Ready for the clown show debate tonight?
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But none of it is true. Everyone has a problem with "liar" Hillary but Donald can say whatever he wants because it resonates?
Well..he has filed for bankruptcy 6 times. He has also had many documented cases of not paying his "workers and contractors". He has had many properties completely fail. His "University" was a sham.
Look - if you want to label Hillary as crooked and corrupt fine. But you cannot honestly sit there and tell me Trump is not just as corrupt and crooked.
No - I've openly admitted that I think Hillary is a bit crooked and shady.
A bit crooked and shady yet if I had mishandled classified information I would likely be in jail just like the sailor that had 6 classified photos on his phone. Six is much less than the number of top secret and higher classified information she had transmitted and stored on her personal email server.
What a joke.
Businesses fail. Bankruptcy is a mechanism to keep businesses from failing. There is little shady about a failed business. If Trump was such a business failure, why does he still have more pennies than you to his name? Opening businesses is risky and they fail, who gives a shit. You know who else doesn't pay their contractors? Practically every business out there has those problems. You don't pay for garbage work. You delay payment for other issues. Again, it is a mechanism that is used across the country.
But please, keep your head in the sand, it is safer down there.
Well - he started off way better than me. $14 million loan, but remember folks, it's just a "small" loan his father gave him. Come on y'all let's be real, politicians AND big business men tend to be a bit on the shady side. If you don't think there is buying off people and making back room deals everywhere, you're blind to how the world works.
Lucky for them, including the Clinton's, having a lot of money means you don't get in trouble as easily.
All politicians are shady AF. There is not a single one that I trust. THIS is exactly why Trump is doing so well. People see him as an anti-politician since he hasn't been doing this his whole life.
Backroom deals are OK in business, not in politics.
If 14M is a small loan, I would like a miniature loan.
It would be refreshing to see a true middle class person become president, through I suppose we'll never see that happen.
I am not a Trump supporter. I do see the benefit of having a president that has been something other than a career politician. Businessmen/women make decisions relatively grounded in reality. Career politicians do not.
Remember when Hillary and Obama laughed at Romney for calling Russia our biggest geopolitical foe?
Well bring on Mitt Romney then. Trump is considered a clown by a lot of businessmen/women, at least in the financial industry.
Hillary belongs in prison period . That's not in any way making a case for trump in the White House but that's not my point
I still can't believe I didn't take the over in that game Monday night, I mean Brees and Ryan and two shitty defenses, wtf was I thinking?
There are dozens of reasons why people and/or companies aren't paid for their work. If you hire someone to paint your house and they paint it pink instead of beige are you going to pay them?
I hate that shit but the bankruptcy laws allow it . I've had it done to me and don't like it
A lot of people close to Hillary committed suicide. There's a pattern there.
1. 6 bankruptcies: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...nald-trumps-companies-have-declared-bankrupt/
I guess bankruptcy is one way to "solve problems"
2. People like him buy companies using debt, the companies they buy usually have decent amounts of cash in their accounts. Being owners (or on the board) they pay themselves huge salaries and bonuses with the cash. When the company is unable to operate and pay back the debt, they file for bankruptcy, the company is destroyed and people lose their jobs. Rinse and repeat. For an example look at Zell and Tribune Company (Orlando Sentinel)
3. Taj Mahal (Trump's casino) closed in early September 2016. He wasn't in charge anymore because: "Having lost ownership of the company to bondholders in a previous bankruptcy, Trump resigned as chairman of Trump Entertainment Resorts, retaining a 10 percent stake in return for the use of his name. That interest was wiped out in bankruptcy court when Icahn took over in March." http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/04/taj-mahal-casino-closing-carl-icahn-says-he-lost-100m.html
Look - if you want to label Hillary as crooked and corrupt fine. But you cannot honestly sit there and tell me Trump is not just as corrupt and crooked.[/QUOTE]
You're serious right? Trump has started hundreds of companies, so six failed. Do you have any idea how successful that rate is, 50% of all companies started since 1990 have failed and considering five of those bankruptcies were casino related, that was not bad considering how casinos performed during that same period. He also declared chapter 11, not 13 not that I expect you to know the difference but let's just say everyone gets paid something in those cases. Would you consider Publix a successful company? Publix has over 1,200 stores, they have closed more than six in their history, I guess they are crooks as well. Also, I have worked with some of the biggest retailers in the world, all and I mean all of them have disputed construction charges that is how the business works.
One other note, to compare what Trump did to Hillary is laughable, one is against the law the other is not. You're candidate is on the wrong side of that one.
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You have no clue what you're talking about. It's done everyday in development.
Wrong again, Trump is not a leveraged corporate buyer, you're getting confused with Romney.
Where's does paying Pam Bondi not to investigate his University, I mean scam fit into that? He probably does that everyday too.
He gave money to Pam Bondi's political campaign, if Bondi dropped anything on trump that is on her not him. But you seem to think there is something wrong there, the NY AG who is going after Trump is a political hack who will be voted out before anything can happen. So disliked is he that even in NY he is in the process of being recalled.
