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Milton....

Practices were open to those who attended one of the UCF football fantasy camps for 3 days...like I did.

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Jk, so then you have all the deets bro, spill it!

Who was the most effective at running the WildKnight?
 
Oh wow. That's cool. I speak for everyone here, we except a full recap, like how I use to provide Practice Reports. Please start your own thread. [smoke]

For me, the camp was one of those bucket list items. I was surprised when UCF offered it, and I felt like it was a once in a lifetime type deal. It was 3 days I will never forget.

After camp I felt that Holman was the strongest QB and felt he would become the starter. Milton and Patti are very similar. Patti is a real cool customer. Patti and Milton are both very mobile, and I felt that Patti was just as accurate passing the ball as Milton, but after seeing Patti throw against Michigan, that may not be the case. But I will stand by my observation that Milton has the fastest release of all the UCF QBs.

For three days I was #72 on the UCF roster. But do I really need to start a thread about it?

http://www.wftv.com/sports/ucf-host-inaugural-fantasy-camp_20160903225328/436664279
 
Holman is the only qb on our roster and he just doesn't look right. However he has healed, his velocity has been effected. Patti is a backup... He is a massive negative for the passing game ( as if we don't have enough problems already). Play the kid if he is the best option. We can be concerned about not burning some kids redshirt 2 or 3 yrs from now when we have more depth and talent. For now he might be all we have. It could get ugly if Milton plays but all we should care to see this year is us edecuting better from one week to the next.
I hope not. If he does that a sign that none of our QBs are any good. Which I don't think is the case.
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I hope not. If he does that a sign that none of our QBs are any good. Which I don't think is the case.
 
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Jk, so then you have all the deets bro, spill it!

Who was the most effective at running the WildKnight?

I was impressed with Trysten Hill, the RBs Hamilton & Killins, with the Griffin Twins, & Pittman. Lots of good LBs. I saw that Holman can do damage with his feet, but I suppose he never had the chance under O'Leary's scheme. As a football scout I am just an amateur, but I just wanted to let Honors know that I was an actual observer...that my opinion is based on something tangible.

I was very impressed with SF as a HC and will all of the assistant coaches. SF is a strong, steady leader who gives the impression he has been a HC for quite some time. He seems to be perfectly suited for the position of HC. IMO, he is a motivated visionary who has great character and capabilities. He is on a mission...a championship mission. He is one guy who will absolutely not accept losing. He pushes the envelope every day.

SF was a champion as a player and I expect he will become a champion as a HC. He has some serious leadership skills. He is a smart guy. He is one of those rare individuals who can juggle 100 balls at the same time. He is a great communicator/teacher and best of all he puts the welfare of his players above everything else. He views himself as the servant of his players.

But SF is not the only good HC in the FBS. There are many of them. It is a competition.
 
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For me, the camp was one of those bucket list items. I was surprised when UCF offered it, and I felt like it was a once in a lifetime type deal. It was 3 days I will never forget.
For three days I was #72 on the UCF roster. But do I really need to start a thread about it?
http://www.wftv.com/sports/ucf-host-inaugural-fantasy-camp_20160903225328/436664279
That is so cool! Really special. My only thrill was playing DLine in touch football in the graduate intramural league, sometimes against some former college QB. Even they had super quick releases. Guess it doesn't count that I played bridge against the UCLA/Charger football coach, Tommy Prothro. ;)
 
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Why are people so afraid of burning a redshirt? You all think he's the best QB recruit we'll get in the next 3 years? He won't be
If he can't beat out a bad Holman I hope all of our qbs transfer out and we get 4 more next year. If offense is going to look bad, may as well play the youngest one.
 
thanks for the intel @GardenStateUCFan

My opinion on Holman is that healthy or not the sample size is large enough to make the conclusion that he is most likely will be one of many QBs in the past that look like Tom Brady in Practice but never put it together consistently in Games. He always has bad body language when things start rough in games. A lot of fans just have Holman fatigue.

Milton could be bad at first but can our QB numbers get any worse right now?
 
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thanks for the intel @GardenStateUCFan

My opinion on Holman is that healthy or not the sample size is large enough to make the conclusion that he is most likely will be one of many QBs in the past that look like Tom Brady in Practice but never put it together consistently in Games. He always has bad body language when things start rough in games. A lot of fans just have Holman fatigue.

Milton could be bad at first but can our QB numbers get any worse right now?

Even in practice I felt that Holman was not a consistent passer. He has a very strong arm and throws short passes like bullets. He is accurate most of the time, but sometimes he misses pretty badly, and as hard as he throws, it is not easy to catch his short route passes. But in practice he looked like the most confident leader and he actually looked like the most dangerous runner. Also, with his strong arm, Holman has the most ability to stretch the field with long throws.

I thought DiNovo, Kruczek and Harris were very good passers, but Patti and Milton are quite good as well.

The advantage for Patti, Milton and Holman is their ability to run. I am sure that is important for SF's offense.
 
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Why are people so afraid of burning a redshirt? You all think he's the best QB recruit we'll get in the next 3 years? He won't be

I think people are missing the point in all of this. I don't think anyone is worried about him having an extra year of eligibility. I think we are concerned that he is not ready yet. People on this board are knee jerk reactionaries. The coaches obviously are not. If they decide Milton is ready, then I am good with it, put him in. But people here want to put him in even if the coaches don't think he is ready simply because the alternative has not done well. the season is going to be mediocre at best. Why risk damaging a potential asset simply because you don't have the patience to wait.
 
I think people are missing the point in all of this. I don't think anyone is worried about him having an extra year of eligibility. I think we are concerned that he is not ready yet. People on this board are knee jerk reactionaries. The coaches obviously are not. If they decide Milton is ready, then I am good with it, put him in. But people here want to put him in even if the coaches don't think he is ready simply because the alternative has not done well. the season is going to be mediocre at best. Why risk damaging a potential asset simply because you don't have the patience to wait.

Yeah, this is it. Obviously if he's ready to be a starting QB at this level and can take the pounding that goes with it then he should start. There are reasons to question that is the case. He's what, 18 years old? 5'11" 170lbs? Been on campus, which is many thousands of miles away from home, for a few months? Been in this offense for a few months? I don't care about the eligibility, but I don't want his mind and body broken this early because we ran out of other QBs.
 
For me, the camp was one of those bucket list items. I was surprised when UCF offered it, and I felt like it was a once in a lifetime type deal. It was 3 days I will never forget.

After camp I felt that Holman was the strongest QB and felt he would become the starter. Milton and Patti are very similar. Patti is a real cool customer. Patti and Milton are both very mobile, and I felt that Patti was just as accurate passing the ball as Milton, but after seeing Patti throw against Michigan, that may not be the case. But I will stand by my observation that Milton has the fastest release of all the UCF QBs.

For three days I was #72 on the UCF roster. But do I really need to start a thread about it?

http://www.wftv.com/sports/ucf-host-inaugural-fantasy-camp_20160903225328/436664279

That's awesome! Good to see Ron out there!
 
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I think people are missing the point in all of this. I don't think anyone is worried about him having an extra year of eligibility. I think we are concerned that he is not ready yet. People on this board are knee jerk reactionaries. The coaches obviously are not. If they decide Milton is ready, then I am good with it, put him in. But people here want to put him in even if the coaches don't think he is ready simply because the alternative has not done well. the season is going to be mediocre at best. Why risk damaging a potential asset simply because you don't have the patience to wait.

Wow! somebody gets it.
 
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Yeah, this is it. Obviously if he's ready to be a starting QB at this level and can take the pounding that goes with it then he should start. There are reasons to question that is the case. He's what, 18 years old? 5'11" 170lbs? Been on campus, which is many thousands of miles away from home, for a few months? Been in this offense for a few months? I don't care about the eligibility, but I don't want his mind and body broken this early because we ran out of other QBs.
There would of beeb a really good chance he would have started against Michugan had he gone to Hawaii like originally planned. Plus I think it's a real possibility he is going to play against Maryland if not start.
 
There would of beeb a really good chance he would have started against Michugan had he gone to Hawaii like originally planned. Plus I think it's a real possibility he is going to play against Maryland if not start.
If the coaches think he can play, he will play. Holman is hurt and sucks and Patti isn't any better

We may have 10-12 new QBs that are at least as good as Milton in the next 3-4 years.
 
These days burning redshirts isn't a big deal. If the guy ends up being great he leaves after sophomore season like Winston or Junior year like a day 1 starter. If FSU starts Winstin from day 1 they have another championship. If we start Bortles from day 1 we may have had 2 great seasons. You are either good or you aren't. Very rarely does a first year starter in college go from terrible to great in their 3 or 4 years.

Even if Milton is "great" his size will keep him here 4 years.
 
Yeah, this is it. Obviously if he's ready to be a starting QB at this level and can take the pounding that goes with it then he should start. There are reasons to question that is the case. He's what, 18 years old? 5'11" 170lbs? Been on campus, which is many thousands of miles away from home, for a few months? Been in this offense for a few months? I don't care about the eligibility, but I don't want his mind and body broken this early because we ran out of other QBs.
But isn't that why any freshman quarterback starts, because he is better than all the others? And I would venture to say that most freshmen who do are approximately 18 years old.
 
If Milton is ready and Holman is a no go, then you play Milton. If he isn't ready, then you go with what you got. Hopefully Holman will be ready to go. There have been a lot of good QB's come through this league the past couple of seasons or so who started as a Freshman and played really well. Temple's QB started playing about half way through his freshman year and they immediately became a much more competitive team. Paxton Lynch started as a freshman for Memphis and while they didn't win many games that season, they were competitive in most games and it helped propel them to a share of the conference championship the next season. While Milton may be new to this offense, he ran a very similar offense in high school. Right now there are probably two things holding him back- the verbage and the speed of the game. The only way the game slows down is to actually get in the game. By this point I would expect him to have the verbage down. As far as reading the defense, probably isn't much worse than anybody else we have at this point.
All of that aside, it doesn't matter who plays QB if we don't fix the back end of the defense and special teams. The quickest way to lose a game is on special teams. Hopefully they spent some time on those issues this week. I don't expect to beat Maryland, but this game should be more competitive than last week. Limit the big plays in the passing game, fix the issues on special teams and I give us a punchers chance against Maryland.
 
Did anyone truly believe Frost when he named Holman the starter and said that he would remain the starter for whole year???

Yeah sure coach.
 
Did anyone truly believe Frost when he named Holman the starter and said that he would remain the starter for whole year???

Yeah sure coach.
The Holman apologists did. I didn't think Holman was consistent enough 2 years ago. It's gotten worse.
 
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Not necessarily. Manzeil didn't stay all 4 eligible years. Think he had 2 years left.

Manziel redshirted his first year though. That year gave him time to learn the system fully, I know Milton ran a similar in HS but there's a huge difference in that and college. The redshirt year also allowed Manziel to build up his strength so he can survive the hits he was going to take with how much he ran. We saw with Godfrey what can happen to a small QB who gets hit a lot, he wasn't the same after his Freshman year. He helped us win a lot but his style changed after that and he wasn't the same, a year in the weight room would've benefited him but things turned out better for us in the long run.
 
Dinovo did make the trip and there is proof in Brandon's second half photos. He is number 14 on the sideline wearing a gold hat and headphones.

Ok, thanks for clearing that up. Some seemed quite sure he was not there. So my original point sort of stands in light of the news that broke overnight - we're potentially an injury to Milton away from seeing Pete. Let's hope it doesn't get to that point. Go get 'em, MM!!
 
Truth be known we all want SOMEONE to step up at QB. Milton was best QB in state.
He'll get a legit shot at some point.

What was Daunte rated as in High School at QB position? He started for us as freshmen.
Boy was that fun to watch :) The receivers sucked that year.
 
Truth be known we all want SOMEONE to step up at QB. Milton was best QB in state.
He'll get a legit shot at some point.

What was Daunte rated as in High School at QB position? He started for us as freshmen.
Boy was that fun to watch :) The receivers sucked that year.
Didn't we have Siah Burley and Charles Lee? They didn't suck. Plus Marquette Smith and Collins at RB.
 
Manziel redshirted his first year though. That year gave him time to learn the system fully, I know Milton ran a similar in HS but there's a huge difference in that and college. The redshirt year also allowed Manziel to build up his strength so he can survive the hits he was going to take with how much he ran. We saw with Godfrey what can happen to a small QB who gets hit a lot, he wasn't the same after his Freshman year. He helped us win a lot but his style changed after that and he wasn't the same, a year in the weight room would've benefited him but things turned out better for us in the long run.
Main point was if they are good they don't stay all 4 years anyway. If they aren't good you can look for replacements. Hoping Milton plays well tonight so we can stop looking.
 
Main point was if they are good they don't stay all 4 years anyway. If they aren't good you can look for replacements. Hoping Milton plays well tonight so we can stop looking.

Huh? You ALWAYS look to sign better and better players each and every year...including QB.

If Milton has a great game tonight...that's wonderful...but Frost (already has 2 QB verbals) knows he needs QB recruits every year...as one can never predict injuries, off the field issues, those that just don't perform well at the next level, etc...

Frost (and any HC) will look for QB replacements each and every year...as you never know which one will "get it" at the college level.
 
Huh? You ALWAYS look to sign better and better players each and every year...including QB.

If Milton has a great game tonight...that's wonderful...but Frost (already has 2 QB verbals) knows he needs QB recruits every year...as one can never predict injuries, off the field issues, those that just don't perform well at the next level, etc...

Frost (and any HC) will look for QB replacements each and every year...as you never know which one will "get it" at the college level.
I think he means this season, for a starter, not in recruiting.
 
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