The questioning would be through a study that shows that outdoor gathering are high risk for coronavirus spread. Not just shaking your fist in the air in disagreement.Yeah, who could POSSIBLY question a paper on a RESPITATORY virus done by an ECONOMIC organization that's NOT even peer reviewed?
Lap it up jizz junkies!
I’m not condoning anything. Just telling you that one is higher risk than the other. Not that either is zero risk. We have shut down bars because in addition to being high risk, it is more enforceable than a general ban on all gatherings.
I mean the people infected. Early open states are getting crushed. Late open states are ok for now.
You can have outdoor scenarios where rate of transmission is less than indoor situations. All outdoor situations are not the same. Outdoor has a number of variables when it comes to transmission of biological (or chemical) agents and it's not the end all and be all of the answer. Things like temperature, wind, humidity, terrain, cloud cover, wind stability, and presence of sunlight all have dramatic effect on the dispersion models that we use in the CBRN world when doing hazard modeling and consequence management. The probability of infection/probability of contagion algorithms also take into account exposure time, protective measures and known r0 of the virus. I can run the same V&V'ed advanced models on our systems right now that the military and federal governments use that show an alarming rate of transmission from the protests given that they occurred at night in warm and dry weather conditions and involved people without PPE training and minimal PPE equipment associating for hours and hours in close proximity performing anything from minimal to strenuous activity. The narrative that protests didn't spread and don't spread is false. The reason that the media is running with it is that the government is quite simply not looking for it and actively avoiding looking for it in many cases.
You mean the Forbes article that just reported on the findings of a study...funded by the Koch brothers? Best believe if they found a link they would be shouting it from rooftops and Faux News would have it as the top headline.
For as long as the media needs ratings and there is no other story that moves the dial more. People who have no clue are faithfully devoted to the words of other people who have no clue as if it were a religion. At least some people listen to epidemiologists, but even they will contradict each other because the majority of their knowledge about any novel virus comes after the virus has run its course.
We aren't even at the level of this being the flu anymore. This is the common cold.
Suggesting the virus isn't dangerous and nothing to worry about is a self-defeating message. It's messages like your gem that has caused our country's new infection spike.
I hear ya. It didn't 'magically disappear' in April...or May...or June....BUT JULY??? THIS IS IT, BABY!!!
Listen to the board's virologist, Crazyhole!!! If we'd ignored this deadly virus from the very beginning, we'd be completely over it by now. Right, Jen?
I hear ya. It didn't 'magically disappear' in April...or May...or June....BUT JULY??? THIS IS IT, BABY!!!
Listen to the board's virologist, Crazyhole!!! If we'd ignored this deadly virus from the very beginning, we'd be completely over it by now. Right, Jen?
The day after he had a press conference to outline them -- and after I made a big deal out of telling you all that (trumpet fanfare) Trump's plan was a good, commonsense step forward -- he totally ignored them and began encouraging Governors to 'do their own thing.'
He told the press before announcing the plan that governors had the authority to call their own shots. Are you mad that he didn't enforce his plan on a national level?
You may be jumping the gun a bit on this one. Deaths lag presentation of symptoms by 20-30 days. If the mass transmission events were Memorial Day weekend and the protests the next week, then you see the first infections are 3-7 days from there, and the spike occurs with 2nd and 3rd transmission. Taking the median 5 days, that’s 15 days out of first week of June, which corresponds with the actual spikes that have been occurring. Take 20 days from June 20th and you should see a spike in deaths. So we should start seeing it towards the end of next week.
Deaths have been declining for weeks. Whether that's from improved treatment or a mutation doesn't really matter. The fact of the matter is that fewer and fewer people are dying and thats the only metric that matters. Of course, the current scare is "long term effects" which are entirely unquantifiable and irrelevant so that whole scare tactic needs to be ignored. Kind of like the "i knew a guy who drank 17 cokes in 3 minutes and BAM! 30 years later he died of cancer" type of thing. Unless the experts can prove some sort of causality, which they still have yet to do on a short term level, there's no reason to think this thing is something to be afraid of.
The ascent of the cases curve began roughly 3 weeks ago. In places like Florida which has been responsible for much of the uptick, the 7 day rolling average of deaths has started to climb again.
Not surprising, but still not cause for concern. You guys won't get anywhere near New Yorks numbers even with a larger population and more domestic travel. Same with California, Texas, and Arizona.
I don’t doubt the numbers will stay relatively low. Just have to be concerned with the record number of “pneumonia” deaths that are also occurring.
I wouldn't worry about it. Just take texas and California, 2 states that are diametrically opposed politically. If you land somewhere within the range of those 2 states its probably likely that the numbers are accurate.
The number of reported pneumonia deaths being high isn’t really a theory so much as an actual thing that is happening.
Pfizer said they could have it produced and ready for administration as soon as it get approved because they are on the fast track program. Their RNA vaccine showed higher antibody counts than in recovered covid paitents. Only side effect was fever and they are moving to a larger study group. Its a partnership with BioNTech and it has a ton of money and government backing.
