my Covid journey

[Crazyhole]

You just don’t get it. Your natural immunity has limitations. It’s not perfect. Viruses are all different. Some are more virulent and some mutate into more indolent or more deadly strains.

That’s why there is a COVID-19 pandemic and not a common cold pandemic.

Every common cold virus started out just as virulent as covid. If you don't believe me, see if you can get approval to visit isolated tribes in Indonesia and South America by their governments. The germs you've been exposed to that just give you a runny nose will kill them.

 

[Crazyhole]

There are vaccines for them that are effective. You can’t even spell eradicated

Once again, I can’t have an intelligent conversation with someone that has shit for brains. Waste of time

Lol, grammar nazis are the lowest form of debaters.


I'm allergic to the pertussis vaccine so I only got one dose of it as a child. I got whooping cough 23 years later. Tell me how that is possible if people aren't still spreading it around even though 99.999% of them are vaccinated for it?

 

[Ucfmikes]

Every common cold virus started out just as virulent as covid. If you don't believe me, see if you can get approval to visit isolated tribes in Indonesia and South America by their governments. The germs you've been exposed to that just give you a runny nose will kill them.

Nope. Not the cold. The flu. The North Sentinel island people.

 

[Ucfmikes]

Lol, grammar nazis are the lowest form of debaters.


I'm allergic to the pertussis vaccine so I only got one dose of it as a child. I got whooping cough 23 years later. Tell me how that is possible if people aren't still spreading it around even though 99.999% of them are vaccinated for it?

Just forget it. You’re not worth the time to explain the basic childhood vaccinations to. Basic immunology. Read about it

 

[Crazyhole]

Just forget it. You’re not worth the time to explain the basic childhood vaccinations to. Basic immunology. Read about it

Hey, since you're the expert I was just asking the question of how I could catch a disease that 99.999% of the population is vaccinated against. If that frustrates you, fine. Just don't act like you really are an expert.

 

[UCF11and1]

There it is. The hyperbole of comparing Covid to ebola.

But since you are a genius in all of this, tell me what good your antibodies are against covid exposure if you put yourself in a plastic bubble and never allow yourself to be exposed to it again? Why get the vaccine in the first place if you're just going to isolate yourself from society?

The vaccine (and natural immunity) is like a bulletproof vest: just because you are wearing one you don’t go out there during a shootout because a bullet can find a weak spot

 

[Crazyhole]

The vaccine (and natural immunity) is like a bulletproof vest: just because you are wearing one you don’t go out there during a shootout because a bullet can find a weak spot

If the bullets only had a 2% chance of killing you this would be a great analogy.

 

[anon_b4966fbpvwqmx]

Allegedly the combination of IgA+IgG+IgM antibodies from natural immunity, such as recovery, are 27x more effective those of IgG-predominate, blood-bourne mRNA vaccines. I'm sure there are different ways to 'slice' how they came up with that number, but the fact remains ...

Those with mRNA vaccine jabs do NOT get sterilization in their upper respiratory tract, and spread it almost as much, or in the case of Delta, just as much as the unvaccinated, even asymptomatic, or possibly not infected at all.

Those with natural immunity, especially post-recovery, spread it 1/10th as much, or less.

The CDC, obviously, didn't want to talk about this, as they feared less people would get vaccines, and the US Media are 3rd graders, so they don't even remotely understand how any vaccines work, much less mRNA for SARS-CoV-2. But the US NIH and, to its credit (especially as of late) WHO, actually have a lot of great info.

The Israelis (Pfizer-heavy) have been even better, as have the UK NHS (Pfizer-heavy with some Adenovirus AstraZeneca), just usually later than the Israelis.

Indeed.

Please stop spreading misinformation. None of what you said is true. The vast majority of patients hospitalized for COVID are unvaccinated. Maybe get a legitimate doctorate degree instead of one from google before posting things like this.

Coronavirus Disease 2019

CDC provides credible COVID-19 health information to the U.S.

www.cdc.gov

New COVID-19 Cases and Hospitalizations Among...

COVID-19 vaccine effectiveness against hospitalizations was stable, but it declined against new infections among adults in New York during May–July 2021.

www.cdc.gov

See the Data on Breakthrough Covid Hospitalizations and Deaths by State (Published 2021)

Coronavirus cases that send vaccinated people to the hospital or cause death have been relatively rare, a New York Times analysis of state data shows.

www.nytimes.com

 

[anon_b4966fbpvwqmx]

Anybody with an account in the dungeon knows BK is batting 1000. Woke tools like yourself and our clueless do nothing doc here not doing too good

You don’t need a vaccine especially after serious illness. But we don’t have to argue, immunity can be confirmed through a blood test

Not true at all. Vaccine protects against multiple variants. Natural immunity does not. What is your degree/ profession?

 

[anon_b4966fbpvwqmx]

There have been like a dozen studies now including the latest bombshell out of Israel that showed it's not even close between natural vs vax immunity.

Now will you need a boost eventually if you aren't constantly building t-cell immunity to new variants? Maybe. But as of now, reinfections of naturally immune are lagging waaaay behind vaccinated breakthrough infections. In fact if you jab over a robust natural immunity, not only do you risk serious injury or death, you risk putting your entire immune system out of whack

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CDC is not a legitimate source but some random Twitter guy is? Have your heard of confirmation bias?

 

[Ucfmikes]

Hey, since you're the expert I was just asking the question of how I could catch a disease that 99.999% of the population is vaccinated against. If that frustrates you, fine. Just don't act like you really are an expert.

Read about childhood vaccines (that one specifically) and basic immunology (which you obviously didn’t take in college because it’s not required in your field of study ) and get back to us) obviously.

Maybe Jeremy will have the patience to explain it to morons like yourself, even though you will follow it up with a never ending barrage of other stupid questions.

I never said that I’m an expert. Who comes to the WC for EXPERT advice other than imbeciles like yourself who don’t know ANYTHING? You’re once again, just looking for attention

 

[Crazyhole]

Not true at all. Vaccine protects against multiple variants. Natural immunity does not. What is your degree/ profession?

Why would a vaccine that only includes 1 protein give wider protection than natural infection that exposes you to all of the proteins in the virus?

 

[UCFBS]

Please stop spreading misinformation. None of what you said is true. The vast majority of patients hospitalized for COVID are unvaccinated. Maybe get a legitimate doctorate degree instead of one from google before posting things like this.

Coronavirus Disease 2019

CDC provides credible COVID-19 health information to the U.S.

www.cdc.gov

New COVID-19 Cases and Hospitalizations Among...

COVID-19 vaccine effectiveness against hospitalizations was stable, but it declined against new infections among adults in New York during May–July 2021.

www.cdc.gov

See the Data on Breakthrough Covid Hospitalizations and Deaths by State (Published 2021)

Coronavirus cases that send vaccinated people to the hospital or cause death have been relatively rare, a New York Times analysis of state data shows.

www.nytimes.com

[/QUOTE] You're literally NOT listening to the data, especially out of Israel. You're literally assuming what I'm talking about which had NOTHING to do with what I'm talking about! It has NOTHING to do with the simpleton Pro-vax v. Anti-vax debate.

And now we have PROOF that the mRNA vaccines REDUCE post-infection anti-body build-up and other, natural immunity. Yes, some vaccines actually INHIBIT natural immunity, so they are EXTENDING the pandemic!

The US NIH feared this in mid-2020 as the trials began, with only mRNA and deactivated virus vaccines being developed. The hope that the IgG-predominate mRNA vaccines would protect, while also letting infection still build-up IgA/IgM antibodies, is NOT coming true.

This is why vaccines that do NOT mirror natural immunity and recovery, and are NOT designed to reduce, let alone not stop, the spread can actually PROLONG a pandemic. Again, this is what the US NIH feared without a real, sterilizing vaccine.

Comparing SARS-CoV-2 natural immunity to vaccine-induced immunity: reinfections versus breakthrough infections

Background Reports of waning vaccine-induced immunity against COVID-19 have begun to surface. With that, the comparable long-term protection conferred by previous infection with SARS-CoV-2 remains unclear. Methods We conducted a retrospective observational study comparing three groups...

www.medrxiv.org

QUOTE: 'Results SARS-CoV-2-naïve vaccinees had a 13.06-fold (95% CI, 8.08 to 21.11) increased risk for breakthrough infection with the Delta variant compared to those previously infected, when the first event (infection or vaccination) occurred during January and February of 2021. The increased risk was significant (P<0.001) for symptomatic disease as well. When allowing the infection to occur at any time before vaccination (from March 2020 to February 2021), evidence of waning natural immunity was demonstrated, though SARS-CoV-2 naïve vaccinees had a 5.96-fold (95% CI, 4.85 to 7.33) increased risk for breakthrough infection and a 7.13-fold (95% CI, 5.51 to 9.21) increased risk for symptomatic disease. SARS-CoV-2-naïve vaccinees were also at a greater risk for COVID-19-related-hospitalizations compared to those that were previously infected.'

Stop treating me like an Anti-vaxxer and understand what I'm trying to say. This is the cost of mRNA vaccination, and the lack of developing a REAL vaccine, to combat SARS-CoV-2!

How many times do studies have to repeatedly point this out BEFORE people start realizing there is a give-take with an INCOMPLETE vaccines vector? Stop using 3td grader logic.

 

[Boston.Knight]

CDC is not a legitimate source

Are you serious? You really haven’t been following things very closely.

All of our public agencies are corrupt, compromised and captured . The Boeing FAA fiasco, the FDA approval of an Alz drug with no clinical efficacy. CDC/NIH same and even worse

^^^^ is the reason 🇺🇸 dead last in morbidity and mortality. Third world countries treating covid with herbs are kicking our asses up and down the field. It’s an embarrassment and epic failurehttps://www.fairplanet.org/story/madagascar’s-controversial-herbal-remedy-for-covid-19/

 

[UCFBS]

Thus is the reason 🇺🇸 dead last in morbidity and mortality. Third world countries treating covid with herbs are kicking our asses up and down the field. It’s an embarrassment and epic failurehttps://www.fairplanet.org/story/madagascar’s-controversial-herbal-remedy-for-covid-19/

Yep, the US seizing 'unauthorized' Traditional Chinese Medicine early in the pandemic, while both less and far more developed countries (e.g., Singapore) approving it -- and with the studies to back the benefits -- was a perfect example.

This crap happened during the AIDS pandemic as well. The US FDA was way too slow, and the US CDC was providing massive misinformation at times. Even Dr. Fauci spent 2 years pushing the same 'don't try/use' logic, until he finally 'came around' (which was earlier than many others).

Case-in-point: The first few years are usually a crapshoot of anecdotal studies, even when done en masse, because they only focus on 1-2 varibles. It's not until dozens of variables are re-factored that we start to understand the realities of what we're dealing with. That's why the 'Science!' still is NOT 'Settled.'

And now the Israeli's are pointing at data that INCOMPLETE vaccine vectors may be PROLONGING this, sadly enough. We protect people somewhat better from serious disease at the expense we're greatly REDUCING the body's ability to naturally build-up protections with infection.

 

[Boston.Knight]

....

You actually think your Twitter research is better than doctors going through medical school?

LOL, I do a whole hell of a lot more than "twitter research"., and yes I do know much more about how to treat covid, about the immunology , and the virology than our clueless MD friend. All he does is read a "protocol" and interpret some bio markers. You can have an AI robot that does better than that.

But your woke, brainwashed ass has been constantly wrong, and my scientific ass has been constantly right. But keep trying ad hominem attacks. Maybe someday you will raise your batting average above .000

 

[anon_b4966fbpvwqmx]

Why would a vaccine that only includes 1 protein give wider protection than natural infection that exposes you to all of the proteins in the virus?

I understand how you are thinking about this theoretically using basic immunology knowledge but the fact is the real world data is telling us that the vaccine offers much broader coverage than natural immunity. The vaccine was designed to form antibodies to a variety of spike proteins to account for antigenic drift. A recent study by Yale showed that people with natural immunity only developed a few antibodies to the spike protein whereas people who got the vaccine had at lease 10 different antibodies form against the spike protein

 

[Crazyhole]

I understand how you are thinking about this theoretically using basic immunology knowledge but the fact is the real world data is telling us that the vaccine offers much broader coverage than natural immunity. The vaccine was designed to form antibodies to a variety of spike proteins to account for antigenic drift. A recent study by Yale showed that people with natural immunity only developed a few antibodies to the spike protein whereas people who got the vaccine had at lease 10 different antibodies form against the spike protein

Science | AAAS

www.sciencemag.org

So this is incorrect?

 

[anon_b4966fbpvwqmx]

Science | AAAS

www.sciencemag.org

So this is incorrect?

yes. check your source. Search the opposite and you will find just as many magazines saying the opposite

 

[NinjaKnight]

LOL, I do a whole hell of a lot more than "twitter research"., and yes I do know much more about how to treat covid, about the immunology , and the virology than our clueless MD friend. All he does is read a "protocol" and interpret some bio markers. You can have an AI robot that does better than that.

But your woke, brainwashed ass has been constantly wrong, and my scientific ass has been constantly right. But keep trying ad hominem attacks. Maybe someday you will raise your batting average above .000

Please....seek professional help. I am not making personal attacks or anything like that.

You do not live in reality.

 

[Crazyhole]

yes. check your source. Search the opposite and you will find just as many magazines saying the opposite

I know. You can find an equal number of articles and studies on both sides, which is weird. The best argument I can find for vaccine over natural infection is that natural infection may only invoke an antibody response in the respiratory tract, whereas the vaccine invokes a stronger response in IgG and IgM antibodies.

My hunch is that vaccination followed by natural infection later is probably the most effective and safest path to immunity.

 

[Boston.Knight]

I know. You can find an equal number of articles and studies on both sides, which is weird. The best argument I can find for vaccine over natural infection is that natural infection may only invoke an antibody response in the respiratory tract, whereas the vaccine invokes a stronger response in IgG and IgM antibodies.

My hunch is that vaccination followed by natural infection later is probably the most effective and safest path to immunity.

What these tools fail to learn is the early indicators that MSM is ready to flip on a narrative. You could see it coming on the "lab vs natural" when NYT and CNN started messaging trial balloons. So while they quietly flip, bagholders like Ninja, Nathana, Jeremy and the other koolaid drinkers are left scratching their balls sitting in a cornfield alone defending the old narrative. Losing all credibility in the process

Well, the SAME EXACT THING is going on right now. BBC - the mouthpiece of the corrupt trusted news initiative is throwing it's trial balloon out there... Hey natural immunity is pretty good after all. Maybe we don't even need the vaccines Do you see where this is headed?

 

[Crazyhole]

What these tools fail to learn is the early indicators that MSM is ready to flip on a narrative. You could see it coming on the "lab vs natural" when NYT and CNN started messaging trial balloons. So while they quietly flip, bagholders like Ninja, Nathana, Jeremy and the other koolaid drinkers are left scratching their balls sitting in a cornfield alone defending the old narrative. Losing all credibility in the process

Well, the SAME EXACT THING is going on right now. BBC - the mouthpiece of the corrupt trusted news initiative is throwing it's trial balloon out there... Hey natural immunity is pretty good after all. Maybe we don't even need the vaccines Do you see where this is headed?

The media will never turn completely on vaccination. They make too much money in advertising dollars to go down that road. That being said, I could see a pullback of VACCINATE VACCINATE VACCINATE! coming from them as the pandemic wanes. They lead from behind and will be more than happy to move on to the next panic porn topic when this one has run its course.

 

[UCFKnight85]

I know. You can find an equal number of articles and studies on both sides, which is weird. The best argument I can find for vaccine over natural infection is that natural infection may only invoke an antibody response in the respiratory tract, whereas the vaccine invokes a stronger response in IgG and IgM antibodies.

My hunch is that vaccination followed by natural infection later is probably the most effective and safest path to immunity.

The best argument is that in order to get natural immunity (instead of a vaccine), you must become infected with COVID. This has gone terribly wrong for 650,000+ people with countless thousands more going to hospitals and suffering with long COVID.

The path to natural immunity is deadly for tons of people. The path to vaccination immunity is extremely safe outside of a few statistically irrelevant anomalies.

 

[Crazyhole]

The best argument is that in order to get natural immunity (instead of a vaccine), you must become infected with COVID. This has gone terribly wrong for 650,000+ people with countless thousands more going to hospitals and suffering with long COVID.

The path to natural immunity is deadly for tons of people. The path to vaccination immunity is extremely safe outside of a few statistically irrelevant anomalies.

There are different forms of immunity. From what I've seen, the vaccines don't invoke a mucosal antibody response, which is the first line of defense against respiratory viruses. Ideally, you would gain all forms without risking organ failure but it looks like that takes both vaccination AND natural infection.

 

[UCFKnight85]

There are different forms of immunity. From what I've seen, the vaccines don't invoke a mucosal antibody response, which is the first line of defense against respiratory viruses. Ideally, you would gain all forms without risking organ failure but it looks like that takes both vaccination AND natural infection.

I'm not a doctor and won't pretend to be one. What we've now seen with mountains of data is that vaccines help stem infection, do an insanely good job of keeping people out of the hospital, and an even better job in keeping people from dying. That is a far better outcome than gambling with infection to gain natural immunity.

 

[UCFBS]

Science | AAAS

www.sciencemag.org

So this is incorrect?

yes. check your source. Search the opposite and you will find just as many magazines saying the opposite

I have not seen a single article disputing this medRxiv study, or the many studies prior that have show IgG-predominate mRNA vaccines may be an 'incomplete vector.' Even the US NIH predict this could be the case over a year ago now.

I think you're getting confused, and think we're saying mRNA vaccines don't prevent serious disease. mRNA vaccines very much DO work, as designed! Their IgG-predominate anti-body generation was specifically designed to do such from the get-go!

But what has continued to be proven in study after study since 2021 April after the first, mass studies came back based on vaccines first hit late 2020, is that IgM and, even more so, IgA antibodies in the upper respiratory tract, are far, far more important.

The hope that IgG-predominate vaccines would allow a person to not get seriously ill, while at the same time -- as a result of infection -- build up the same IgA, IgM and other antibodies, while sterilizing the upper respiratory tract, is not looking to be the case.

Which is why the very common issue of having a SUBSET of vaccine vectors -- like mRNA and inactivated virus -- where ALL are an 'incomplete vector' approach, may actually end up prolonging the pandemic, even if they DO save more lives in the process. This is why the US NIH called for domestic vaccine R&D into an intra-nasal, live, attenuated vaccine vector, in the hope that it would be a more complete vector like natural immunity seen post-recovery.

This isn't a simple, 2-value evaluation. It's dozens of factors with hundreds of values. 3rd grader mentality is the only thing that says otherwise. Stop with the pro-vax v. anti-vax arguments, and learn what we're saying.

 

[UCFBS]

I'm not a doctor and won't pretend to be one. What we've now seen with mountains of data is that vaccines help stem infection, do an insanely good job of keeping people out of the hospital, and an even better job in keeping people from dying.

Stem some infection, yes. Otherwise this is all true, but it's also 'backtracking' from what you originally stated. Which brings me to ...

That is a far better outcome than gambling with infection to gain natural immunity.

A better outcome for individuals, yes. No argument.

A better outcome for the pandemic? That may not be true, and possibly the opposite. The lack of natural immunity as a result of having only a IgG-predominate vaccine vector is actually looking like it is actually prolonging the pandemic, even if an incompelete mRNA vector vaccine DOES save more lives.

The hope that IgA/IgM antibodies, especially sterilization of the upper respiratory tract, when vaccinated with IgG-predominate vector, is looking not only to be false, but there's now 0 reduction in spread with the SARS-CoV-2 Delta variant, when injected with a vector that generates SARS-CoV-2 Wuhan-1.

Which explains why Pfizer's CEO was broadly chastized by the CoV medical research community in July for pushing a Booster still using the SARS-CoV-2 Wuhan-1, instead of one updated with Gamma, Delta and/or Lamba at this stage.

This is the problem. We may be making things WORSE in some regards, let alone we still don't have an intra-nasal, live, attenuated virus vaccine that would be much closer to a FULL vector like natural immunity.

 

[UCFKnight85]

l o l

 

[hemightbejeremy]

Are there any proven therapeutics once Boston Knight had infected a thread and it starts to spread? Horse dewormer or something?

 

[Ucfmikes]

So., now we have 2 nuts invading the WC with absolutely no background in the subject matter. Embarrassing. They thought that they would come here as the path of least resistance when every other board has slammed the crap out of them

The world’s 2 most decorated experts in immunology, COVID and vaccines are now posting on the lowest level forum in the country

GOLDEN 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😊😂😂

 

[Ucfmikes]

Question? Do longer posts mean more than shorter ones or automatic win a debate? Do they mean that you know what you’re talking about? Or less even?

😂😂😂

 

[KnighttimeJoe]

So., now we have 2 nuts invading the WC with absolutely no background in the subject matter. Embarrassing. They thought that they would come here as the path of least resistance when every other board has slammed the crap out of them

The world’s 2 most decorated experts in immunology, COVID and vaccines are now posting on the lowest level forum in the country

GOLDEN 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😊😂😂

Neither has any background whatsoever and one has stated that they know more than people in the field of medicine because they share twitter stories.

Both are certifiably insane and need to be banned from the interwebs for their hands in assisted suicides.

 

[UCFKnight85]

I don't actually read BS's posts, I just scroll past and check out what color scheme he's going with today, how his usage of bold has accelerated, and how many additional words he's offering to go totally unread.

 

[UCFRogerz]

I don't actually read BS's posts, I just scroll past and check out what color scheme he's going with today, how his usage of bold has accelerated, and how many additional words he's offering to go totally unread.

Can you imagine screaming at the top of your lungs in a crowded room and being ignored? I also skip by everything he posts. I don't care if he's right or makes a good point or anything. He's tiresome.

 

[UCFBS]

Neither has any background whatsoever and one has stated that they know more than people in the field of medicine because they share twitter stories.

Both are certifiably insane and need to be banned from the interwebs for their hands in assisted suicides.

And yet we keep posting references to authorities and regulators.

Seriously guys, stop being 3rd graders with this all/nothing logic.

 

[UCFBS]

Can you imagine screaming at the top of your lungs in a crowded room and being ignored? I also skip by everything he posts. I don't care if he's right or makes a good point or anything. He's tiresome.

I admit I'm a 'Core Dump' at times. But I've predicted a lot because I do.

The same cabal calling me an idiot have repeatedly been wrong, and have been utterly backtracking. But go ahead and call me out, and not the ones repeatedly insulting us, call out those of us who have been proven correct, and not them.

Because I've continually detailed why the pandemic is not ending.

Thanks for shooting the messengers who provide the detail, and patting those on the back who do not. That's been the problem here. And why we're f'ing going down the tubes as a nation. Because we care about narratives, not facts, insults and not realities.

 

[anon_b4966fbpvwqmx]

I have not seen a single article disputing this medRxiv study, or the many studies prior that have show IgG-predominate mRNA vaccines may be an 'incomplete vector.' Even the US NIH predict this could be the case over a year ago now.

I think you're getting confused, and think we're saying mRNA vaccines don't prevent serious disease. mRNA vaccines very much DO work, as designed! Their IgG-predominate anti-body generation was specifically designed to do such from the get-go!

But what has continued to be proven in study after study since 2021 April after the first, mass studies came back based on vaccines first hit late 2020, is that IgM and, even more so, IgA antibodies in the upper respiratory tract, are far, far more important.

The hope that IgG-predominate vaccines would allow a person to not get seriously ill, while at the same time -- as a result of infection -- build up the same IgA, IgM and other antibodies, while sterilizing the upper respiratory tract, is not looking to be the case.

Which is why the very common issue of having a SUBSET of vaccine vectors -- like mRNA and inactivated virus -- where ALL are an 'incomplete vector' approach, may actually end up prolonging the pandemic, even if they DO save more lives in the process. This is why the US NIH called for domestic vaccine R&D into an intra-nasal, live, attenuated vaccine vector, in the hope that it would be a more complete vector like natural immunity seen post-recovery.

This isn't a simple, 2-value evaluation. It's dozens of factors with hundreds of values. 3rd grader mentality is the only thing that says otherwise. Stop with the pro-vax v. anti-vax arguments, and learn what we're saying.

How can vaccines prolong the pandemic when the vast majority of people getting hospitalized are unvaccinated? If everyone in the world got fully vaccinated today, the pandemic would be over tomorrow. Your logic makes no sense. Please stop

 

[UCFBS]

How can vaccines prolong the pandemic when the vast majority of people getting hospitalized are unvaccinated?

Exactly my point! 3rd grader f'ing logic! Is that short enough?!

If everyone in the world got fully vaccinated today, the pandemic would be over tomorrow.

Yet again, 3rd grader logic! Ugh ... when the uber-majority believe something like this, there is no hope at all. 'Everyone knows you idiot UCFBS!'

Your logic makes no sense. Please stop

Sigh ... when did we utterly become this uneducated and have mob mentality to believe such BS?!

EDIT: @Boston.Knight just posted a brand new, mainstream media (BBC) outlet that is finally asking what we're asking ... so this is 'easier to chew' for the masses than the 'raw' studies from authories and regulators.

Even trusted new initiative main mouthpiece bbc has started pivoting . They know a loser hand when they see one. I hope all you tools can learn something from this ongoing corruption and scientific rot coming from CDC and our public agencies

Covid: What’s the best way to top up our immunity? - BBC News

Now we have some protection, do we need to keep boosting or can nature take its course?

www.bbc.com

 

[anon_b4966fbpvwqmx]

I admit I'm a 'Core Dump' at times. But I've predicted a lot because I do.

The same cabal calling me an idiot have repeatedly been wrong, and have been utterly backtracking. But go ahead and call me out, and not the ones repeatedly insulting us, call out those of us who have been proven correct, and not them.

Because I've continually detailed why the pandemic is not ending.

Thanks for shooting the messengers who provide the detail, and patting those on the back who do not. That's been the problem here. And why we're f'ing going down the tubes as a nation. Because we care about narratives, not facts, insults and not realities.

The pandemic is not ending because people are not getting vaccinated you moron