Imagine thinking gullible voters influenced by Russian bots is equivalent to unfounded accusations of voter fraud. Yeah the 2016 election wasn’t fraudulent, but Russian propaganda was allowed to spread unchecked. Nobody refused to concede and Obama hosted Trump at the White House the following day to begin the transition. There wasn’t massive stop the steal rallies and inciting of riots up until the minute of EC certification. It’s comical that people try to draw parallels between 2016 and 2020.
Where does she mention Russian interference here? Maybe the last part about hacking? False stories? That’s at the end, certainly not the main part of her argument.
I hear this a lot, but what’s the false story from Russian bots that swung the 2016 election? I’m curious if any of that has been quantified... what’s the number of votes? What’s the real impact of Russian interference? How many votes did they swing?
Lol... get called out on your BS and try to cut the discussion off. Classic.
You’re an absolute idiot. I’ve never once said I believe the election was stolen. Please find receipts if I have. Moron.
Educate yourself rather than sounding ignorant. No it wasn’t a single story but a massive collaborative effort. And the quantifiable aspect is not entirely known which is why Clinton accepted defeat with grace and didn’t go out kicking and screaming like Trump did.
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Lol... I’ve read all of that.Educate yourself rather than sounding ignorant. No it wasn’t a single story but a massive collaborative effort. And the quantifiable aspect is not entirely known which is why Clinton accepted defeat with grace and didn’t go out kicking and screaming like Trump did.
Russia used social media for widespread meddling in U.S. politics: reports
Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election on social media was more widespread than previously thought and included attempts to divide Americans by race and extreme ideology, said reports by private experts released on Monday by U.S. senators from both parties...
“Oxford/Graphika said the Russians spread ‘sensationalist, conspiratorialist, and other forms of junk political news and misinformation to voters across the political spectrum.’”
“one Russian troll farm tried to encourage U.S. ‘secessionist movements’ in California and Texas, the New Knowledge report said.”
“Russian trolls urged African-Americans to boycott the election or to follow wrong voting procedures, while also encouraging right-wing voters to be more confrontational.”
“Russian trolls have put out messages urging Mexican-American and other Hispanic voters to mistrust U.S. institutions.”
“Russians ran ‘comprehensive Anti-Hillary Clinton operations,such as efforts to organize Muslims to stage a pro-Clinton demonstration.”
Yessirrreee, keep trying to spin your way out of this mess you've made.
That wasn’t the question you posed. You asked what could have tipped the election and if it was quantifiable. There are reports of the activities that occurred in an attempt to tip the scales though their exact impact is unknown. Someone holding an opinion that he was illegitimate could be based on that I guess or the fact that he was the most unpopular president in modern history and lost the popular vote by a wide margin. It’s possible to acknowledge Russian interference influenced the election and still think it was a valid result per the rules.
I was posting on another board back then but when I talked about Russia's interference in our election, I was accused of 'making excuses' for Hillary's loss. I said at the time that it was possible to believe Trump won the election fair and square (which I said) while also recognizing that there was some Russian online troll business going on.
All I’ve stated is that Hillary very clearly has been casting doubt on the election outcome for 4+ years now, and that rhetoric is getting nastier. Your assertion that Trump is the one who started the whole thing is completely wrong. Just because he escalated it (that’s his personality) doesn’t mean he’s the first to do it. Neither does the fact that he didn’t start it absolve him of blame. He behaved shamefully.Yessirrreee, keep trying to spin your way out of this mess you've made.
I totally forgot the stink Hillary and the Democrats made after Trump's upset win. Apparently, Hilary's concession speech to her supporters was a dream -- as was her concession call to Trump. And did President Obama really invite Trump to the WH a couple days later to talk transition? Weird how memories change after four years.
Damn you have the ability to do some insane mental gymnastics. No we should criticize the actions of Trump after he lost the election. They were shameful. It isn’t hypocritical to do so just because in your mind Hillary and Biden had some master plan hatched to do the same thing. Again comical.
She made statements that Biden should have a traveling circus of lawyers filing baseless lawsuits until the final hour and hold stop the steal rallies to fire up supporter to storm the capital and prevent counting of electoral votes while meanwhile claiming daily that he won in a landslide by 10s of millions of votes that were “flipped”? I missed that statement. No there was not a plan for Biden to do the same thing and calling Trump a sore loser and a clown is not being hypocritical.
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No there was not a plan for Biden to do the same thing and calling Trump a sore loser and a clown is not being hypocritical.
No, after that. Six months ago when she said Biden shouldn’t concede under any circumstances.
This keen WC observation is coming from a Trump supporter without a trace of irony.
I don’t have to continue to prove that I’ll criticize Trump where I feel he deserves it, because I’ve done it plenty. That includes this thread and on this topic.
Focus. He specifically said Trump could not be criticized for his post election tantrum and the fallout from it because it would be hypocritical since Hillary Clinton apparently called him illegitimate 6 months ago or something (not exactly sure what she did or said). I just said that was lunacy. That’s all. I’m not a fan of either party so not sure what y’all you are referring to.
I’ll give you Biden if you stop looking at him 8 years ago. This Biden is just riding the wave as a figurehead. Look at his nominees; they’re all considerably more progressive than the moderat Biden has even been.
