Rittenhouse trial is over before it begins

[sk8knight]

JFC, are you a woman by chance? You have an uncanny knack of totally ignoring what I said and turning it around.



So are you saying that you understand and can speak for all gun owners (myself included) instead?



I never said "anyone". Go back and reread. Never said anything about protecting "their" property. Rittenhouse was not protecting his own property. The fact that you can't understand the point I was making makes discussing this moot now. Go ahead and keep responding and digging yourself a deeper hole.

No, you said every gun owner trying to protect property for a riot is hoping for trouble. I can’t think of one gun owner that I know that feels that way. Regardless, I only needed one example to disprove your argument of every one.

Rittenhouse was found not guilty. I don’t have to prove anything.

 

[_glaciers]

No, from my experience with far-right wackos. It's ok to admit that I'm right. I won't think any less of you for toeing the company line.

I know it's not a gun, so don't bring that up, but it's a far-right wacko that was looking to hurt people.

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>jumping onto a car in the middle of the street that's going relatively high speed
>"oh no I've been killed"

we call this the Darwin Award Champion

 

[ElprofesorJuan]

Can't call them victims, you can call them rioters, looters, and arsonists.

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Can't have a crime without a victim.

After checking this all I can say is Proud Boys are supporting him..also many rught wing activists..He will get off...Judge Prosecution and others are idiots..Note u have already decided all looters are bad..Should we decide this kid is bad..Proud boys and white Supremacy people are pushing he is not guilty. Depending on what u are for. It's interesting Right wing and gun guys push his innocence....hehe it's why many of u are where u are

 

[Crazyhole]

Would this surprise anybody?

 

[Poolside Knight]

 

[The Branch]

You have to be dead above the neck to have watched even 5 minutes of that trial and thought he was guilty.

There is video freaking evidence and the prosecutions own witnesses might as well have been defense witnesses.

Nobody should have been there that night. But they were and that kind of crap happens when dudes are all hopped up on testosterone and start trying to pretend they live in a video game.

Why it took 4 days to decide? That is the mystery. I'm guessing there was 1 hold out that wouldn't let it go.

Lesson learned for the pedophile and the woman beater. They thought the guy with the AR was going to be as easy as the kids and women they were used to abusing.

 

[Cubs79]

I dont have an issue with the decision, though I certainly believe he knowingly and willingly put himself in that situation, so I am not going to pat him on the back either. The disgusting part of this, and more evidence of how we arent a serious country anymore, is all these Republicans making him into a hero. Three different congressmen have offered him an internship, which he doesnt deserve, and another congressman wants to make today a holiday. Agreeing with the decision is one thing, making him out to be a hero is embarrassing.

 

[Cubs79]

You have to be dead above the neck to have watched even 5 minutes of that trial and thought he was guilty.

There is video freaking evidence and the prosecutions own witnesses might as well have been defense witnesses.

Nobody should have been there that night. But they were and that kind of crap happens when dudes are all hopped up on testosterone and start trying to pretend they live in a video game.

Why it took 4 days to decide? That is the mystery. I'm guessing there was 1 hold out that wouldn't let it go.

Lesson learned for the pedophile and the woman beater. They thought the guy with the AR was going to be as easy as the kids and women they were used to abusing.

There is a video of Kyle beating up a woman too, so if that is something you care about, lets not give him a pass on that and make him out to be a hero.

 

[DaShuckster]

If they provoke the attack it’s Almost certainly not self defense. If they’re walking around in an open carry state and minding their own business, then your ire should be on the attackers not the people acting legally.

Walking around a protest with an AR-15 assault rifle is as provoking as it gets. That's what all these stupid 'open carry' and 'Stand your ground' laws have led us to.

 

[Cubs79]

Walking around a protest with an AR-15 assault rifle is as provoking as it gets. That's what all these stupid 'open carry' and 'Stand your ground' laws have led us to.

Our gun laws are insane, but America doesnt care about gun violence, we already know this.

 

[UCFKnight85]

So many people here upset that people can’t randomly assault people on the street and then also demand that the person being assaulted not engage in legal armed self defense.

Sorry. Self defense is legal.

 

[sk8knight]

There is a video of Kyle beating up a woman too, so if that is something you care about, lets not give him a pass on that and make him out to be a hero.

He’s not a hero.

 

[Cubs79]

He’s not a hero.

Plenty of people are pretending he is.

 

[DaShuckster]

Sorry. Self defense is legal.

The verdict was expected. Nobody here is shocked or the least bit surprised.

But it is a reminder that AT SOME POINT there needs to be legal consequences for provocative behaviors in public settings that can lead to violence. Bringing an assault weapon to a protest is literally asking for trouble.

 

[UCFKnight85]

The verdict was expected. Nobody here is shocked or the least bit surprised.

But it is a reminder that AT SOME POINT there needs to be legal consequences for provocative behaviors in public settings that can lead to violence. Bringing an assault weapon to a protest is literally asking for trouble.

Sorry, it’s not. You can’t just invent things and demand they be fact. He had a legal right to be there, the people rioting and looting did not.

Oh and lulz at “a protest”. Most “protests” don’t involve deranged lunatics roaming the streets to burn shit and beat people up.

 

[UCFBS]

Walking around a protest with an AR-15 assault rifle is as provoking as it gets. That's what all these stupid 'open carry' and 'Stand your ground' laws have led us to.

Rittenhouse never used 'stand your ground' (actually, Zimmerman didn't either).

Rittenhouse retreated, retreated again and again ... but you cannot see that.

You also cannot see how he was chased and even attacked, including by someone else open carrying, and even pointing at him. He didn't get shot until the last.

I swear there are so many people ignorant of firearms here.

 

[UCFBS]

The verdict was expected. Nobody here is shocked or the least bit surprised.

But it is a reminder that AT SOME POINT there needs to be legal consequences for provocative behaviors in public settings that can lead to violence. Bringing an assault weapon to a protest is literally asking for trouble.

You mean like the 3rd guy Rittenhouse shot?!

An 'assault weapon' includes automatic pistols, especially when they are 'displayed' like the 3rd guy was clearly doing while chasing Rittenhouse.

I swear your hypocrisy has no end. You have not equally applied your arguments to anyone but Rittenhouse at all, not the assults, not the pointing of guns, etc...

^ That right there is where 99% of people who wanted murder are utterly destroying their own foundation.

 

[_glaciers]

The verdict was expected. Nobody here is shocked or the least bit surprised.

But it is a reminder that AT SOME POINT there needs to be legal consequences for provocative behaviors in public settings that can lead to violence. Bringing an assault weapon to a protest is literally asking for trouble.

maybe if she didn't dress like a slut she wouldn't have to worry, right?

 

[DaShuckster]

maybe if she didn't dress like a slut she wouldn't have to worry, right?

She'd blow them away and claim self-defense.

 

[Crazyhole]

The verdict was expected. Nobody here is shocked or the least bit surprised.

But it is a reminder that AT SOME POINT there needs to be legal consequences for provocative behaviors in public settings that can lead to violence. Bringing an assault weapon to a protest is literally asking for trouble.

Legal consequences for doing something that is perfectly legal but makes you uncomfortable?

Talk about spirit of the age. You probably also think people suffer PTSD if they are misgendered.

 

[Cubs79]

Legal consequences for doing something that is perfectly legal but makes you uncomfortable?

Talk about spirit of the age. You probably also think people suffer PTSD if they are misgendered.

People being gunned down should make everyone uncomfortable, whether you agree with this decision or not. The hero worship part of this is what worries me, because it will lead to more of this.

 

[sk8knight]

Plenty of people are pretending he is.

They’re confused. For them, this verdict is a symbol of a rebuke of the unrelenting attacks on of 2A and self defense rights. But Rittenhouse is just an idiot kid and should be no one’s hero.

 

[sk8knight]

People being gunned down should make everyone uncomfortable, whether you agree with this decision or not. The hero worship part of this is what worries me, because it will lead to more of this.

That weren’t “gunned down.” They were violently attacking the kid and he shot them to stop their violent attacks.

 

[Crazyhole]

She seems nice.

 

[Cubs79]

They’re confused. For them, this verdict is a symbol of a pause in the unrelenting erosion of 2A and self defense rights. But Rittenhouse is just an idiot kid and should be no one’s hero.

The people I'm talking about arent confused. I am talking about Matt Gaetz and the like who want to give him internships and what not, and of course media figures. Agreeing with the decision is one thing, rewarding him for it is essentially a promotion of this type of thing. It does no one or the country any good to celebrate any of this. Its another sign that we are no longer a serious country.

 

[sk8knight]

The people I'm talking about arent confused. I am talking about Matt Gaetz and the like who want to give him internships and what not, and of course media figures. Agreeing with the decision is one thing, rewarding him for it is essentially a promotion of this type of thing. It does no one or the country any good to celebrate any of this. Its another sign that we are no longer a serious country.

I’m in agreement. Now, where do you stand on the memorials and statues and rallies for Trayvon and Michael Brown?

 

[Crazyhole]

This is why it's so hard to take the left seriously.

 

[Cubs79]

That weren’t “gunned down.” They were violently attacking the kid and he shot them to stop their violent attacks.

Dude, he was looking for trouble just as they were.

 

[Cubs79]

I’m in agreement. Now, where do you stand on the memorials and statues and rallies for Trayvon and Michael Brown?

I dont think memorials for dead people is remotely the same thing as rewarding someone who is still alive. Plus, those are more symbolic gestures. It isnt really about Trayvon, Brown, Floyd, etc as individuals, it is about the idea that they were treated unjustly, and the idea that black men are treated unjustly. Whether you agree or not, it doesnt change the fact that they arent going to cash in on anything because they are dead, Rittenhouse very likely will be rewarded in some way or another.

 

[Cubs79]

George Floyd has memorials and statutes. Let that sink in for a felon and a guy that pulled a gun on a pregnant woman.

And Kyle beat up a woman and now is getting internship offers. If you are going to judge Floyd based on those things, then shouldnt Kyle be judged that way too?

 

[DaShuckster]

They’re confused. For them, this verdict is a symbol of a rebuke of the unrelenting attacks on of 2A and self defense rights. But Rittenhouse is just an idiot kid and should be no one’s hero.

Seriously WTF??!? A rebuke of the 'unrelenting' attacks on the 2A and self-defense rights? Holy Hyperbole, Batman!

Ask yourself this question: Lay out the exact, same circumstances in this case but make the idiot a Black kid with an AR-15 out to protect and defend his fellow BLM protesters that night.

Do the police still wave him through their line of squad cars while bystanders are screaming he shot a bunch of people? Do the defenders of the 2A hold him up as their poster boy? Does the same jury render him the same innocent verdicts?

 

[Crazyhole]

Seriously WTF??!? A rebuke of the 'unrelenting' attacks on the 2A and self-defense rights? Holy Hyperbole, Batman!

Ask yourself this question: Lay out the exact, same circumstances in this case but make the idiot a Black kid with an AR-15 out to protect and defend his fellow BLM protesters that night.

Do the police still wave him through their line of squad cars while bystanders are screaming he shot a bunch of people? Do the defenders of the 2A hold him up as their poster boy? Does the same jury render him the same innocent verdicts?

Would an all black jury have rendered the same verdict for Kyle?

 

[UCFKnightfan08]

The verdict was expected. Nobody here is shocked or the least bit surprised.

But it is a reminder that AT SOME POINT there needs to be legal consequences for provocative behaviors in public settings that can lead to violence. Bringing an assault weapon to a protest is literally asking for trouble.

exercising your 2nd amendment right is not provoking anything just because you don’t like guns.

 

[Cubs79]

exercising your 2nd amendment right is not provoking anything just because you don’t like guns.

He knowingly and willingly put himself in a situation he knew could be violent, and he was prepared for it to be violent. Let's not act like this was a random home invasion or car jacking or just a wrong place at the wrong time.

 

[UCFKnightfan08]

He knowingly and willingly put himself in a situation he knew could be violent, and he was prepared for it to be violent. Let's not act like this was a random home invasion or car jacking or just a wrong place at the wrong time.

not arguing that at all. I don’t think he’s a hero and he shouldn’t have been there (same for the people he shot). Doesn’t change the fact that he did what he needed to do to survive.

 

[Cubs79]

not arguing that at all. I don’t think he’s a hero and he shouldn’t have been there (same for the people he shot). Doesn’t change the fact that he did what he needed to do to survive.

Thats fine, and as I have said, I dont disagree with the decision, but I do think the hero worship by some could lead to trouble. THe best thing for everyone is we talk about it today, and tomorrow we forget we ever heard of this kid, but I highly doubt that is going to happen.

 

[Cubs79]

I don't lose sleep over people looting and rioting if they die. 🤷‍♂️

Nobody is asking you to, but being that we are a country already on edge, maybe we need to tone down the rhetoric (on both sides) and just let this kid wade off into obscurity.

 

[DaShuckster]

He knowingly and willingly put himself in a situation he knew could be violent, and he was prepared for it to be violent. Let's not act like this was a random home invasion or car jacking or just a wrong place at the wrong time.

Was it a highly provocative? You bet!!! Was it a dangerous thing to do? Of Course it was!!! Could it lead to deadly violence? Absolutely!!!

But in the eyes of these 2A folks, showing up at a BLM protest rally with an assault rife was this stupid kid's God-Given RIGHT, baby! Screw the consequences!

 

[Crazyhole]

Was it a highly provocative? You bet!!! Was it a dangerous thing to do? Of Course it was!!! Could it lead to deadly violence? Absolutely!!!

But in the eyes of these 2A folks, showing up at a BLM protest rally with an assault rife was this stupid kid's God-Given RIGHT, baby! Screw the consequences!

Would an all black jury have acquitted Kyle?

 

[Crazyhole]

Lmao! How have I never seen this before?