It's like saying that bats in Nashville caused an outbreak in Orlando, but nobody in Nashville caught it.
Fauci now admits what the rest of us knew
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I didn’t realize there weren’t bats in Wuhan or that an actual animal host was identified as the source.
It’s absolutely the MOST plausible theory at this point.
The WSJ reported yesterday that 3 Wuhan lab researchers were hospitalized with symptoms consistent with Covid-19 in November of 2019.
Meanwhile despite an exhaustive search they haven’t been able to find any proof of an animal host, even though with MERS and SARS they had found the animal host by this point.
To play devils advocate a bit, aren’t symptoms of Covid-19 similar to those of the flu? Also how many employees at the lab? It definitely is curious if what you say is true. It’s interesting that we would even know this since China hasn’t accurately reported anything.
I know you're being facetious, which is fine. I worry that there are actually people out there that truly believe what you are saying.
I’m sure it’s all just a big coincidence. They’ll find that animal any day now. Also, it totally didn’t escape from a Chinese lab. And there have been less than 5000 deaths from Covid in China.
The only report I trust out of China is 3 lab workers with flu/Covid symptoms in November*
I mean, technically a bio agent is a WMD so.... I guess that doesn’t help either way.
You didnt know anything, you were just speculating. I think many people thought it was a possibility, but you that doesnt mean they 'knew' that was the case.
That doesnt mean you "knew it". Sorry, but expecting us all to believe that people who arent epidemiologist, or virologists, or something along those knew everything all along is quite a stretch. People with no credentials speculated, and maybe they were right, but that is a far cry from saying they "knew" it. Of course a lot of these same people "know" lots of stuff that doesnt end up being true.
Because they completely shut down the city, where as we had a good portion of people in our society who didnt even believe it was real and complained about even the most basic of precautions. We also dont really know the real #s from China.
Looking at their trend lines on world-o-meters is hilarious. They had one day with a massive number of reported cases and then the next day it went down to almost nothing.
Lord Jesus, it was a miracle!!!!!!
And I still know people who think that their methods solved this shit overnight.
Wuhan was on complete lockdown for 76 days, I would hardly consider that immediate.
Oh, so everyone survived on only what they had in their homes for more than 2 months?
No. You could get food delivered and go to the grocery store, but they had much tighter restrictions on it, like you could only leave your house once every 3 days and things of that nature.
And Covid completely respected food delivery people, grocery workers, and the fact you hadn’t left your house in 3 days?
It’s cute that you’re buying China’s “success” in handling Covid with such drastic measures. If you are under the impression they succeeded in doing anything other than hiding the number of cases and deaths in their country, you’re a fool. For a nation of 1.4 billion people to not have a single 1000 reported case day since February 2020 is pure fiction. It’s not even worth discussing as a possibility.
To believe the Chinese numbers is to fully embrace your clown makeup. Do you really believe them when they tell you that on March 15, 2020 they had just 16 new cases for a 7 day average of 18 new cases?
I already said that we likely dont know the real #s from China, so not sure whose posts you are reading, but they arent mine.
Interesting theory:
The reason Fauci was pretty nonchalant about the virus in the beginning was because he was relying on information he was being fed from China and the WHO which said this was a naturally occurring virus. Then when he figured out that this may actually be a synthetically created virus that came from Gain of Function testing, he had an "oh shit" moment, and that's when masks, social distancing, and lockdowns became a necessity. He realized that we have to rely on our own data because the CCP was lying to us.
The reason Fauci was pretty nonchalant about the virus in the beginning was because he was relying on information he was being fed from China and the WHO which said this was a naturally occurring virus. Then when he figured out that this may actually be a synthetically created virus that came from Gain of Function testing, he had an "oh shit" moment, and that's when masks, social distancing, and lockdowns became a necessity. He realized that we have to rely on our own data because the CCP was lying to us.
I totally disagree with your notion "People who were going to vote for trump weren’t changing their mind to Biden". Trump did not handle the press part of the virus response well. I think in general he handled the administrative side as best he possibly could, but no country has solved how to respond to this with a very very small exception (South Korea, Australia).
You also don't take into account that country over those last 9 months of Trump's presidency was totally charged and every small thing was setting off massive echo chambers of tv and news media coverage. People were not working. People had a lot of time on their hands. People were upset in general. Then you had the unfortunate killing of George Floyd which turned the volume on everything to 1000. None of this was Trump's fault, however was covered as if it was. There were people that if the elections were held on March 2020 and not November 2020 would have voted for trump.
Also, lets not get into the fact that BECAUSE of COVID there was more mail in balloting than ever in this country. I'm not going down the fraud route, but moreso the route that this country has never been more liberal than it is today. Republicans in general hope that a majority of the population just won't turn out, because in general Republicans turn out at a better percentage than democrats. Mass mail in voting made it far easier for Biden to win, which would never of happened if it wasn't for COVID.
We know the country leans more Democratic. It has been that way for a while. It’s why there has only been one Republican candidate to receive more votes in the presidential election since the 80s (an incumbent double wartime president). Unfortunately for Republicans I don’t see mail in balloting going away or even decreasing in usage for the most part. It will be an uphill battle, but hopefully running a candidate who isn’t a reality TV star can pull a bit of that base back. A safer (Bidenesqe) candidate like Kasich is probably needed to get us back to reality from the fallout of the 2 worst presidential candidates in history running in 2016.
The problem they have is that a candidate like that, wont appeal to Trump supporters. They have created a situation where Trump is almost the end all/be all of the Republican party at this point and the more reasonable/moderate Republicans are now considered RINOs. I am not saying they have no chance to win in 2024, especially with the new voting laws, but it is going to be tough. NO matter who they nominate, Trump or a Trump like candidate, or a more moderate Republican, a significant portion of the base is going to be turned off either way.
Lol, thanks for the Kasich advice.
“If only someone who endorsed Joe Biden would get the Republican nomination, things would be better.”
I think its possible he wins the primary, but I think he would have trouble in the general election because he comes across too Trumpish. I also think it is going to be interesting to see how Trump responds when other candidates jump in. I dont think he is going be all to pleased when the party, and the news, starts shifting to another Republican.
DeSantis doesn't go full-bore Trumpism, it seems like he is calculating the right blend of Gingrich and Trump. Trump was way too aggressive, Gingrich picked his battles but pandered too much. Get somewhere in between those at you've got a winner.
I think his personality just comes across being similar. The machismo, constantly blaming the media for things, etc etc. I think that stuff eventually turned people off from Trump. He is smarter than Trump, but I still think he comes across as an asshole. Plus, If Trump doesnt run, (which my gut feeling is he isnt going to run, but will tease it as long as he can), I am not sure how he is going to respond to not being the center of the Republican universe anymore, and I could see he and Desantis having issues. I could be wrong, but the next Republican primary is going to be batshit crazy I have a feeling.
I dont see it. 2024 is a long ways off so things can change, but I dont think Desantis is going to be that appealing to people outside of the Trump base.
Can Desantis whip a crowd into a frenzy? That will be the deciding factor. Because someone is going to follow up the Trump act to try and win his base. Remember sweaty Marco and low energy Jeb were thought to be good popular Florida options in 2016 and they withered once the bright lights were on.
Can Desantis whip a crowd into a frenzy? That will be the deciding factor. Because someone is going to follow up the Trump act to try and win his base. Remember sweaty Marco and low energy Jeb were thought to be good popular Florida options in 2016 and they withered once the bright lights were on.
Thats the other thing, nobody is going to be able to generate the type of cult like fandom that Trump did. So with someone like Desantis, I think he has that asshole type of personality, with no where near the charisma.
I'm not part of the Trump base and didn't vote for him, but at this moment in time I would enthusiastically vote for DeSantis. He just comes across as a no BS, Common sense kind of guy that doesn't go on offense unless it seems necessary. I may be wrong, but I think that would resonate both with the Trumpists and the establishment of the GOP. As far as the general election goes, there is way too much that can happen between now and then to even speculate.
I really don’t think you’re in touch with most of America. There’s plenty to criticize Trump on, but if you think people were turned off by his “machismo” or getting into it with a very unpopular media, you’re out of your mind.
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