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ESPN Mike and Mike: Why Cant UCF get a Chance?
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If UCF wins out there is going to be a lot of talk and maybe finally a push for change
So AAC refs if you are reading this it is in the Conference's interest to have UCF finish the Regular Season undefeated
So AAC refs if you are reading this it is in the Conference's interest to have UCF finish the Regular Season undefeated
And they might as well help us beat Memphis again in the CCG
You'd first have to explain to the refs what a hold is, so they will call it. They just stand around like,"Hey look, UCONN's offensive line is tackling the defensive end. Football is fun."
He even says he compared the Wisconsin schedule side by side and said it doesn't matter, Wisconsins schedule is just tougher. The definition of bias
Yeah the refs haven't given UCF Flagship of the Conference treatment, the Navy game comes to mind as well
You would think that the talking heads at ESPN would have learned their lesson in 2013? And they aren't crapping on us to be provocative. They really believe this stuff.
That's BS. UCF has played a harder schedule than Wisconsin.
He doesn't care what the numbers say, Wisconsin's schedule is just tougher because of names like Nebraska and Minnesota.
You can have a debate whether Wisconsin's schedule is tougher than UCF's, but it's undeniably pretty close and both are undefeated. They should be somewhere near each other in the rankings, not 10 spots away.
Until this past week, UCF and Wisconsin had about the same SoS. But now that's no longer true, Wisconsin has had a tougher schedule, although not by that much.
I'd love for this to be true, but it just isn't the case. THIS UCF team's SOS and OOC schedule just isn't very good. That Houston team from a year or so ago would have probably made a better case by beating OU and going undefeated, but they couldn't pull it off.
I'm not saying we don't deserve to be in the convo for the CFP and that it needs to expand. I'm saying the P% douche bags and media pundits will hold our schedule against us as to why the CFP is fine the way it is.
I didn't say UCF would get in just that it will turn into a conversation which is a good thing long term
At least he openly admitted that it takes the act of celestial perfection for us to get into the playoff. Wonder what God is doing? Think he can do us a solid?
Yes, clearly because those G5 teams are so tough, and that FCS school Austin Peay or wtf ever it is called (doesnt even have a site on ESPN). it also doesnt help when you cancel a game and dont bother rescheduling it or at least someone else. Try playing only p5 opponents who arent traditional bottom dwellers like Maryland, for your ooc. You play Wisconsin, K-State, Auburn for your ooc win out and win your ccg and you have a much better chance of making the CFP. Perception is reality.
Hate admitting it, but this post is accurate. That GT hurts, and we subbed it for Austin Peay... What doesn't help is that these P5 schools won't even play us!
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Do you understand that scheduling ooc games requires agreement from two schools from different conferences? Did you know that a large portion of P5 schools will NOT play G5 schools at G5 stadium? Often times, the best the G5 can get is "2 for 1". Home-and-home is getting rare. This is why we call P5 a cartel.
Do you think UCF does not want to play UF on campus at UCF?
You have to make sacrifices, dont demand they play home and home make them pay you to come to them for both games, like most p5 programs do for g5. You cant act too big for your britches, you start doing that and winning and then you discuss home and homes. become a perceived quality opponent first then act like one. UCF keeps trying to put the cart before the horse, with attendance and respect. Go after upper middle tier p5 programs for OOC whoever it may be start making waves like that. There is absolutely nothing that can be done instantly, especially since Most p5 programs have their OOC scheduled out for 5-6 or more years already, i know we do. You have to start somewhere and stop making excuses. Be the squeaky wheels in your AD's ear when it comes to scheduling P5 opponents that actually are above .500 traditionally. Its not a dig on UCF but you really have to crawl before you walk before you run.
You clearly have no clue what you are talking about. UCF schedule 2 P5s a year.
You missed the point then. GT is 5-4 right now, had you played them and won they would be 5-5 right now. Maryland is 4-6. Play 3 OOC against traditionally above .500 P5 schools.
Furthermore if the whole AAC would mandate something similar of all its schools, and actually succeed, it would increase perception of the conference as a whole, that would be the key to making it into the "p5" circle without having to have conference realignment. How many wins does the AAC have over P5 opponents who are above .500 right now?
WTF do you think UCF football has been doing for the last 40 years? How long are we supposed to "crawl"... When we already have a BCS bowl victory and a Top Ten final ranking?
It was 20 years ago UCF went to Lincoln, Culpepper versus Frost.
A BCS bowl victory and A top ten final ranking is a flash in the pan. Perception is reality. Consistency is key. Who you beat how you beat them and what their standings are matter just as much as what conference they are in. It is what it is.
You're an idiot. Good P5 schools will not play us. They have everything to lose and nothing to gain. They occasionally play us at their house, but they won't go on the road. Clearly you don't follow football.
Read above moron, already said that you cant demand home and homes, you get paid to go play a p5 already stated this. Congratulations on failing 1st grade reading.
"Perception is Reality":
For example, Minnesota has done nothing in my lifetime (45). Minnesota is irrelevant.
At what point do we formally declare Nebraska to be irrelevant? Present recruits know nothing of Nebraska's (historic) "power" unless they get shown VHS tapes which have been copied on to DVD or YouTube.
For example, Minnesota has done nothing in my lifetime (45). Minnesota is irrelevant.
At what point do we formally declare Nebraska to be irrelevant? Present recruits know nothing of Nebraska's (historic) "power" unless they get shown VHS tapes which have been copied on to DVD or YouTube.
It still took Nebraska 90 years to win a national title during the days when it was legal to have 150 players on the roster. Thats ok it took the Gators 90 years to win a title too.
Programs like FSU and Miami are the ones the new programs should look to before the system got rigged. It took 46 years for FSU to win the national title. Miami first 50 years resulted in nine bowl appearances. I think we caught up with them in a fraction of the time lol. They thought about dropping their program and yet five years later beats Nebraska to claim their first title - which took less than 60 years.
I assume all three programs were FBS since its inception and we werent so since our FBS start in 1995, we've been in 8 bowls and finished in the Top 25 twice...not bad for 22 years. We still have time to win our first national title. Were the youngest program to play in the NY6 bowls and this isnt some bowl thats played in front of blue bloods drinking tea in the early 20th century either. It took your program 90 years to win the national title. Why are you bragging?**
Northern Ilinois, Ark St and Oregon
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Maryland, Georgia Tech, Maine
Those were scheduled OOC games for UCF and Nebraska. Sorry a natural disaster threw us off track. What was your excuse? The grind of Illinois and Rutgers in back-to-back weeks? Or was i the power houses of Purdue, Northwestern and Minnesota?
Also, the offenses of the AAC are just as hard if not harder to defend against than most Big 10 schools and Big 12 schools.
Right now the reality is we have the worst coach we have had since 1961. This next hire might be our last chance to become relevant again it has been 15 years since we took a major down turn. I have confidence in the current AD to right the ship and make the right hire. If this keeps up for 10 more years i will officially declare Nebraska to be on the same level as Minnesota. There is no denying that. The point you miss is you have to have a history of doing these things to become a power. 1 and done doesnt mean squat look at boise st.
You can't even understand basic football scheduling and finances. We can't keep playing all of these teams on the road. Additionally, some won't even play us at their house at all, let alone a 2 for 1.
Additionally, we have to fill a home schedule as well and any half decent team coming to UCF wants a 1 and 1 as well
Boy.., you are stupid. Are you mentally retarded?
Quite well, thank you for your concern. Can you handle fractions? Are you aware that (unless/until Fleck resurrects Minny) only Wisconsin and Iowa have any respect in the B1G West? Northwestern is okay, Illinois sucks, Purdue sucks, Minnesota sucks, Nebraska fired coaches who keep them "okay" and now Nebraska sucks.
Perception is reality. Capisce?
I (and many on this board) grew up with the *ascent* of Miami, Florida State, and Florida. Are you aware how pathetic UF was prior to Spurrier, FSU/Bowden, and Miami/Schnellenberger? With immense historic suckage, UF still had "power". It was an uphill battle for UM and FSU... But not as steep as what UCF has to fight now.
For some reason, all that trash in the B1G West still has "power", yet it has been decades/eternity since they accomplished anything of note.
It is amazing that as soon as one of these pecker heads shows up the thread goes completely off in another direction. Trolls GTF off our board!!!! Any way to get these assholes banned???
There should be plenty of controversy amongst the top ten to start a push to go 8 teams
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Yep, beauty pageant.
Losses don't even matter anymore. They should have a penalty system for losses...ANY losses. Get 2 losses and the team should not be allowed in top 25. That should be a rule.
Losses don't even matter anymore. They should have a penalty system for losses...ANY losses. Get 2 losses and the team should not be allowed in top 25. That should be a rule.
