O'Leary A Miserable Recruiter!!!
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Number 3 to toilet in two weeks is better than 10 to toilet in 2 years? You are really reaching.
You know what happened to him? They fired his ass for sucking. O'leary should be fired for sucking too.Number 3 to toilet in two weeks is better than 10 to toilet in 2 years? You are really reaching.
anon_x731qvsnsyb8i
Diamond Knight
I'm REACHING?
Go look at USF's recruiting class and then ours and post both of them here...now which teams have more openings? NEXT?
BAD RECRUITING...therefore, COACHING! I'm pretty sure that's factual.
Taggart
2013 - Better Recruiting - Toilet Bowl
2014 - Better Recruiting - Toilet Bowl
2015 - Better Recruiting - Toilet Bowl
GOL
2013 - Bowl
2014 - Bowl
2015 - Bowl
Are you trying to support my arguments? I'm so confused.
Oh please stop with this USF #2 to toilet in two weeks falsehood. They finished 21st to end the 2007 season.
Boise is guaranteed 6 wins a year because all teams get nauseous on that blue turf... plus they play in an easy conference and against western schools. They don't have the distractions of hot girls or anything fun to do, so they get to focus on football. If the team loses, they are forced to sleep with the local chicks as motivation. And the refs have to ensure Boise wins or they are buried beneath the blue turf after the game.
Boise is always under investigation. But no one wants to go out there to investigate.
The world of college football has changed drastically since the days of FSU as an independent. UCF went it alone for many years that was like drifting in the desert. UCF football did not do anything until it finally joined a conference and then not until it joined CUSA. UCF was a desolate wasteland of football. No identity other than the team that would go anywhere and play anyone and put up a fight for 3 quarters and then be forgotten the next week.
We are an emergency plan for conferences. Nobody is going to add us unless they have to. It is where out program is. What people fail to recognize is that we were not even on the radar until 2005.
Again we did not get into the Big East earlier because of basketball. The Big East was a basketball conference first and was controlled by schools who did not even have football programs. It would not have made that much difference had we beaten a few more P5 teams (a term that did not exist at the time) What really hurt us was that we did not have conference affiliation earlier. You realize that until we beat Alabama in1998 we had not beaten a P5 team at all.
So a program that is always under investigation has managed to hire 4 winning coaches over 20 years? How the fukc do they do that?
The Boise State program is probably one of the top 10 wonders of the world at this point for all the reasons stated above.
anon_x731qvsnsyb8i
Diamond Knight
Not to mention they were hit with scholarship reductions and survived a couple years ago also...
GOOD COACHING!!! IN THE MIDDLE OF FUGGIN POTATO-LAND!!!
I'm going to go eat me a potato now...might bring some good luck. Need all we can get...for several years.
Is lying on your resume considered cheating? I know a coach that did that.
Can you just admit that Boise State has been more diligent in hiring coaches that will bring true talent to the program and have been able to be successful at that for almost 20 years?
17 winning seasons in a row for Boise, O'Leary has had 6 losing seasons in 13 years. But he is such a good coach, right?
anon_x731qvsnsyb8i
Diamond Knight
See previous post. They survived their sanctions...UCF didn't....and Boise is in FUGGIN IDAHO
Are you saying UCF didn't cheat? I think one of the former staffers/coaches used runners...I'm pretty sure that's factual.
I really think you are being willfully dense at this point. I'm going to go take a nap, you're boring.
Basketball used runners. Football offered a mom a job. It was our AD. We were on probation for texting out of time. Our problem here is we don't even cheat well. If you are going to cheat then make it good.
Not true. There are lots of people who support, I am just a vocal one. Call me the Firm BIz of the huggers.
The truth is I have been a fan long enough to know that a coaching change does not automatically alter the course of a program. If you think long term you will know that GOL still gives the program status, even in the face of a bad season. Unlike Taggart for example who brings nothing to the USF program in the face of a bad season.
The moment you fire GOL that status is gone and we are left with nothing but a possibility. More importantly the odds are that that new coach will struggle with the same recruiting problems, lack of P5 status and will not top what GOL has done here in the last 5 years. Is there a chance that we will land the next big upcoming coaching guy? Maybe, bit not likely as everyone is looking for the "great white buffalo" (name that quote)
Let me go on record by saying that 1) I don't like GOL as AD. Bad Idea. 2) I don't like Brent Key as OC or coaching in waiting. That experiment has failed and 3) GOL needs an exit strategy in the next 2-3 years. But having a bad season, even and 0-12 season does not merit his firing and to do so would be a PR blunder as well. If GOL wants to step down so be it. But he has done way too much for this program to summarily dismiss him at this point.
How about 2 winless seasons? Lot's of coaches are summarily dismissed after winning.
What about multiple conference championships and a BSC bowl victory? Same logic. Go back and pick out what you like. It is the what have you done for me lately mentality. Well, as of just last year we were back to back champs. He has earned a pass for a bad year. He will need to use this year to find a cure.
There have been many coaches who have been fired after achieving more. What have you done for me lately. Right now, hurting the program. Not to mention all the baggage. If he were clean, I might give him the benefit of the doubt.
So coaches have been fired for achieving more so what. That does not make it the right decision. You have to look at the impact on the program for the long run and the possible ramifications. Right now the program is hurting and coaching is part (not all) of that. GOL has earned the right to correct the ship.
anon_x731qvsnsyb8i
Diamond Knight
It doesn't make it the right decision. It makes it the ONLY decision. Change is needed...starting at the top. UCF has everything to beat out Boise State...but a team. This is a big problem. Potato-land is more interesting to recruits...Patti went there. Right? Likely because of a winning tradition I would venture a guess. He only came to UCF because...of a coaching change!!!
Therefore...COACHING. We need a new one. 0-12= gone. Done. Bye. This season will be that way. 2-10? Gone. 3-9? Bye bye. 4-8? Bye. None are acceptable TWICE...
COACHING IS ALL OF IT!!!! COACHES ARE RECRUITERS!!! RECRUITERS ARE BRINGING SHITTY TALENT AND COACHING THEM LIKE SHIT!!!!! O'LEARY IS IN CHARGE OF ALL OF THAT BOTH AS THE HEAD COACH AND THE A.D.!!!!!! HOW THE FUKC IS IT NOT ALL COACHING?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Jesus fukcing Christ, people...
UCF was an up and coming program in the early 90s. They were on the cover of SI because they were predicted to win the Div 1AA title two years before they moved up to Div 1 now FBS. I didnt expect them to be world beaters but the intent when deciding to move up was to take advantage of being located in Florida and obtain the same success as the Big Three. Besides you and i both know about their closes losses to teams like South Carolina and Georgia and the halftime lead against Nebraska. Before UCF joined the MAC, they were 10-4 against them. As much as i wished they won a BCS/AQ game before 2000, they were trending upwards.
And isnt that why we hired George O'Leary? So he can change that perception of our program, to realize the success our other Florida schools have achieved? If we're really an emergency plan, why dump all this money into a new stadium and arena? I mean Memphis did nothing with the Liberty Bowl and backed into an invite. We're not paying GOL this money so we can be the joke of college football, the school who wants to pay a resume faker 2 million a year. We paid him this because if Notre Dame wanted him, then there must be a reason why.
As for this radar crap, where were you when Daunte Culpepper and UCF was mentioned in the same sentence on sports broadcasts and other shows because i heard it plenty of times. Where were you when Coach Kruz turned down the offer to coach Kentucky? Look i dont live and breathe UCF football, so if i know about information like that then UCF was a team on the map. The perception of us was a young up and coming program in a fertile recruiting area who will quickly overcome its obstacles. Say what you want about the end of 2003 and the redshirt burning of Steven Moffat, we had more potential as a young program then any of the "smaller" schools back then.
When the Big East conference football program started they invited four time national champions Miami to join. Oh yeah they had a great baskeball program back then. Look im not saying we win national titles, but I think if we held on to beat Nebraska on the road in 1997, held on to beat a crappy Auburn in 1998 and played in the Oahu bowl, beat Georgia on the road in 1999 and had some other losses go our way, the Big East wouldve overlooked our ambitious statements about joining the ACC and SEC and offer us an all school invite. Unfortunately we only had the 2000 victory over Alabama to hang our hats on.
Isnt this why we hired George O'Leary though? So we can right the ship of our past failures during the 2003 realignment? i thought thats what i read when he was hired. He's established some good things, but he hasnt really advanced us much since he was hired when it comes to results on the field except for one year. Whats sad is he couldnt even get his experienced laden 2014 team to beat a 7-5 young NC State team to end a great five year run for this program. He has only proven that he was lucky to be that good...otherwise his teams were rarely good enough to beat P5 opponents...and good enough to beat a weak conference.
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At the same time ... we did offer ourselves as a football-only invite back in the early '00s. USF did not.
It's ironic that the "Basketball Bitch of the Big East," USF, ended up being able to block us in the '10s with the Catholic-7, because they didn't want to "add another USF."
In any case ... it's nice to see I'm not the only person who remembers a lot of the past, and am asking people to give this season it's due course. People forget a lot of our history.
Ironic since we landed the most infamous one of all. If we can do it once, we can land them again.
Not at the salaries we're throwing out.
I mean, while we can produce some killer Playmates ... a 8 figure/year lingerie model is not something we can afford.
You sound like Trump ... throwing out a lot of crap, seeing what sticks when it hits close enough.
That's why I fear you guys. You fail to work within our limitations, let alone recognize our history. It's one thing to want to be P5, or have the continued success of Boise State as the top G5. It's a whole other thing to automagically assume it'll happen if we just get rid of GoL.
Kinda like how a lot of people want to get rid of the President and his party come November of next year. Frankly, I think he's hurt the 1st Amendment more than any President since FDR. But just replacing him won't automagically fix anything. In fact, if I'm a Republican, I don't want to run for President in 2016 ... I'll wait until 2020.
By your logic then we shouldve kept Coach K then. He coached Daunte, had a win over Alabama, was recruiting well but the program was having problems (3-9) and he got fired. Didnt he right the ship by suspending Ryan Schneider and Omar Laurance?
Interesting analogy. Because most of you guys are calling for at least Key to be fired immediately. Wouldn't that be more of the same?
