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It was us or USC. The situation here was better. Plan was to have him sit for a year and take over as a RS. Wimbush was bad and accelerated his starting. Who gave him a committable offer if Heupel didn’t? Who started him and he didn’t leave until a dufferent coach came in?
Correct. It was USC or us. Georgia had pursued him, but they found a better transfer in their eyes, that pretty much ended DG's consideration of them, which everyone reported as Georgia understanding he'd be their #2 now as well.
But ... all that was much, much later! My continued point!
Before Milton went down, Heupel did not want DG. That was reported by several, much to the frustration of Milton himself. That's why DG didn't decommit from Army (sorry, I said Navy earlier, that was Milton himself before Frost showed interest at Oregon) until much, much later.
And ... the rest is history. Wimbush was supposed to be QB#1 once Milton went down, with DG rotating in that first year, probably redshirt, but not necessarily. Wimbush only had 1 year left as a grad transfer, so Heupel's freshman needed to be 'the future.' Heupel did not want DG, and DG only became 'the option left' when no others came out.
Had Milton not been injured, we would very likely never had DG. I want to make that point clear!
Check the dates.
Wimbush was looking bad at camp early on. I never said Heupel didn't use DG. I'm just saying Heupel did not want DG, and it wasn't until Wimbush was trash, that he finally had to make that move.
DG was not his choice. DG was the only option left, after Milton went down. Heupel was looking at other options to back up Milton before that. DG was not even on his radar, other than what Milton told him.
I spoke with Danny in the summer n all of UCF(is)BS says is wrong. They loved Gabriel it was obvious. No need to argue with him Certain people will spout out BS and when someone confronts them with the truth they still stand by their total nonsense
Crazy to live like that but I guess some can’t overcome this deficiency
Of course KZ and Danny did! That's who was pushing so hard for them, among others! DG wanted to come to UCF! That was never in any doubt!
But why did DG take so long to open up his recruiting again?! I heard it was Heupel not wanting him.
It was going around this board for awhile.
That the 'hold up' in DG even getting an official offer, because he didn't open up his recruiting until late in the season, because of Heupel, no one else.
I.e., we were all dumbfounded because, again, DG wanted to come to UCF!
So ... what you're saying is that Heupel himself wanted DG way back in 2018? Again ...
Q: Why did DG not decommit and open up his recruiting much sooner, if Heupel always wanted him?!
UCFBS talks nonsense? Ding! Ding! Ding! You win.
Hate to bring this up but with UF dline having a field day with our OL and Colorado too we might have an offensive line issue here?
Thanks. He went round and round and said nothing but nonsense. Crazy. Never saw him before or paid no attention to.
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It was on the board dude. Seriously. We talked about this at length, why Gabriel stuck with Army so long ... until Milton went down. That's the reason I'm in the Dungeon! I do not disagree with you most everything else.
Georgia stopped pursing him hard, because they got another QB. They wanted DG before that, no argument. But not once they had a better QB option. You really don't remember that year, do you?
But yes, USC still did want DG. But DG had pretty much committed to us, well beflore we even offered. So how can I be 100% wrong when I'm agreeing with most of what you say?! Why don't you admit I agreed with you on those points?
As far as this ...
WHEN did I disagree with this?! WHEN?! Why are you just 'running over me' and not listening to what I agreed with you on?!
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You do understand what we call Shuck there, correct? He cannot even follow more than a single season. I mean, we've all caught him oblivious of history.
Dude you’re describing yourself now. Reread your posts A third grader does more factual research & is more persuasive
In addition your posts seem REALLY angry as you provide incoherent posts. Take care of your health it’s not worth it.
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The funny thing is ... I agreed with 90% of what you said, and you still acted like I didn't. You kept saying things over and over as if I disagreed with you.
- Milton, White, our OC and almost everyone wanted DG
- DG wanted to join Milton at UCF too
- USC never had a chance, despite what they thought
- But DG wasn't going to decommit and reopen his recruiting if UCF didn't extend him an offer
You also discredited yourself about Georgia. They initially wanted DG, but then got their guy, and DG saw that too. That was well reported at ESPN and several other sources.
At least I have my integrity. Honestly. Shuck? Good luck in getting him to admit anything. The guy will say something, and 10 people will point out something, and he'll just keep going on. Years later, he utterly forgets what he said.
Again, be careful ... he will come after you too, as he has others. Same with Mikes. I call them 'The Cabal' for a reason. They refuse to ever admit what they do, and the wasteland they leave.
Good luck yourself!
These boards are for entertainment value only. The problem I have is when a person tries to act like they know everything when they really don’t. They wouldn’t be on this board if they knew everything. I know some stuff but certainly not every thing. The worst is when they have an agenda See Auburn Legacy. Personally I owe more to UCF than one can imagine. It gave me 4 great years and paid for them when I could not. I was part of some historic times but more so fun n great times. It allowed me the foundation to create a pretty good life. Thats y I stay involved with program.The funny thing is ... I agreed with 90% of what you said, and you still acted like I didn't. You kept saying things over and over as if I disagreed with you.
It took forever before DG reopened his recruiting. Why was that?! That ... is everything!
- Milton, White, our OC and almost everyone wanted DG
- DG wanted to join Milton at UCF too
- USC never had a chance, despite what they thought
- But DG wasn't going to decommit and reopen his recruiting if UCF didn't extend him an offer
You also discredited yourself about Georgia. They initially wanted DG, but then got their guy, and DG saw that too. That was well reported at ESPN and several other sources.
At least I have my integrity. Honestly. Shuck? Good luck in getting him to admit anything. The guy will say something, and 10 people will point out something, and he'll just keep going on. Years later, he utterly forgets what he said.
Again, be careful ... he will come after you too, as he has others. Same with Mikes. I call them 'The Cabal' for a reason. They refuse to ever admit what they do, and the wasteland they leave.
Good luck yourself!
If Gus does good I’m happy because UCF does good. If he fails or is on the road to fail not so much. That being said these boards don’t change my mood or anything in my life as I know the value they hold. It’s entertainment and gives me a distraction n get away for a few moments from my office and staff.
Charge on !!!
Again, I agreed with 90% of what you asserted. And no ... I don't know everything.
But I do remember 2018, well before 2019. I remember the complaints from people asking, why DG didn't have an offer yet, and why DG hadn't completely decommitted and reopened his recruiting, even though there was a lot of talk, including from various teams.
And I do remember those who follow the recruiting here explaining the situation ... that Heupel wasn't 'sold' on DG over other targets, even transfers, despite everyone from Milton himself to White loving the idea, and DG utterly wanting to come to UCF, over anywhere else.
I remember the arrogance of both Georgia, let alone USC, although Georgia soon 'tapered off' as they got another commitment, and a transfer, and even ESPN reported that. But USC was arrogant, right until the end, and dismissed UCF. DG always wanted to come here.
It was all about why it took so long. And that had everything to do with the massively delayed offer ... until Milton himself went down. Only then did everything start moving, and the official offers flew from us, in addition to Georgia, USC and several, other Power programs.
The timeline just 'fits.' A lot of us were frustrated, and we were told Heupel was the hold-up.
I don't disagree on what happened in 2019. Wimbush was a clear bust, and Heupel realized DG was the future, not a transfer. He had to try Wimbush, of course, otherwise ... when DG threw picks and lost games, fans would be complaining he should have started Wimbush.
Remember, I'm just pointing out ... Gus was not the only problem with this program at times. Heupel had plenty of issues, including with DG, back in 2018, well before 2019. You can say otherwise. And you can assert otherwise. Heck, mispelling Heupel says a lot, but I don't pick on such things.
I have my history on this board. The ones telling you things about me are lying. You can look at the archives. You'll see why they hate me. I stated things, and years later, they were proven true. I'm wrong sometimes, but I own it.
I'm just reporting what was on the board. If you say otherwise, so be it ... again, I'm not an authority on this.
But ESPN reporting is EPSN reporting, and they even talked about Georgia no longer having DG as a primary target, as even DG realized they had a QB now. And ... the timeline fits.
I kinda ignore him ... to a point.
Hey man, I'm totally with you on 2019, and Huepel finally extending an offer by the time Milton went down. Late November changed everything, and we were huge on DG -- publicly -- in December.
I just think you're not covering the prior times, despite Milton being all for him, as well as the story our AD wanted too. I thought it was awesome, and no one else I knew thought it wasn't either.
But we were told, on this board, it was Heupel that 'wasn't sold,' but then had to 'scramble' once Milton went down. Wimbush came later.
Good. I treat the board like that too.
Just be careful with a few characters around here ... they take things off-board. I'm up front in Section 129, center Cabana, and when my flights don't get canceled (and even if they do sometimes, and I do the 21 hour round trip), I'm there! I also try to make 1-2 road games/year.
So it gets laughable when other people say I don't go to games, or away games for that matter, and don't give a dime to the program. I've been going since after the Noise Penalty game (wish I would have been into UCF before that), and started giving after I was out of the College of Engineering (when it was named without Computer Science back then) in the '90s.
The Fiestas, Ireland ... even the Hawaii ... I was there. I will be there. GKCO!
Playing victim and making enemies again. Harassing more posters. “But.., but.., but.., it’s everyone else!” Boo Hoo. Cry me a river.The funny thing is ... I agreed with 90% of what you said, and you still acted like I didn't. You kept saying things over and over as if I disagreed with you.
It took forever before DG reopened his recruiting. Why was that?! That ... is everything!
- Milton, White, our OC and almost everyone wanted DG
- DG wanted to join Milton at UCF too
- USC never had a chance, despite what they thought
- But DG wasn't going to decommit and reopen his recruiting if UCF didn't extend him an offer
You also discredited yourself about Georgia. They initially wanted DG, but then got their guy, and DG saw that too. That was well reported at ESPN and several other sources.
At least I have my integrity. Honestly. Shuck? Good luck in getting him to admit anything. The guy will say something, and 10 people will point out something, and he'll just keep going on. Years later, he utterly forgets what he said.
Again, be careful ... he will come after you too, as he has others. Same with Mikes. I call them 'The Cabal' for a reason. They refuse to ever admit what they do, and the wasteland they leave.
Good luck yourself!
Shocking. Time to locate your mania medicine and actually take it
You’re a lunatic.
THIS^^^Excellent response. All true and backed up with facts. We beat 2 cupcakes, a bad TCU team, and then beat ourselves at florida. Play calling and QB selection are just terrible.
Heupel had us nose diving quickly. 3 years of spiraling downward i believe. We were terrible when he left.
We were scoring points. Shannon wasn’t good and seemed to be mailing it in and had the team divided.
Hey bs you little pussy
Dude has nothing going for him so sits online247
The man always hides in here. He also pretended to be a HACKER MASTER last year and a UCF professor before he changed his name. He also lives in podunk Alabama and his wife looks like she has a touch of downs.
Dude has nothing going for him so sits online247
Don’t want to defend BS but he is partially right but so many other coaches missed on making DG a priority partly bc limited evaluation being in Hawaii. His recruitment developed late where he sat with an Army offer and commitment and not much else for a while.
I believe Heupel gray shirt offered DG but flip flopped once Georgia showed interest and he visited. It is all in the Recruiting Thread.
But Heupel was smart enough to see Wimbush wasn’t going to get it done and made the switch early enough unlike Gus w KJ. And Heupel despite his weaknesses at UCF knew how to scout the most important position.
The issue isn’t how DG got here. It’s why didn’t he stay? Any explanation that doesn’t list NIL as No. 1 is hogwash. The days of attracting — and keeping— a DG or a Milton in his prime are over.
There are a lot of athletes that get recruited late. This is not the first one. BS was way off point in respect to Gabriel, trying to protect Gus. He acts like the prior coach did not pursue him, which is wrong. He did pursue him, but like a lot of other athletes there is not an instant pursuit. We beat out some other programs, bottom line, for Gabriel and the kid started his second game on campus.
Gus put this kid in position to physically be abused with this high school offense and Gus would not know how to develop a quarterback if it smacked him in the face
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To anyone bringing up the step up in competition excuse the Big 12 isn’t very good this season, UCF didn’t jump to the SEC West. there are programs in the league that are more successful that have had lower ranked recruiting classes the last few years.
And Gus had embarrassing Home losses when UCF was still in the AAC
And Gus had embarrassing Home losses when UCF was still in the AAC
Cincinnati basically had to a complete rebuild in 2023 when Fickell left, went 3-9. They were in a much worse position making the jump to B12. They nearly sent the game last year in to overtime, had they got the 2 point conversion. If UCF can't keep up with Cincinnati, they are not going to compete in the B12.
Oh yes! Randy shannon was horrible!...giving up 700 ypg!!
He should have been developing Jacurri Brown from the beginning of this year!
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