We had protests, no problems here.
Contact tracing has led to bars as sources of outbreaks. Most experts agree outdoor activities are low risk and you need prolonged exposure to an infected person to be infected via aerosol. Also being intoxicated reduces inhibitions and can lead to failure to follow coronavirus prevention guidelines. Believe me if they were linking outbreaks to outdoor activities including protests you would hear about it from the President. The fact is they haven’t linked it to that. In early studies with over 300 known hotspots, only 1 was traced to an outdoor gathering. So while technically both bars and outdoor gatherings are capable of spreading the virus, one is much much higher risk.
% of new cases?
Young people were definitely tied to the outbreak in Orange County. Particularly those that attended a place called Knights Pub. Presumably this was some sort of protest, but I haven’t looked into it.
Logically that makes sense but the results disagree.
No its not you moron. They've said from the start indoor confined spaces are much more dangerous than outdoors. You cant drink a beer with a mask. You can hold a sign with a mask.
also people are not sitting still in one space for 2 hours, that also helps
You don’t think Baby Trump DeSantis would love to go that route but didn’t? It’s bc they are not being traced back to the protests yet. Bars in South Tampa were slammed right when they opened
the beach closures are only for the holiday weekend as far as I know ..bc they know the crowd will get out of hand unless it storms
This is why. Since restaurants and stuff remains open, they are closing the beaches in some areas to avoid massive crowds. If you want to just go chill at a beach there are many options around the state. The closures are in areas with lots of retail and restaurants traffic. Also there is no statewide closures. Just localized.
You are absolutely right in the bolded part and I couldn't agree more. The gaslighting that is occurring by saying that protests where people stood shoulder to shoulder for hours, not including planning and staging or after activities is astonishing. The willingness of people that otherwise dig into topics to just accept that this narrative because "there are no studies that show" is surprising. There are no studies that show that bears crap in the woods either, but it's obvious.
What is the narrative? That outdoor spread is less likely than indoor? Particularly doing an activity where a mask can be worn (protest) vs one where it cannot (drinking in a bar). The only semi valid point is it’s going to be hard to contact trace a gathering that doesn’t have a particular location and easily identifiable group of people with whom there was an interaction. I’m pretty sure they can ask people if they have been in any outdoor gatherings. They can ask if they have been to the open theme parks right? I don’t see those closing at this point due to outbreaks.
As far as I know they aren’t limiting gatherings. Just closing the beaches. It could have to do with things that can actually be implemented. Again, there is nothing stopping people from going to the many beaches that will be open this weekend. They just won’t have bars and restaurants to go to after.
There is pressure on elected officials to take steps toward getting back to normal. With that in mind, outdoor > indoor. People aren’t staying at home forever. But going to a beach, park, or Universal is better than a restaurant or bar. The reality is that yeah any public interaction has some risk to it. But it is impractical to think we can ban everything. The logical thing is to start by allowing things that are low risk. Mainly through evidence that those activities haven’t been explicitly linked to a large spread. We tried with bars until the spread was specifically linked to bars.
I am not saying that the protests were risk free, that there hasn't been a major outbreak linked to them yet.
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