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Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Crazyhole, Jul 15, 2019.

  1. Cubs79

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    I know. It is weird. If Trump is such a brilliant guy and great president it seems he (and others) would want to talk about him more, and not change the subject every time he is brought up.
     
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    The silent majority.

    This is something I struggle with. I'm far from having TDS but the list is long and dates back over a long period of time. Part of the problem as I see it is you have a biased MSM and a shitty establishment so Trump is the hero the people wanted and I understand that. Then you throw in the fact that "business is boomin" and everyone's portfolio is looking nice so people are able to overlook the warts. Heck they're often justified bc of the MSM and onslaught of attacks from the left. All this in addition to street level culture wars tied to the "pussification of America" and rebellion against "political correctness".

    From a human behavior standpoint it all makes sense to me and I'm not even trying to vilify anyone bc that simply doesn't work. My only thing is that at some point these things have to matter coming from the top leader and we need to acknowledge the impact, as subconscious as it might be.

    Intelligent people have to recognize that this type of talk resonates with a certain % of his base. He has to know this. And if that's the case there are 2 options. 1) He knows exactly what he's doing yet chooses to engage anyways. 2) He doesn't think things through and is a loose cannon. Am I the only one who thinks both are incredibly problematic?

    Why can't he quit doing this shit and continue his "winning"? He's the only thing getting in his way from a cakewalk to 4 more years.

    More than anything though why aren't his supporters holding him accountable? I don't care about previous admins or anyone else. It's gotta start at the top and it has to start now or else this shit never ends. Ego, pride and arrogance be damned. I know the pressure of always being criticized is enormous but stop being a child and turn off the TV and sign out of Twitter. There's no doubt in my mind that the majority of his supporters are good people who hate hearing this stuff but choose policy over everything. Again my question is simply why can't it be both? Maybe he'll call your bluff knowing you won't actually vote against him but the appeal is simple. If you win with policy while also taking the high road while everyone around you is slinging shit then in time the masses will see it. Yea it's tough and maybe you won't get to enjoy the dopamine rush that the short term pettiness affords but it is necessary. If you TRULY only care about this country and making sure it's great then that includes right speech, it has to.

    How practical is all that kumbaya shit in the real world? I dunno. I just know it's the only answer. This shit can't be "won" by shouting down, silencing or banishing the other team. And if you think that's how it has to go down then we're fuked bc we all know exactly how this is gonna end and we're all just wasting time so someone might as well just go ahead and fire the first shots :uzi:

    I say all of that and I'm still not going to sit here and say he's a racist. It serves no point and only puts him and his supporters on the defensive. I'm just saying he's said and been involved with enough suspect shit over the decades that an honest person needs to pause and do some soul searching.

    Again, this doesn't excuse anyone from the other side. He just has an opportunity to put a stranglehold on not only the upcoming election but the trajectory of :americanflag: but he can't seem to help himself. Why is that?



    http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019...ust-a-guy-who-keeps-saying-racist-things.html
     
  3. YourWifesBoyfriend

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    Uh oh, remember how mad you got when it was pointed out the only socialist countries you liked were white?
    You thought we forgot, didn't you? This is a pretty big inconsistency in your logic you need to explain.
     
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    And yet they didn't have prior experience in any elected office.

    You should research Omar's history, like Trump's has been overly exposed. They are the same kind.
     
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    I never said the silent majority of Republicans were right. But they wanted anyone but the establishment. That's why he won, and not because the GOP establishment wanted him. Far from it.

    But unlike the DNC and Sanders with their silent majority, the GOP was founded in the mid 19th century to allow broad ballot access, precisely because the DNC had 'cut it off' by then. That's why the GOP gets most of the crackpots, although the Libertarian party does have people like McAfee. ;)

    The approval rating of the President is higher than the US media, by a wide margin. That's scary, yes.

    It won't last. Late W., Obama, now Trump. Everyone wants to overspend around $1T/year. It's unbelievable.

    Yes, and as even the The Atlantic pointed out recently, less than 10% want political correctness.

    Yes, which is why I refuse to vote for Trump, and I take issue with a lot of what he says.

    The irony here is that Trump opening his Twitter feed yet again cause Pelosi to rally around the 4. Had he not said anything, it wouldn't have happened. Trump just hurt himself, at the worst time.

    At the same time, Omar uses the exact same phrasing, continually. And then AOC uses totalitarian logic that actually 1-ups Trump, while ignoring her own statements for people like herself and people around her. So... what's 'insensitive' and 'vulgar'?

    I don't disagree coming from the President is disgusting, but he was a Reality TV star, and it doesn't shock me. But now we're seeing everyday politicians stooping to the same levels. They are all children in my eyes ... equally.

    Again, RealityTV star. And they are taking over too.

    Indeed. And you know who screams that most? The silent majority that voted for him.
     
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    i like how cubs doesnt think that aoc and her friends dont have any power. they literally couldve drafted some bills to give those poor kids more money to make the more comfortable. oh wait, she didnt do that. oh thats right, she didnt approve of the other bill from the senate to do that.

    she doesnt care. she wants to make their conditions worse and use them as a political football against the trump admin. just be honest about it.
     
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    The bill still passed, you realize that right? Her only power was her 1 vote, and her 1 vote didn't change the outcome of the bill.
     
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    Nobody is talking about prior experience, I am talking about position. Although, Omar was a state Rep in Minnesota for 2 years, so she did have some experience. What are you you honestly arguing? That a representative has as much power and influence as the president?

    I don't know what "like Trump's has been overly exposed. They are the same kind" means.
     
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    my bad i thought it was stalled out and not voted on.

    did she vote yes or no for that bill?
     
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    She voted no, then it passed, which is a perfect illustration of her limitations in power.
     
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    so she actually doesnt care about those people in the detention centers and is using the poor conditions shes helped to create as a political football.

    are you not outraged by that or are you just trying to virtue signal as well?
     
  12. Cubs79

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    You are completely changing the subject. She explained why she voted against it, because she doesn't want them funded period so the center don't exist.
     
  13. fried-chicken

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    Banned scumbag
     
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    Banned scumbag
     
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    If I posted a titty I'd be banned in 5 min but posters can post images comparing black people and gorillas.

    If a titty is an instaban because it's NSFW then straight up racism should be an instaban. I don't know about everyone's place of business but I have to assume that shit would get people fired so it's also NSFW.

    This is a website that bleeps out the F word. But we got black people and gorillas being compared saying the gorilla is smarter. I think Brandon has black members of this board and doesn't need his company to be used to facilitate racism against his own customers. He should do something.
     
  16. fried-chicken

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    Maybe I should see if a woman in a skimpy outfit is more offensive to the mods here than calling black people gorillas I wonder how fast I'd be banned.
     
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    I think that's plausible given this was posted at 1:18 am. WTF?
     
  18. fried-chicken

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    I know, I'm just saying when a tit is an instaban and comparing gorillas and black people is nothing that means the system is ****ed up
     
  19. sk8knight

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    AOC has captured the attention of the media both left and right. This gives her a platform and gives her power. Far more power than her one vote in the house.
     
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    No it doesn't. If she isn't able to get her initiatives pushed through, then you cant say she is more powerful than she is. Notoriety and actual power are not the same thing.
     
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    She just inspired a left wing domestic terrorist to bomb an ICE facility, directly referencing her words and usage of "concentration camps" in his manifesto, and tons and tons of liberals on Twitter praised this left wing terrorist and activists like Shaun King openly called for more acts of terrorism on Twitter.

    She has power alright, it's just the incendiary, violent type of power that extremists cling to.
     
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    Shaun King has been around a lot longer than AOC so it is quite the stretch to say he stems from her influence. And if we are going to blame every nut job on people in power then I guess Trump is responsible for the NZ mosque shooter who directly praised him.
     
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    This guys' manifesto didn't reference Shaun King though, it referenced exact language that AOC was using.

    King simply cheerleaded the domestic terrorism after the fact.
     
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    Would you like to respond to the rest of the post?
     
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    The shooter referenced him because he wanted to create an internal political war in the US. He said exactly that in his own little manifesto.

    This left wing terrorist wrote about "concentration camps" because he had heard it enough from people like AOC and genuinely believed that we're living in 1941 Germany. Hearing about Nazis running "concentration camps" in the US sparked him into action and this is evidenced by the lefties on Twitter hailing him as a hero and a martyr.
     
  26. Cubs79

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    Right, right. When a manifesto references lefties it is all the lefties fault, when it references righties, it is never the righties fault. Got ya.
     
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    No, how it usually works is that Republicans or Conservatives get blamed for every/any shooting from anyone even perceived to be a "right winger", no matter how lacking of fact that may be, within seconds of the shooting taking place.
     
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    And then we find out that they've mostly been lefties except for the asshole racist in South Carolina.
     
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    So no one seems to care that we have openly racist people on this board supporting an openly racist POTUS. Awesome.

    $20 says this human piece of shit on our board gets his post edited or deleted and nothing happens to him. Continuing to make our University look like a steaming pile of racist shit.
     
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    &QUOTE="NinjaKnight, post: 1629739, member: 950"]So no one seems to care that we have openly racist people on this board supporting an openly racist POTUS. Awesome.

    $20 says this human piece of shit on our board gets his post edited or deleted and nothing happens to him. Continuing to make our University look like a steaming pile of racist shit.[/QUOTE]

    Well I will be got damned: Yourwifesboyfriend has been banned.
     
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    Well I will be got damned: Yourwifesboyfriend has been banned.[/QUOTE]

    How do you know this?
     
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    Well I will be got damned: Yourwifesboyfriend has been banned.[/QUOTE]

    Well I'll be damned too. Finally took long enough. But since I'm a man of my word just made a $20 donation.

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    How do you know this?[/QUOTE]

    Search for him. He gone.
     
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    About damn time.
     
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    Maybe go ahead and delete this response.
     
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    And this one.
     
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    I deleted mine. Credit given where due.
     
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    If YWB really did get banned we should all start a contest to see who can come closest to guessing his next sock puppet identify.
     
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    yourwifesgynecologistsusedcondom.


    Damn. I should've taken that one first.
     
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    Is he banned? I think people should know the quality of that dudes character. I'll gladly edit it away if he's not going to be posting here anymore. If he is then I think I'll let people see what kind of shitbags we allow in the WC
     

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