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I’ve used it multiple times to Lauderdale and Miami. It’s decent. In October I was on it and it hit a pedestrian. Train was grounded and took 90 minutes to get a new train to board. It hits someone every month. People are either dumb or committing suicide
If this was 2 years ago, I would agree with you. With 4 more teams joining next year, the Conference is only improving. Currently, the only thing lacking in the Conference are flagship teams as Texas and Oklahoma are gone after this year. Outside of FSU and Clemson, there is little brand recognition for football. The difference between the ACC and Big12 is that teams are not actively trying to leave the Big 12.
Why do you think those 'flagship' teams are leaving? We're moving away from the old P5 days to a new P2 World with the B1G and SEC.
the Pac additions make it better than a broken up ACC. Also the football fanbases are better and basketball speaks for itself
And Yormack getting the tv deal locked in answers this question . with another commissioner maybe things don’t turn out so good for UCF and the Big12
For real. They have the big tv dollars only because of alumni and ratings. That shouldn’t define best teams, because they aren’t, not by a long shot.
Now the idiots are saying they forced Sabin into retirement (5 pg thread), along with Bobby Bowden years ago
Most idiotic fanbase EVER
Most idiotic fanbase EVER
Of course it's about them. You can't change stupid. BULLSPEEDAHEAD!
so the implication is that their program is so lowly regarded that being in a close game with them means it's time to hang it up. georgia southern rushed for over 300 yards against them some years back and saban was so embarrassed by it that he talked about it all the time as a warning to his players about what happens when you don't take an opponent seriously. that embarrassment didn't drive him to retirement, but being in a close game against USF did.
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The document also provides a better peek at how much it cost for the Bulls to fire Scott and his staff. USF reported just under $2.2 million in football severance payments for coaches and administrators. Scott’s full buyout is unknown because deals with the school’s fundraising arm, the USF Foundation, are not public. The Bulls also reported $478,000 in severance payments for men’s basketball; they fired coach Brian Gregory in March.
The school posted a $135,000 deficit — $70.6 million in operating revenue against $70.7 million in operating expenses.
The document also provides a better peek at how much it cost for the Bulls to fire Scott and his staff. USF reported just under $2.2 million in football severance payments for coaches and administrators. Scott’s full buyout is unknown because deals with the school’s fundraising arm, the USF Foundation, are not public. The Bulls also reported $478,000 in severance payments for men’s basketball; they fired coach Brian Gregory in March.
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The school posted a $135,000 deficit — $70.6 million in operating revenue against $70.7 million in operating expenses.
Who is going to lend them 200 million when they lost 135,000 in one year? Where is the income?
"The Bulls receive state authorization to borrow up to $200 million for the 35,000-seat stadium."
Yeah, their broke asses wouldn’t pass for credit with my company.
“Athletic debt rose from $28.8 million to $32.7 million. That’s notable as the Bulls pursue a $340 million on-campus football stadium that includes up to $200 million in debt.
USF’s athletic annual debt service increased slightly to $2.6 million in the latest report.”
“Athletic debt rose from $28.8 million to $32.7 million. That’s notable as the Bulls pursue a $340 million on-campus football stadium that includes up to $200 million in debt.
USF’s athletic annual debt service increased slightly to $2.6 million in the latest report.”
From googlin’…now that’s some fuzzy math…
The estimated cost for a new stadium is $340 million. The approval by the board authorizes the USF Financing Corp. to issue a debt of $200 million that the university will repay from several sources, including operating revenues from the stadium and other revenues generated by USF Athletics. In the plan provided to the board, USF also identified the funding sources that will be used to support the other $140 million on the project: Cash advances on future capital gifts ($50 million); Capital Improvement Trust Fund ($31 million); auxiliary funds and proceeds from a 2017 FCC auction ($34 million); and contingent cash contribution from the sale of educational broadband service licenses ($25 million-$40 million).
The estimated cost for a new stadium is $340 million. The approval by the board authorizes the USF Financing Corp. to issue a debt of $200 million that the university will repay from several sources, including operating revenues from the stadium and other revenues generated by USF Athletics. In the plan provided to the board, USF also identified the funding sources that will be used to support the other $140 million on the project: Cash advances on future capital gifts ($50 million); Capital Improvement Trust Fund ($31 million); auxiliary funds and proceeds from a 2017 FCC auction ($34 million); and contingent cash contribution from the sale of educational broadband service licenses ($25 million-$40 million).
They will pay for everything with their AAU status.
Actually their AAU status cost them more money...
"As of 2022 annual dues are $139,500"
"As of 2022 annual dues are $139,500"
Honestly, that is not too bad. UCF was running at a loss for several years prior to getting the stadium. If they could keep a coach around that would turn around the team, engage fans, and get support from the community, they would be in a great position. However, they need to find a George O'Leary type of coach that wants to stay and make that happen. Even in GOL's bad years, we had a team that wasn't blown out on the field every week, the fans came out, and the community rallied around the home town team. I don't know if their current coach will stay or if he is looking for a greener pasture.
The first year we went 0-12 we still had 15-20K in the seats. We were competitive in each of the games and we were blown out. The only games that we were destroyed in were West Virginia, Wisconsin, and Penn State and they were all ranked teams. We may have lost one other game but it was in the 4th quarter the score looks bad but the game was competitive for ~45 minutes. The fact that when UCF beat Marshall in 2005 after some 20 consecutive losses, we had fans that stormed the field and took down the goal posts. We still hold the CUSA record for fans in attendance at a CCG and at Conference Games as we had 53k+ in the old Tangerine Bowl.
Even when we had our bad seasons, we were not in the same pit as USF. We haven't been in the position of 4-5 years where we won only 4 games. At that point, HS kids and college kids just look at the program like it is a joke. For USF's program, the fact that they only lost ~$150K doesn't put them in that bad of a position. I'm assuming they are at or near rock bottom last year and that this year they should start seeing their athletics turning around because they had tremendous success on the field because they won a bowl game. They still have a lot of work to do, but for their team to be invited to the next level, they need to be firing on all cylinders for more than 1-2 years.
Hopefully that is the level they will be playing soon
Yeah but they couldn’t make those playoffs either
According to Twitter they already have the OCS built and have been awarded the contract LOL
Honestly how much $$ could it be?
Well they were mentioned as a potential 2024 CFP participant earlier. Win this bid, they are guaranteed a national championship game appearance.
Submitted a bid to host the game in their very real super duper stadium that will definitely kinda maybe sorta exist.
Maybe they did it because they plan on dropping down to FCS.
Booking gigs in advance. Bold strategy Cotton, let's see if it pays off...
Just to be the one pointing out the non-joke.... what if this is an attempt to get taxpayer $$$ to pay for their gold toliet stadium? UCF should do the same, maybe that and the Hula Bowl would get us free money for additions. AND if that works, let's put in for the....... Bed Racing championship, the bottle kicking championship, the extreme ironing championship, the haggis hurling championship, the worm charming championship, the unicycle football championship, and the toe wrestling championship. (all are real, just listen to a fun BBC radio show of Unbelievable Truths.) PS bottle kicking involved a keg so is probably the best sport ever.
Is this a joke? I hope it isn’t, it’d be the most usf thing ever. Will lose money hosting that game hahaha.
Kelly is a clown and continues to demonstrate why that school to the west is bush and desperate for inclusion. This is a feeble attempt to solicit future revenue and sway the argument that building this dumb stadium is a good idea. I’d LOL if Raymond James submits an offer to host. This provides much less risk because the stadium actually exists, an NFL caliber stadium w/many amenities, and holds more people and parking options. Nobody wants to go to that silly school to watch a football game.
My nephew goes to USiF and noted many of the students are pissed about investing in a stadium when they don’t have working elevators in the buildings. He even jokes about how abysmal their athletics are and what little interest resonates w/the student body. He is also considering transferring to UCF if funding is available as they gave him a bunch of scholarship money to go to school there which can be hard to give up. As a commuter student, he goes on-site for classes and spends as little time on campus as possible. More to come.
My nephew goes to USiF and noted many of the students are pissed about investing in a stadium when they don’t have working elevators in the buildings. He even jokes about how abysmal their athletics are and what little interest resonates w/the student body. He is also considering transferring to UCF if funding is available as they gave him a bunch of scholarship money to go to school there which can be hard to give up. As a commuter student, he goes on-site for classes and spends as little time on campus as possible. More to come.
what they would have going for them is that they want the FCS final in a smaller venue. raymond james would be too big.
The average announced attendance at the FCS championship games has been around 19k. Which means probably more like 12-15k. Tickets start at $150. The average expenses of the venue are $450k, so say $500k. Ticket sales probably around $2m. Dont know what they would have to pay to get the bid, but there is some money there.
Nothing like Home Field Advantage...wish them luck in their Div I-AA Championship desires.
from word of mouth I heard they have improved amenities on campus some (trying to copy the ucf model) but I still haven’t heard that it has changed much when it comes to the culture and environment On Campus. stale campus layout and area for college students. UCF feels so much more alive and bustling in comparison
Not sure why their bid would be accepted when the stadium doesn't even exist. U of SW Tampa hasn't even shown they can effectively host one of their own games, much less a championship game of any sort. I would think the winning venue would have to show a record of pulling off several games without any problems.
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