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The question is not how it directly impacts a vaccinated individual. It's how it impacts the health care system, and the ability for hospitals to provide care for everyone (not COVID patients). Reduced efficiency at a hospital impacts anyone that steps through those doors. Everyone is entitled to live how they want to live, but there is consequences that impact others. Those that had elective procedures delayed and those that waited in emergencies rooms longer than normal care. Nevermind the hospital staff that are burned out and getting sick because they have to be around a significant amount of infected patients continuously.

Everyone should do what's best for them, but I think an individual should reassess their decisions when circumstances evolve. The situation now is not the same it was in April 2020, and in 2022 it will likely be different than what it is now
There is a direct impact on vaccinated people: with so many unvaccinated people, the virus keeps circulating so the protection % gets challenged more times (a 1% chance of getting hit by a bullet sounds different if 5 bullets are fired compared with 200).

what you said is also true: I read some guy was shot 6 times a week ago and is still waiting to be operated on
 
The majority of people who want the vaccine have taken it. Those that don't want it have very good reasons for not taking it. Each person needs to make a decision for themselves. At some point we as a society need to let grown adults make decisions for themselves regardless of the outcome. If you are vaccinated why would you care if the person next to you isn't. Is it because you are afraid the vaccine won't work? I for one have been vaccinated. But, I will not say that everybody must get it. Nobody knows for sure the long term consequences of this vaccine that has been rushed for approval.
It’s because we all utilize the medical infrastructure and it is currently beyond strained because of unvaccinated people using up all resources. I’m less afraid of getting Covid. More afraid of having another type of emergency come up and facing 24 hour wait times to be seen and no beds in the ED.
 
The majority of people who want the vaccine have taken it. Those that don't want it have very good reasons for not taking it. Each person needs to make a decision for themselves. At some point we as a society need to let grown adults make decisions for themselves regardless of the outcome. If you are vaccinated why would you care if the person next to you isn't. Is it because you are afraid the vaccine won't work? I for one have been vaccinated. But, I will not say that everybody must get it. Nobody knows for sure the long term consequences of this vaccine that has been rushed for approval.
I agreed with this until unvaccinated patients have started occupying a vast amount of hospital beds.
 
The majority of people who want the vaccine have taken it. Those that don't want it have very good reasons for not taking it. Each person needs to make a decision for themselves. At some point we as a society need to let grown adults make decisions for themselves regardless of the outcome. If you are vaccinated why would you care if the person next to you isn't. Is it because you are afraid the vaccine won't work? I for one have been vaccinated. But, I will not say that everybody must get it. Nobody knows for sure the long term consequences of this vaccine that has been rushed for approval.
The healthcare system continues to be stressed. A friend's father had a heart attack yesterday and was taken the hospital. He needs to be transported to another hospital for better treatment, however, they are having trouble finding a hospital with open beds due to covid.

Let me add another reason. I have a child who is too young to be vaccinated. Due to others making an uneducated and selfish choice my son is now at higher risk.

Finally, viruses mutate. The longer covid bounces around between the unvaccinated the more it will mutate from the original strain. Each mutation can lower the efficacy of the vaccine.
 
One of the neighbor kids I grew up with just died from covid. His dad still mows my mom's lawn. Sad as hell. He was early 40s.
 
The majority of people who want the vaccine have taken it. Those that don't want it have very good reasons for not taking it. Each person needs to make a decision for themselves. At some point we as a society need to let grown adults make decisions for themselves regardless of the outcome. If you are vaccinated why would you care if the person next to you isn't. Is it because you are afraid the vaccine won't work? I for one have been vaccinated. But, I will not say that everybody must get it. Nobody knows for sure the long term consequences of this vaccine that has been rushed for approval.
The majority of people who want to drive sober do it. Those that don't want to have very good reasons for not. Each person needs to make a decision for themselves. At some point we as a society need to let grown adults make decisions for themselves regardless of the outcome. If you are driving sober, why would you care if the person next to you isn't. Is it because you are afraid your car won't work? I for one have always driven sober. But, I will not say that everybody must drive sober. Nobody knows for sure the long term consequences of not driving sober that has been rushed for approval.
 
The majority of people who want to drive sober do it. Those that don't want to have very good reasons for not. Each person needs to make a decision for themselves. At some point we as a society need to let grown adults make decisions for themselves regardless of the outcome. If you are driving sober, why would you care if the person next to you isn't. Is it because you are afraid your car won't work? I for one have always driven sober. But, I will not say that everybody must drive sober. Nobody knows for sure the long term consequences of not driving sober that has been rushed for approval.
Exactly. You are starting to come around.
 
The majority of people who want to drive sober do it. Those that don't want to have very good reasons for not. Each person needs to make a decision for themselves. At some point we as a society need to let grown adults make decisions for themselves regardless of the outcome. If you are driving sober, why would you care if the person next to you isn't. Is it because you are afraid your car won't work? I for one have always driven sober. But, I will not say that everybody must drive sober. Nobody knows for sure the long term consequences of not driving sober that has been rushed for approval.
Good analogy. This distorted perception of "freedom" -- that every individual is free to do whatever they want, whenever they want, regardless of the impact on their community, family or neighbors -- is completely unsustainable in a free, functioning society. All of our freedoms are subject to reasonable restraints when necessary to protect public health or safety. Those who believe otherwise should note that one of the most conservative Justices on the Supreme Court just rejected a challenge to Indiana University's mandatory vaccination rule without even sending it to the rest of the Court for consideration. Why? Because from a Constitutional standpoint this is not a difficult question!

To say that those who don't want the vaccine have "very good reasons" for not wanting it is an incredibly broad and likely inaccurate statement (with the exception of those who refuse the vaccine for legitimate health reasons). I believe Florida's vaccination rate is only about 50%. The 10 states with the lowest vaccination rates are all very red states, many of them in the South. This corresponds with polling that shows consumers whose main source of news are Fox News or Facebook are much less likely to get vaccinated. So do they have "very good reasons" or are they being influenced by misinformation? Are they listening to doctors or are they listening to Ron DeSantis as he sells "Don't Fauci my Florida" t-shirts at a campaign rally? We need to stop pretending that these are legitimate concerns, and admit that people are dying because they've been sucked into an idiotic culture war.
 
Loving that the unwitting willingly out themselves. It’s all on the record. Keep showing.
Since you are so certain that we are all being manipulated by a global conspiracy of doctors and scientists, I'm sure you have taken into consideration that much of the anti-vax messaging on the Internet originates with Russian bots, a practice they employed even before Covid-19 as a means to sow discord in the West. The American Journal of Public Health published a study on this issue in 2018, pre-Covid.

Facebook Removes Russian Network that Targeted Influencers to Peddle Anti-Vax Messages

Russian Disinformation Campaign Aims to Undermine Confidence in Phizer, Other Covid-19 vaccines, U.S. Officials Say

Russia Trolls Spreading Vaccine Misinformation to Create Discord

Twitter Bots and Russian Trolls Amplify the Vaccine Debate

Russian Trolls Fueled Anti-Vaccination Debate in U.S. by Spreading Misinformation on Twitter

Social Media is Feeding the Anti-Vaccination Movement
 
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Since you are so certain that we are all being manipulated by a global conspiracy of doctors and scientists, I'm sure you have taken into consideration that much of the anti-vax messaging on the Internet originates with Russian bots, a practice they employed even before Covid-19 as a means to sow discord in the West. The American Journal of Public Health published a study on this issue in 2018, pre-Covid.

Facebook Removes Russian Network that Targeted Influencers to Peddle Anti-Vax Messages

Russian Disinformation Campaign Aims to Undermine Confidence in Phizer, Other Covid-19 vaccines, U.S. Officials Say

Russia Trolls Spreading Vaccine Misinformation to Create Discord

Twitter Bots and Russian Trolls Amplify the Vaccine Debate

Russian Trolls Fueled Anti-Vaccination Debate in U.S. by Spreading Misinformation on Twitter

Social Media is Feeding the Anti-Vaccination Movement
Bravo, looks like you spent a whole hour compliling this list. But why? Does it make you feel superior? Are you exposing russian troll farms on a college football fan website?
 
Normal people. Let them keep outing themselves as what they are. It’s their best chance for libtard authoritarian control since the bs AGW scam collapsed and failed on the same failure of total bullshit data fake media bs. Hospitals lost their ass last year on the bottom line because of the fake bs where everyone avoided procedures. Now they realized a Covid bed drops to the bottom line. Gotta make it up. Total horse shit. Don’t fall for it.
It’s the same wanna be control you political people. Just let them spout. And out themselves. It’s all good. Life ain’t their month of omg crisis. That’s on them.
History is on the non alarmist non bullshit omg side. Every single time.
 
Normal people. Let them keep outing themselves as what they are. It’s their best chance for libtard authoritarian control since the bs AGW scam collapsed and failed on the same failure of total bullshit data fake media bs. Hospitals lost their ass last year on the bottom line because of the fake bs where everyone avoided procedures. Now they realized a Covid bed drops to the bottom line. Gotta make it up. Total horse shit. Don’t fall for it.
It’s the same wanna be control you political people. Just let them spout. And out themselves. It’s all good. Life ain’t their month of omg crisis. That’s on them.
History is on the non alarmist non bullshit omg side. Every single time.
What is this nonsensical rambling? Are you ok buddy?
 
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It’s because we all utilize the medical infrastructure and it is currently beyond strained because of unvaccinated people using up all resources. I’m less afraid of getting Covid. More afraid of having another type of emergency come up and facing 24 hour wait times to be seen and no beds in the ED.
Nope. Blah blah. At some point. Learn to rise above and. Look.
 
History. Choose your side.

Morons.

Or. Common sense. We see you.
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A 60 year old employed at my company who I’ve known for roughly 15 years, awesome guy, unvaccinated but not a senile asshole about it like this runawayknight, just died this morning from Covid. He was retiring this year. Shut your stupid mouth already, you’re an uneducated idiot.
 
Sheep. Gonna sheep. Weak ass sheep. Easy to spot in a crowd. When you have no life. Internet! Catastrophe.!!!!!! you idiots. Non scientists. Headline readers libtards non thinkers. Crack me up.

but. The headline said a study said xyz. So panic!!! I don’t feel sorry for you. But I absoutlutley laugh at you. Idiot. COVID believers. AGW believers. Bit I repeat myself. “ Oh on. My emotions believe. **** Science. Emotions should rule.”

idiots. At the end of the day Knight nation. We have taken a stand. A year from now. the normal silent majority people will be laughing at the outed big mouth spewing non science libtards on this board

it always ends that way. Saving this thread for in your ass I twelve months.
 
Sheep. Gonna sheep. Weak ass sheep. Easy to spot in a crowd. When you have no life. Internet! Catastrophe.!!!!!! you idiots. Non scientists. Headline readers libtards non thinkers. Crack me up.

but. The headline said a study said xyz. So panic!!! I don’t feel sorry for you. But I absoutlutley laugh at you. Idiot. COVID believers. AGW believers. Bit I repeat myself. “ Oh on. My emotions believe. **** Science. Emotions should rule.”

idiots. At the end of the day Knight nation. We have taken a stand. A year from now. the normal silent majority people will be laughing at the outed big mouth spewing non science libtards on this board

it always ends that way. Saving this thread for in your ass I twelve months.
Are you the ghost of SCK or something? The handful of people I know who have passed from the virus won’t be laughing a year from now. Dick.
 
Sheep. Gonna sheep. Weak ass sheep. Easy to spot in a crowd. When you have no life. Internet! Catastrophe.!!!!!! you idiots. Non scientists. Headline readers libtards non thinkers. Crack me up.

but. The headline said a study said xyz. So panic!!! I don’t feel sorry for you. But I absoutlutley laugh at you. Idiot. COVID believers. AGW believers. Bit I repeat myself. “ Oh on. My emotions believe. **** Science. Emotions should rule.”

idiots. At the end of the day Knight nation. We have taken a stand. A year from now. the normal silent majority people will be laughing at the outed big mouth spewing non science libtards on this board

it always ends that way. Saving this thread for in your ass I twelve months.
Bunch of gibberish bruv…Jesus man you are one drunk, crazy douche bag.
 
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