve exclusively for my right-leaning, knuckle-headed friends here. :p
Well hopefully we can put the idea of the term "thug" being racist to bed as well.
 
So for the record the left wants to defund the police, open up all borders, bail out rioters, shutdown churches, and take away your right to a firearm.

good god trump is going to crush biden
Please add voting without ID to the list.....
 
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I can’t believe defunding the police is even a topic of conversation.

No police = the end of the United States.

Imagine having no police for just 1 football game. It wouldn’t even start.

Wouldn’t get past parking. Lol.

The dumbest idea ever
 
Here’s how the day goes. You wake up in the morning and go to work

Oh wait. You can’t go to work, because as soon as you do, your house gets broken into and gutted.

You own a gun and have an alarm. Does you no good, because you’re at work and there’s no police to come
 
You drive to work as fast as you want and you blow off almost every stop sign and red light

No police to stop you

Everyone else does the same. You get in an accident. You never make it to work. Your car is damaged. You get out and fight the guy who hit you. Hopefully you win and brought your gun, because it’s likely a fight to the death. You can’t get your car fixed, because there isn’t a police report and you just killed the guy (if you’re lucky) who hit your car. Who’s fault was it? Who cares. Lol

A modern day Wild West.
 
We are so woke that the dumbest ideas you better agree with or else. Who exactly do you call for a robbery, car accident, etc? If no police you can't commit a crime so we don't need judges. Let the mob decide I guess
Mobs and gangs rule America. The ones with the best weapons or part of the strongest mob or gang survive

It’s a lawless society and civilization as we know it goes back to the Stone Age within months? Noooooooooooo. Weeks.

Millions of refugees try to flee the country into Mexico and Canada.

If we are LUCKY, another country takes us over

Stiil want to dEfUnD tHe pOlIcE?

Good luck with that. The dumbest proposal in the history of recent memory
 
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Many of the police forces in America are already underfunded. The solution lies in augmenting police forces with other capabilities. If you think police officers aren’t equipped to deal with mental health calls, then find permanent mental health positions that go out with police whenever there is a mental health call to handle the situation. One officer, one mental health worker.

Similarly, you fund a number of deescalation specialists to work with the on-duty squads and show up to those calls.

You’d think that would appeal to the big government types.
 
Many of the police forces in America are already underfunded. The solution lies in augmenting police forces with other capabilities. If you think police officers aren’t equipped to deal with mental health calls, then find permanent mental health positions that go out with police whenever there is a mental health call to handle the situation. One officer, one mental health worker.

Similarly, you fund a number of deescalation specialists to work with the on-duty squads and show up to those calls.

You’d think that would appeal to the big government types.

Crime ridden minority communities need more cops. Way, way more cops. Not less. This entire campaign is entirely counter to what they want, which are safer and more vibrant minority communities that are not plagued by crime.
 
Crime ridden minority communities need more cops. Way, way more cops. Not less. This entire campaign is entirely counter to what they want, which are safer and more vibrant minority communities that are not plagued by crime.

You are a literal goddamn moron.
 
Crime ridden minority communities need more cops. Way, way more cops. Not less. This entire campaign is entirely counter to what they want, which are safer and more vibrant minority communities that are not plagued by crime.

What they need are fewer thugs, not more cops.
 
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