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Since he's no longer going to NC St. and will attend UCF shouldn't he be downgraded to a 2 star??
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Bud that's the 2004 class, pretty sure Sitton doesn't have any eligibility left.
He was just downgraded.Since he's no longer going to NC St. and will attend UCF shouldn't he be downgraded to a 2 star??
think UCF is still in play for this still uncommitted OT that visited on the 15th
http://247sports.com/Player/Jordan-Johnson-35008
http://247sports.com/Player/Jordan-Johnson-35008
I think he meant the 2004 class had 22 with 14 on the line, not 2014. He was referring to GOL's first class when he was hired, when they had a late start.
wasn't UCF in the MAC back then? The Program was in a completely different situation and in a conference with a much lower level of competition than the current AAC, Frost is not going to take any warm body just to get numbers up.
It works kind of like how betting lines are set in vegas for games. Certainly there is a degree of evaluation at the beginning, but as you get closer to game day/signing day it becomes more and more about balancing the books. The fans of big name schools pour a lot of money into rivals, espn, etc and they expect to see that their recruiting classes are elite. If rivals says they're marginal and ESPN says it's stellar, guess where they spend more time / money?
Since some recruiting classes are virtually full while others will get more verbals/signees by next Wed, here's a look at average star rating by program per latest ranking: (overall rankings also give points based on quantity, not just quality)
http://sports.yahoo.com/footballrecruiti...16/AAC/all
1) Houston 2.95 (20 recruits)
2) S. Florida 2.80 (15)
3) UCF 2.46 (13)
4) Temple 2.45 (22)
5) Cincinnati 2.44 (17)
6) Memphis 2.36 (17)
7) UCONN 2.29 (14)
8) ECU 2.21 (15)
9) Tulane 2.14 (18)
10) Tulsa 2.11 (18)
11) SMU 2.09 (23)
NOTE: Somewhat interesting to see these former P5 Offensive Coordinators struggling in Year 2 of their tenure.
Tulsa HC Montgomery was OC at Baylor and SMU's Morris was OC at Clemson.
Also, last year, UCF finished way ahead at the #1 recruiting ranking in AAC with an overall class average rank of 2.82 while the next team with a 2.60 was S. Florida
http://sports.yahoo.com/footballrecruiti...16/AAC/all
1) Houston 2.95 (20 recruits)
2) S. Florida 2.80 (15)
3) UCF 2.46 (13)
4) Temple 2.45 (22)
5) Cincinnati 2.44 (17)
6) Memphis 2.36 (17)
7) UCONN 2.29 (14)
8) ECU 2.21 (15)
9) Tulane 2.14 (18)
10) Tulsa 2.11 (18)
11) SMU 2.09 (23)
NOTE: Somewhat interesting to see these former P5 Offensive Coordinators struggling in Year 2 of their tenure.
Tulsa HC Montgomery was OC at Baylor and SMU's Morris was OC at Clemson.
Also, last year, UCF finished way ahead at the #1 recruiting ranking in AAC with an overall class average rank of 2.82 while the next team with a 2.60 was S. Florida
I think that underscores the importance of winning this year. I think both of these guys recruited well last year, but recruits seem to have less patience than even fans for results.
Tulsa did go 6-6 in the regular season (lost to Va Tech in a crazy bowl game 55-52), as Tulsa had a very good offense in the new "Baylor" system...and averaged 456 yds per game.
More shocked at their recruiting as of now vs SMU...which was a dumpster fire when Morris took it over.
UCF is the largest school in the Conference with arguably the best location, not comparable to Tulsa
Actually it was worse than it is now. We were in the MAC and not doing particularly well. Coach K was fired, there was no discipline in the program and we were in a downward spiral. We had gone 3-9 the year before beating only Buffalo, Central Michigan and FAU. O'Leary came in late and proceeded to have a heart attack, which hampered recruiting ability. What made it worse is that there was no foundation upon which to build. We had a few talented skilled players, but no lines and no depth at any position. We also had no history to speak of to work with.
We are coming off 0-12, but there is talent on the roster and a foundation in the program to work off of. There is no need for Frost to panic, but he will need bodies.
Its going to happen again in the next couple of days so get used to it. At least this guy was a JUCO. I am not crazy about JUCOs. Probably pretty talented but they never seem to work out for us.
that's a tough loss but if he played HS ball in the State of Texas it's not that surprising, going to really need a couple of those California/Arizona DTs/LBs to commit
247 has Kelvin Lucky committed to UCF, did he commit today?
nice pickup
http://247sports.com/Player/Kelvin-Lucky-85844
nice pickup
http://247sports.com/Player/Kelvin-Lucky-85844
Yeah, but the crazy thing about that 2004 class, with all the obstacles you mentioned, 2 players from that class STILL play in the NFL -- Josh Sitton and Leger Douzable.
In the early years GOL was good at getting raw, 2-star linemen who no one wanted and making them into NFL players. Sitton, Douzable, Torell Troup, Bruce Miller, Jah Reid, Troy Davis, etc. He lost that mojo as time went on.
Lucky. If this is true, it's huge. 6'7" DE that runs a 4.65 40 and can jump.
the link I posted above had Lucky as a Hard Commit last night but they changed it to 'favorite'
If we got Lucky 
that is a big get. Impressive offer list. I'm not as big on stars as I am in the offer list and he has some from top-notch programs.
that is a big get. Impressive offer list. I'm not as big on stars as I am in the offer list and he has some from top-notch programs.
@1ofTheseKnights I think Lucky played both TE and defense but is being recruited to UCF to play D
is that Coach Chinander in the black?![[laughing]](http://l.yimg.com/j/assets/img/emoticons/classic/laugh.r191677.gif "Laughing [laughing]")
this strong side DE is visiting but Nick Saban wants him so he would be a minor miracle
is that Coach Chinander in the black?
this strong side DE is visiting but Nick Saban wants him so he would be a minor miracle
ot but this news is not surprising wonder if Tre out of Viera reconsiders signing w ole miss
wonder if Tre out of Viera reconsiders signing w ole missot but this news is not surprising
right now Old Miss has the #4 ranked class. You know there is definitely a correlation between cheating and success. Just look at the amazing recruits we signed right before we got dinged for violations.
About time. Nobody found it unusual that Ole Miss suddenly started recruiting top 10 classes and 5 star players?ot but this news is not surprising
add in the very recent racial tension on that campus, it never made sense how so many top players want to go there
.Looks like the NCAA will protect the Golden Goose (SEC/Ole Miss Football) and instead bring the ban hammer on Ole Miss Track & Field instead.
The amazing recruits we signed? None played on our team and one guy QB D. Smith supposedly got a used laptop. Also, the person that represented him was never charged with any crime. Apples and oranges. I wish we had a class close to Ole Miss.
ot but this news is not surprising
USM has a tough time coming.
Shocking a team in Mississippi getting top recruiting classes is cheating. I'm shocked!!!
Ready to hear about Baylor next. They been getting amazing classes as a small Christian school. Better than Texas that everyone dreams of playing for in texas.
Ready to hear about Baylor next. They been getting amazing classes as a small Christian school. Better than Texas that everyone dreams of playing for in texas.
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