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It was also close because Of LSU struggling in the red zone. All 4 of their FGs were <30 yard attempts - if half of those get converted for TDS, it’s a complete blowout.TOP wasn't an issues last year against a weaker schedule and led by a star QB. TOP was an issue when said QB was gone and competition was tougher. The argument of TOP wasn't a big deal for Fiesta Bowl because it was an 8 point loss. It was an 8 Point loss because 10 points were scored where the offense didn't gain a single yard.
I’m going to hurt you.
Just looking at the average defenses he faced......he played against 8 ranked teams several of which had top 10-12 defenses. The point has been made that BW has played against more highly ranked defenses than any other ND QB since Brady Quinn......and yes the other considerations are significant as well....
So far, it APPEARS that Frost called better passIing plays for the offensive personnel, but things could change.
Facing good defenses isn’t an excuse for missing open throws. He also had a two top 10 picks on his OL and one of them is an all pro as a rookie.Yep...I noted that right after he signed...and I "assumed" this review (haven't had time to read it) would must definitely have used that information as well.
DYK: Wimbush's midseason replacement this year did not face ONE Top 45 Defense until the CFP Semi-final game....where ND scored just 3 pts.
Kind of late...ever notice in the NFL, HC's changed QB's many times when they have a very favorable match-up? (i.e. helps set up the new QB for success).
I absolutely knew that you or someone else was going to throw the 12-1 and 6th ranked argument at me.
That’s actually a very weak argument, because once we lose another game or 2, because of the reasons that I have described, all of those wonderful stats mean nothing practically and all can get thrown into the toilet.
Doing an offensive season recap. Going to have all individual performances. But primarily an going to look at Heupels situational PC, personnel usage and that good stuff in order to explain the value of analytics in understanding what’s best in situations for the offense.Wait...are you saying there’s more coming??
Looking forward to this next one! I'm really interested in finding out if our offense is more successful with 2 RBs or 2 TEs on the field after the full season.Doing an offensive season recap. Going to have all individual performances. But primarily an going to look at Heupels situational PC, personnel usage and that good stuff in order to explain the value of analytics in understanding what’s best in situations for the offense.
If anyone is interested about anything I’ll include it as well. Should be done Tuesday
Both... a lot more than 1-1-3 too and that was used like 67% of the timeLooking forward to this next one! I'm really interested in finding out if our offense is more successful with 2 RBs or 2 TEs on the field after the full season.
Any idea why that is? Does it confuse defenses presnap or is it something post? Does it matter where RBs are presnap? Or is this impossible to tell?Both... a lot more than 1-1-3 too and that was used like 67% of the time
While its a gamble (Heupel likes to throw deep much more so than Frost), many miss out on the point is that threat/style helps teams play DEEP, which opens up a lot more running lanes...as evidence by UCF's great success in 2018 in running the ball.
It all matters really. Just like any other sport, you're trying to create an advantage in your matchups.Any idea why that is? Does it confuse defenses presnap or is it something post? Does it matter where RBs are presnap? Or is this impossible to tell?
I keep hearing this, but there is absolutely no hard evidence to say that a coach’s 2nd year offense is going to be better than the first year.Sounds like you are ONLY comparing Frost's 2nd year (and the player's 2nd year) offense with Heupel's FIRST year offense.
UCF took a large step up in Frost's 2nd year...while in Heupel's first year...the team was extremely successful.
I’ll take those Oregon offense teams anytime. Even when they were beat, it was rare and generally close.You live by the sword and you die by the sword. If our offense is running as designed then we will have terrible TOP but great offensive production. There is a reason Frost recruited small, faster players. First, we cannot compete with most P5s for those bigger players and second to offset that we needed to be fast and spread out. We are not built to slug it out. There is a reason that Oregon was never able to win a NC. Eventually they would bump up against a team that could hang athletically on D and smash them on O. It is part of the problem with the high tempo offense. But as long as we score more than the other team it does not matter,
So when the offense is tops, TOP is bad, by its very nature. So to say we need better TOP while still maintaining the high octane offense I don't get it. When the offense sputters then you have a problem. That has not really been an issue at this point, and in the AAC I don't see it being an issue for a while.
I keep hearing this, but there is absolutely no hard evidence to say that a coach’s 2nd year offense is going to be better than the first year.
It may very well happen. However, there are different players (especially at QB), different opposition, and there is now lots of film as well that they have on Heupel’s offense. There were many times this year that the offense seemed stalled or out of sync. If this continues without the proper adjustments, we will have issues next year.
The long bomb offense strategy may be the greatest thing ever, but it has a high failure rate. That’s all I’m saying
I keep hearing this, but there is absolutely no hard evidence to say that a coach’s 2nd year offense is going to be better than the first year.
It may very well happen. However, there are different players (especially at QB), different opposition, and there is now lots of film as well that they have on Heupel’s offense. There were many times this year that the offense seemed stalled or out of sync. If this continues without the proper adjustments, we will have issues next year.
Sounds like you are ONLY comparing Frost's 2nd year (and the player's 2nd year) offense with Heupel's FIRST year offense.
UCF took a large step up in Frost's 2nd year...while in Heupel's first year...the team was extremely successful.
NOTE: While its a gamble (Heupel likes to throw deep much more so than Frost), many miss out on the point is that threat/style helps teams play DEEP, which opens up a lot more running lanes...as evidence by UCF's great success in 2018 in running the ball.
Sure its a different style than Frost (who liked a shorter passing game), but both can and are successful.
2 different ways to skin a cat.
Good point. Many forget the questionable calls Frost made his first year.
You live by the sword and you die by the sword. If our offense is running as designed then we will have terrible TOP but great offensive production. There is a reason Frost recruited small, faster players. First, we cannot compete with most P5s for those bigger players and second to offset that we needed to be fast and spread out. We are not built to slug it out. There is a reason that Oregon was never able to win a NC. Eventually they would bump up against a team that could hang athletically on D and smash them on O. It is part of the problem with the high tempo offense. But as long as we score more than the other team it does not matter,
So when the offense is tops, TOP is bad, by its very nature. So to say we need better TOP while still maintaining the high octane offense I don't get it. When the offense sputters then you have a problem. That has not really been an issue at this point, and in the AAC I don't see it being an issue for a while.
It is normal to lose a game or 2 each season. We have been very very spoiled. The only game that we were not able to control the line of scrimmage in the last two years was LSU.