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Any sheep want to reiterate their earlier claims that these vaccines are perfectly safe again? You got the jab without all of the information and attacked those who didn't follow you into the corrals.
 


Any sheep want to reiterate their earlier claims that these vaccines are perfectly safe again? You got the jab without all of the information and attacked those who didn't follow you into the corrals.
Yes, they are extremely safe. This is rare. You are still a stupid dildo if you don't take one. Now go back to postulating about whether or not we can have 145th trimester abortions because you're so cool, and stuff.
 
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Yes, they are extremely safe. This is rare. You are still a stupid dildo if you don't take one. Now go back to postulating about whether or not we can have 145th trimester abortions because you're so cool, and stuff.
Uh, did you watch the Fauci video above?
 
If I was under 40 years old, and had no other issues, I would not take one. They have no idea what long term effects these vaccines may have. There is another that will hit the market in the next month or 2 that is more of an Old fashion vaccine, that hopefully won't cause blood clots, nor an enlarged heart. There is no way they should be twisting arms to get these out.
 
You don't know what is rare at this point with any long term impacts. Hence why it is emergency use. That is why I don't like the antivax label mixed into this particular new vaccine. Why would you risk the vaccine if you're under 30? Nothing wrong with waiting.
Yes, we do know what is rare. Perfectly fine. You people waste more time with this.
 
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Yes, they are extremely safe. This is rare. You are still a stupid dildo if you don't take one. Now go back to postulating about whether or not we can have 145th trimester abortions because you're so cool, and stuff.
But just as common as SARS-CoV-2 effects with kids, which is orders of magnitude less than adults. That's the thing. We're now looking at a comparative ratio, unlike adults, let alone the elderly.

You guys need to stop with the 'Time Machine from the future' BS. We have approval procedures that take time for a reason! We honestly don't know jack about long-term.
 
Not even close to a waste of time having this discussion. The vaccine could be perfectly safe short and long term. We don't know yet. I wish covid wasn't always political to get real information. Fauci clearly was saying different things behind the scenes vs publicly. We can't even have real answers about the origins of covid-19. On one hand the government is pushing you to get the vaccine and on the other had not gettimg the fda approval.
Joe is probably one of those people that still deny that Vioxx had any side effects because big-pharma told him it was perfectly safe.
 
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If I was under 40 years old, and had no other issues, I would not take one. They have no idea what long term effects these vaccines may have. There is another that will hit the market in the next month or 2 that is more of an Old fashion vaccine, that hopefully won't cause blood clots, nor an enlarged heart. There is no way they should be twisting arms to get these out.
I may get the Novavax when it comes out. I'll leave the experimental proof of concept testing to the sheep.
 
Not even close to a waste of time having this discussion. The vaccine could be perfectly safe short and long term. We don't know yet. I wish covid wasn't always political to get real information. Fauci clearly was saying different things behind the scenes vs publicly. We can't even have real answers about the origins of covid-19. On one hand the government is pushing you to get the vaccine and on the other had not gettimg the fda approval.
Waste. Of. Time. and your usual host of straw men to boot.
 
I may get the Novavax when it comes out. I'll leave the experimental proof of concept testing to the sheep.
I hope it reaches full approval by the time my J&J Ad26 hits 2 years. If so, I'll likely opt for it. AD type, let alone mRNA, need another 10-20 years or maturity.

In any case, we'll know 20x by then than we do now. You will never get the 'fortune tellers' to admit that either. Maybe AD and even mRNA end up being fine.

But no one likes to talk about the issues with the influenza mRNA attempt for a reason. And even the Truvada AD type has its critics.
 
Waste. Of. Time. and your usual host of straw men to boot.
Everyone stating the vaccines are safe long-term are pulling 100% BS out of their own rectum.

It is not a 'straw man' argument to point that out. It's 100% factual and truth. We just don't know jack.
 
Everyone stating the vaccines are safe long-term are pulling 100% BS out of their own rectum.

It is not a 'straw man' argument to point that out. It's 100% factual and truth. We just don't know jack.
That's not what I was referring to with knighttime. This one of those many moments where you stick your nose in to try to fit in and come out looking even more nutty than you usually do. So, MYOB.
 
That's not what I was referring to with knighttime. This one of those many moments where you stick your nose in to try to fit in and come out looking even more nutty than you usually do. So, MYOB.
Ad hom. And a pretty weak one for you.
 
That's not what I was referring to with knighttime. This one of those many moments where you stick your nose in to try to fit in and come out looking even more nutty than you usually do. So, MYOB.
Men under 25 should seriously consider waiting for approval and IGNORING all the endless loads of BS coming from people that say vaccines are 100% safe and 100% effective and 100% stop the spread.

It's more like Unknown Long-Term, 60-70/95-96 AD/mRNA (60/88 for Delta variant) and No, respectively.


Over in the UK they are pushing vaccination on kids now, even though none of them have died from the Delta variant (all have been 50+), and there's no proof they are falling ill. They are just spreading it and, again, there is no proof vaccination stops the spread.

In fact, WHO is back to saying everyone spreads it anyway, it's really a symptomatic v. asymptomatic detail, and everyone should mask up to reduce the distance of ejection.

Which is exactly what people like me have been saying for since spring 2020 about all Coronaviruses. Everyone needs to end the BS about any effective immunity being possible anytime soon at this point.

We were all lied to because people 'hope' instead of actually listening to the REAL SCIENCE that plenty of statisticians, virologists and people actually studying Coronaviruses for the past 15 years have been saying.

The vaccines are largely for reducing death to those 45+. That's it. That's honestly it. That's the only given we have today.
 
Men under 25 should seriously consider waiting for approval and IGNORING all the endless loads of BS coming from people that they are 100% safe and 100% effective and 100% stop the spread.

Over in the UK they are pushing vaccination on kids now, even though none of them have died from the Delta variant (all have been 50+), and there's no proof they are falling ill. They are just spreading it and, again, there is no proof vaccination stops the spread.

In fact, WHO is back to saying everyone spreads it anyway, it's really a symptomatic v. asymptomatic detail, and everyone should mask up to reduce the distance of ejection.

Which is exactly what people like me have been saying for since spring 2020 about all Coronaviruses. Everyone needs to end the BS about any effective immunity being possible anytime soon at this point.

We were all lied to because people 'hope' instead of actually listening to the REAL SCIENCE that plenty of statisticians, virologists and people actually studying Coronaviruses for the past 15 years have been saying.

The vaccines are largely for reducing death to those 45+. That's it. That's honestly it. That's the only given we have today.
Didn’t read. Waste. Of. My. Time.

You should know this by now.
 
Didn’t read. Waste. Of. My. Time.

You should know this by now.
And yet, how often have I been correct?

Vaccinated people are still dying.
Vaccinated people are still spreading.

We well crossed the alleged, 'effective immunity' assumption before the Delta variant arrived and... guess what?! No change in spread.

BOOM!!!
 
Just had my yearly physical and calcium scoring. Couldn’t be better. You’re not very good at this.
Here lies Joe. A man in perfect health with an impeccable calcium score, taken from this world too early because Moderna needed to make a buck.

Let us read a passage from the Covidian Bible, 2 Fauci: 3-11.

"We have to get the shot to find out what's in the shot".

Amen.
 
I've grown incredibly weary of the BS double-talk coming out of the COVID-19 denier/anti-vax crowd.

First COVID-19 was "just the sniffles" while hospitals all over the country were filled with patients and half a million Americans died of it. They said that given "the overall survival rates," we just needed to 'man up' and die if need be in order to protect our economy.

But after we had vaccines available that would protect us from death or hospitalization if we caught the virus and help our nation achieve herd immunity if most everybody got a shot, the same 'man up' crowd who wanted our economy back open full steam SUDDENLY DECIDED we should avoid a vaccine that will accomplish this very thing. What's wrong with this picture?

So everything now is fine and dandy -- until one of COVID-19's aggressive variants raises its ugly head this next winter. Mark my words: the same posters here will be whining, "See? the vaccines didn't wipe the virus out after all." :rolleyes:
 
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I've grown incredibly weary of the BS double-talk coming out of the COVID-19 denier/anti-vax crowd.

First COVID-19 was "just the sniffles" while hospitals all over the country were filled with patients and half a million Americans died of it. They said that given "the overall survival rates," we just needed to 'man up' and die if need be in order to protect our economy.

But after we had vaccines available that would protect us from death or hospitalization if we caught the virus and help our nation achieve herd immunity if most everybody got a shot, the same 'man up' crowd who wanted our economy back open full steam SUDDENLY DECIDED we should avoid a vaccine that will accomplish this very thing. What's wrong with this picture?

So everything now is fine and dandy -- until one of COVID-19's aggressive variants raises its ugly head this winter. Mark my words: the same posters here will be whining, "See? the vaccines didn't wipe the virus out after all." :rolleyes:
You forgot where they blamed Biden for not getting enough MAGAts vaccinated.
 
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Here lies Joe. A man in perfect health with an impeccable calcium score, taken from this world too early because Moderna needed to make a buck.

Let us read a passage from the Covidian Bible, 2 Fauci: 3-11.

"We have to get the shot to find out what's in the shot".

Amen.
Weak. 2/10
 
How do you explain Georgia that supposedly voted Biden and Florida for Trump?

Florida is almost 10% higher in vaccinations if you're trying to make everything political. 🤔
Easy and common sense explanation. Florida population is older. MAGAts don’t get vaccinated. They live in every state.
 
Speaking of dementia man, Biden said we would have 70% vaccinated by July 4th. Another failure in leadership;)
Hilarious.

Knighttime, ucfbs, and crazy: Biden’s a failure.

Also from these three geniuses: do not under any circumstance get the vaccine.

You can’t make this shit up.
 
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I've grown incredibly weary of the BS double-talk coming out of the COVID-19 denier/anti-vax crowd.

First COVID-19 was "just the sniffles" while hospitals all over the country were filled with patients and half a million Americans died of it. They said that given "the overall survival rates," we just needed to 'man up' and die if need be in order to protect our economy.

But after we had vaccines available that would protect us from death or hospitalization if we caught the virus and help our nation achieve herd immunity if most everybody got a shot, the same 'man up' crowd who wanted our economy back open full steam SUDDENLY DECIDED we should avoid a vaccine that will accomplish this very thing. What's wrong with this picture?

So everything now is fine and dandy -- until one of COVID-19's aggressive variants raises its ugly head this next winter. Mark my words: the same posters here will be whining, "See? the vaccines didn't wipe the virus out after all." :rolleyes:
Can I write your eulogy?
 
Knighttime, ucfbs, and crazy: Biden’s a failure.
^^^ I never said this!!!

In fact, I said I did NOT blame Biden for 70% at all.
I said it had NOTHING to do with Biden.

Also from these three geniuses: do not under any circumstance get the vaccine.
^^^ 100% LIE!
Could you possibly say I said something I actually said?!

You can’t make this shit up.
That's 100% of what you're doing right there!
You 100% lied here.

If you want to walk it back, you have the opportunity do so, right here, right now.
Or you can pull an @Ucfmikes and say everyone is protected and cannot spread.

How many times are you guys going to 100% lie about what I said?! Seriously.
 


Any sheep want to reiterate their earlier claims that these vaccines are perfectly safe again? You got the jab without all of the information and attacked those who didn't follow you into the corrals.
The US FDA decided on this weeks ago. Politics took over and .. well ... yeah.

They added the warning label because it's almost entirely UN-reported after the 1st jab. It's not until the 2nd jab are parents reporting the fact that their children, usually young men, struggled with the 1st jab.

Right now we're looking at more than 1 in 10,000 being hospitalized, 10% of those requiring long-term care. That's just the 2nd jab. It's more likely more than 1 in 1,000 with the 1st jab, and hospitalization can be utterly avoided by just NOT getting the 2nd jab.

I have an enlarged heart due to my Conn's Syndrome, and was damaged 2 years until they figured it out, and I'm no longer having any issues, or further enlargement. The existing damage is permanent.

Again, it took 2 years to figure out it was Conn's Syndrome -- which is <1% of heart issues, and usually shows up by 35 (I was 45) -- because I have no blood or other issue they could identify, including my BP being normal. It took an endocrinologist to figure out why my heart was enlarged, because blood pressure medicine did nothing ("just slow the fat guy's heart with beta blockers" -- freaking stupid!) and only made things worse.

It's not my eating (<1,200 calories/day). It's not my exercise (600-1,200 steps up stairs a day). It's really related to my glands and other issues that have 'set in' after my 30s. Traveling 100% most of my career really hurt too, despite my avoiding eating out.

So I'm extremely familiar with enlarged hearts, from being excessively athletic in my youth to learning how much of my Native American (Cherokee) genetics make up my various physical and blood differences as I get older. Now that I know what to look for, I can have them test for various things. Freak things happen in tiny percentages, and they go utterly ignored.

My father had a heart valve fold and calcify. It took various doctors a bit to figure that out, because all of his tests were coming back just fine too.
 
^^^ I never said this!!!

In fact, I said I did NOT blame Biden for 70% at all.
I said it had NOTHING to do with Biden.


^^^ 100% LIE!
Could you possibly say I said something I actually said?!


That's 100% of what you're doing right there!
You 100% lied here.

If you want to walk it back, you have the opportunity do so, right here, right now.
Or you can pull an @Ucfmikes and say everyone is protected and cannot spread.

How many times are you guys going to 100% lie about what I said?! Seriously.
If you’ve got an issue, here’s a tissue. Deal with it.
 
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