It’s time for us to part ways with Grandpa Boom

[AuburnLegacy_1]

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Get Grandpa Boom and Doom away from my university. He’s turned this program into a joke.

Isaiah Nixon is the one I thought should have left the program in the spring. However, he reshaped his body and surpassed Kaven Call, who I thought had a chance to be a solid reserve at that time.

I am not surprised often, but Nixon really impressed me with his physical growth and development. If he continues his upward track, he will be a multi-year starter, beginning next season.

I did not think he would ever play a significant snap for UCF. Kudos to him and "Grandpa Boom" for seeing the upside potential.

 

[HammerB08]

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Get Grandpa Boom and Doom away from my university. He’s turned this program into a joke.

Now we have grounds to fire for cause*

 

[90Knight]

I am "gloating" that Malzahn actually wants to coach at UCF. Everybody else doesn't GAS about UCF.

Y'all are getting the cart wwwwwaaaayyy ahead of the horse. I mean I could understand these discussions if UCF was winless.

UCF hasn't fired a head coach in over 20 years.

Gus isn’t doing us any favors coaching at UCF. He knows this is a good situation with financial and facilities support, a P4 label, a conference anyone can win, and arguably surrounded by the best football players in America…all within a short drive to recruit.

If he leaves, very good coaches will be lining up and drooling over the UCF job.

 

[BlakNGoldAllDay]

Gus isn’t doing us any favors coaching at UCF. He knows this is a good situation with financial and facilities support, a P4 label, a conference anyone can win, and arguably surrounded by the best football players in America…all within a short drive to recruit.

If he leaves, very good coaches will be lining up and drooling over the UCF job.

And will get better results.

 

[Bring Back Wackadoos]

I brought this up weeks ago, after the UF game in the beginning of October.

But I still don’t understand why “the stretch” option is not mentioned more? All our fans ever talk about is how UCF can’t afford Grandpa’s buyout, but it’s always in the context of paying him the lump sum right now. Who says we can’t pay what we can afford now, and stretch the majority of the money owed to him out over many years in the future?

As much as I hate Boom and Doom, and attribute his failures to ruining my school’s brand, national interest, success, legacy, etc. - I still realize that he’s no dummy. No one would walk away with money still on the table. He’s a family man, he’s a provider. That’s money owed to him that he can leave to his children and grandchildren. Can’t blame him there…

This is where Terry has to dig in and have the difficult conversations with Boomer. And at the end of the day, I guess that’s where this discussion becomes much more complicated and frustrating. The AD put us all in this position, the AD is not going to push Gus away and negotiate a buyout/stretch, and I don’t think we want this AD bringing in a new coach either.

This bottom out is going to really suck.

 

[Gwoz]

Malzahn and Mohajir agreed on a contract extension last year when there was nothing to warrant it, even if it was decided before the 2023 season. From Mohajir's perspective, if he fires Malzahn now he openly admits that the extension was a terrible decision and cost the program millions.

Both Mohajir and Malzahn look bad, so now they can conspire together to save themselves while earning millions by pointing fingers at everyone else. Coordinators, NIL collective, ect with the hopes they some how start winning again.

 

[ks2-1]

Fire tik tok Terry too. He’s the ass to Gus’ asshat

 

[ks2-1]

And wtf is this bullshit of paying people to fail!

 

[UCFBS]

Fire tik tok Terry too. He’s the ass to Gus’ asshat

And wtf is this bullshit of paying people to fail!

It's supposed to be like the US Constitution ... you don't have Amendments on-a-whim, and you force people to really consider 'the cost' before doing it. That's why they exist.

Like it or not, fair or not, it's designed to keep ADs from the pressures of the rabid fanbase who cannot fathom 1 loss, which clearly applied here against Colorado. We wait for more losses in the season now, of which ... is now more relevant.

Of course, it also gives coaches 2-3 seasons at times. But that's also by design, like it or not, fair or not. It's that simple.

 

[Knight_Classes_begin_7pm]

Malzahn and Mohajir agreed on a contract extension last year when there was nothing to warrant it, even if it was decided before the 2023 season. From Mohajir's perspective, if he fires Malzahn now he openly admits that the extension was a terrible decision and cost the program millions.

Both Mohajir and Malzahn look bad, so now they can conspire together to save themselves while earning millions by pointing fingers at everyone else. Coordinators, NIL collective, ect with the hopes they some how start winning again.

absolutely nothing to warrant it! agree 1000%

 

[Knight_Classes_begin_7pm]

I brought this up weeks ago, after the UF game in the beginning of October.

But I still don’t understand why “the stretch” option is not mentioned more? All our fans ever talk about is how UCF can’t afford Grandpa’s buyout, but it’s always in the context of paying him the lump sum right now. Who says we can’t pay what we can afford now, and stretch the majority of the money owed to him out over many years in the future?

As much as I hate Boom and Doom, and attribute his failures to ruining my school’s brand, national interest, success, legacy, etc. - I still realize that he’s no dummy. No one would walk away with money still on the table. He’s a family man, he’s a provider. That’s money owed to him that he can leave to his children and grandchildren. Can’t blame him there…

This is where Terry has to dig in and have the difficult conversations with Boomer. And at the end of the day, I guess that’s where this discussion becomes much more complicated and frustrating. The AD put us all in this position, the AD is not going to push Gus away and negotiate a buyout/stretch, and I don’t think we want this AD bringing in a new coach either.

This bottom out is going to really suck.

Malzahn has millions from Auburn. He doesn't need a dime for the rest of his life.

 

[Bring Back Wackadoos]

Malzahn has millions from Auburn. He doesn't need a dime for the rest of his life.

No one “needs” millions of dollars when they already have millions of dollars. That doesn’t mean that anyone in their right mind would ever walk away from it/leave it on the table. Be serious, you would walk away from $12 million? lol…

 

[UCFsbarro]

Seriously makes you wonder if Malzahn and Mohajir made a pact to drain this program of every nickel they could before they’re both canned. The extension/raise for Gus made absolutely no sense.

 

[Knight_Classes_begin_7pm]

No one “needs” millions of dollars when they already have millions of dollars. That doesn’t mean that anyone in their right mind would ever walk away from it/leave it on the table. Be serious, you would walk away from $12 million? lol…

I did not mention anything what you posted. Comprehensive reading, He could survive relatively well from now on if he didn't make another dime.

 

[ks2-1]

It's supposed to be like the US Constitution ... you don't have Amendments on-a-whim, and you force people to really consider 'the cost' before doing it. That's why they exist.

Like it or not, fair or not, it's designed to keep ADs from the pressures of the rabid fanbase who cannot fathom 1 loss, which clearly applied here against Colorado. We wait for more losses in the season now, of which ... is now more relevant.

Of course, it also gives coaches 2-3 seasons at times. But that's also by design, like it or not, fair or not. It's that simple.

Well I don't like it much!

 

[Gwoz]

Seriously makes you wonder if Malzahn and Mohajir made a pact to drain this program of every nickel they could before they’re both canned. The extension/raise for Gus made absolutely no sense.

Malzahn doesn't need Mohajir, he is all set. However, Mohajir is not getting $12 million if he gets fired, he doesn't have a $20+ million buyout from Auburn. If he gets exposed for running UCF into the ground he's at best getting a job that will pay 1/2 as much. He has a lot to lose.

 

[BlakNGoldAllDay]

I brought this up weeks ago, after the UF game in the beginning of October.

But I still don’t understand why “the stretch” option is not mentioned more? All our fans ever talk about is how UCF can’t afford Grandpa’s buyout, but it’s always in the context of paying him the lump sum right now. Who says we can’t pay what we can afford now, and stretch the majority of the money owed to him out over many years in the future?

As much as I hate Boom and Doom, and attribute his failures to ruining my school’s brand, national interest, success, legacy, etc. - I still realize that he’s no dummy. No one would walk away with money still on the table. He’s a family man, he’s a provider. That’s money owed to him that he can leave to his children and grandchildren. Can’t blame him there…

This is where Terry has to dig in and have the difficult conversations with Boomer. And at the end of the day, I guess that’s where this discussion becomes much more complicated and frustrating. The AD put us all in this position, the AD is not going to push Gus away and negotiate a buyout/stretch, and I don’t think we want this AD bringing in a new coach either.

This bottom out is going to really suck.

According to Stephen Leonard the contract stipulates 75% must be paid in first 30 days and the remaining can be spread out. So 9 mil is immediate with 3 mil spread out. If he’s correct.

 

[UCFsbarro]

Malzahn doesn't need Mohajir, he is all set. However, Mohajir is not getting $12 million if he gets fired, he doesn't have a $20+ million buyout from Auburn. If he gets exposed for running UCF into the ground he's at best getting a job that will pay 1/2 as much. He has a lot to lose.

Disclaimer: Absolute conspiracy theory;

Terry extends Gus with a handshake deal to get a cut of his buyout. Terry fires Gus over the offseason and maintains positive public image for getting rid of the problem. Gus gets a sweet early retirement check and Terry pads his back pocket.

How many UCF fans besides diehards and message board folk really know that Terry extended him? Most casual UCF fans would read the headline that Gus got fired and move right on to “who is the next head coach going to be?”.

 

[LoboCane]

Gus is not walking away from $12M. He knows he’s not wanted by fans or boosters but he wants his money.

 

[BlakNGoldAllDay]

Disclaimer: Absolute conspiracy theory;

Terry extends Gus with a handshake deal to get a cut of his buyout. Terry fires Gus over the offseason and maintains positive public image for getting rid of the problem. Gus gets a sweet early retirement check and Terry pads his back pocket.

How many UCF fans besides diehards and message board folk really know that Terry extended him? Most casual UCF fans would read the headline that Gus got fired and move right on to “who is the next head coach going to be?”.

If the casual fan doesn’t know he was extended, they aren’t paying attention to him getting fired. They’ll just see a new person on sideline eventually.

 

[mattropolis]

Why does everybody say we can't afford a $12 million buyout? Utter non-sense. Certainly not optimal but that's the stakes at the highest levels.

https://www.blackandgoldbanneret.co...was agreed upon that,new TV contract kicks in.

"It was agreed upon that UCF, Cincinnati, BYU, and Houston are to receive a fixed lower share of approximately $18 million in 2023-2024 and $19 million in 2024-2025 from the media deal, and then get a full share starting in 2025-2026, after the Big 12’s new TV contract kicks in. The payouts for these four schools are to come from the payouts the remaining eight were receiving from ESPN and Fox. To make up for it, the eight would then recoup those funds from the exit fees of Texas and Oklahoma, per CBS’ Dennis Dodd."

Once we get to the 2025-26 season, UCF — and the other 15 schools — get full drops. The final annual revenue total under the new media deal with ESPN and Fox would push into the range of $50 million per school. The new deal will run from 2025-31 and include a Grant of Rights provision."

 

[ucffan642]

Malzahn doesn't need Mohajir, he is all set. However, Mohajir is not getting $12 million if he gets fired, he doesn't have a $20+ million buyout from Auburn. If he gets exposed for running UCF into the ground he's at best getting a job that will pay 1/2 as much. He has a lot to lose.

That’s the correct approach. Mohajr needs to be fired immediately!

 

[Yaes]

I never bought into Malzahn, but you weren't going to can him after 2 years, and then you couldn't can him after our 1st year in the Big 12 and the recruiting success he had. This was the year, in my eyes, where we had to actually show the results on the field, and we're not seeing it.

With the extension in place, I think it'd take something crazy, like we don't win another game this year, to see Malzahn get the boot.

I don't think it matters what happens. Gus the Bust isn't getting the boot!

 

[LoboCane]

I don't think it matters what happens. Gus the Bust isn't getting the boot!

He wants the $12M and is not going to walk away…simple as that.

Bianchi is an idiot but he knows about this:

 

[Knight59]

Malzahn doesn't need Mohajir, he is all set. However, Mohajir is not getting $12 million if he gets fired, he doesn't have a $20+ million buyout from Auburn. If he gets exposed for running UCF into the ground he's at best getting a job that will pay 1/2 as much. He has a lot to lose.

Exactly why he needs to fire Gus. If he continues to support Gus and what once was a very competitive football program continues to crash and burn, he will be labeled as not being able to handle a power conference school’s athletic department. He needs to put up or shut up or he will be demoted in his next position. No one is going to reward him right now for what he has done at UCF.