but we can and have beat Pitt, very handily I might add, spanked em like a child.
Why are you still here again?
Serious G5 vs P5 question
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Why are you still here again?
Remove Clemson and the dead weight in the AAC, there isn't a difference in leagues except for money.
Mississippi State chanting "SEC SEC" at us after beating us in the Liberty Bowl 10-3 still sticks in my craw.
Really! that is what your going with for your argument? UCF was up on PITT 31 to 21 and PITT won the game on a last minute trick play. Do you realize how lucky PITT was to get that win. This game could have gone multiple ways for both teams? Also you seems to be forgetting if UCF is in a P5 conference they would be able to recruit P5 lineman to play a P5 schedule. You opened the door for this. "What has PITT done in the last 10 years?" Come back when PITT is relevant again.
Why are you relevant? Because you beat Auburn once? Big deal.
And what merit are you talking about? You have an overwhelmingly losing record against P5 teams. The sum total of your "merit" are wins against Baylor, Pitt, Maryland and a disinterested Auburn team. A handful of wins against mid-level P5 teams isn't merit. It's whining. You need to man up and adopt Boise State's "anywhere, anytime" attitude. Or keep playing YuckConn. Up to you. But it's not a cartel. You want admission to a major conference but don't bring a winning record against P5 teams nor the added revenues of delivering a full, new TV market. That's two huge strikes.
Bla bla bla. Were relevant because we play in a conference every bit as tough as yours, and have won more games, and bigger games than your team has the past 3 years, but possibly even decade. Were also relevant because were not a bunch of trashy losers who know they aren't going anywhere and have nothing better to do but troll those who are better than us. We also complemented and won graciously against that same team a year ago. Your irrelevant and need to do your team a favor and crawl back to whatever hole you came from.
To Pitt’s credit they beat Clemson one year and Clemson went on to win the NC recently. We were their super bowl this year and this guys acting like Delaware is a better team. Most of pitt’s fans that I’ve seen are a better breed than this clown.
This dude is trolling and winning because you’re responding. If everyone ignored him he’d go away. His momma only gives him so much internet time a day, and he chooses to spend it here because no one else listens to him. Please stop responding, and maybe after day 9, he’ll move on to smaller and worse things.
Weird as that was never a problem for Rutgers and Maryland for their joke invites to the Big Ten.
Heck...same goes for over half of P5 today (have losing records vs P5 teams).
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I don't know if you've checked your own record, but Pitt has a LOSING record of 29-34 against P5 teams since 2013.
Clearly a troll. Boise's motto isn't anywhere anytime. In fact UCF has more P5 games in the last decade than they do, but nice try. The anywhere anytime was Miami. We own over 50% of all conference hardware. When has Pitt won it's conference? You can talk about how the AAC is inferior but aside from Clemson, the AAC has plenty of teams that would compete with most of the ACC. Yet, it's done on a fraction of the revenue and notoriety.
The three things that irk me about that game the most...
1) the damn cowbells
2) not getting 24K the rushing record
3) THE DAMN COWBELLS
While I disagree about Pitt’s fans being “better breed” than this guy or gal (the fans sitting around us @ the game were total trash), I wouldn’t be surprised if he/she is actually a usf troll rather than actual Pitt fan.
The AAC has only won 7 of its last 24 games against the ACC...and none of those games even included Clemson. The ACC is a significantly better conference.
Would agree with this is there was legitimacy to the P5/G5 classifications other than being told that's where your team falls based on the conference. But, yes, agree and some not even "upper level" if all was an equal playing field in all aspects (recruiting, money, etc.)
Pitts Bowl games the last 11 years. I’ll just leave it here. No need to expand on it.
I'll just leave this here. No need to expand on THIS: Outscored 101-86 in the series. 1-2 against Pitt in the series. Six sacks and 12 TFL. And -- worst of all -- UCF chickened out of a road game and never showed up after the 52-7 beatdown at your place. You can't talk smack if you hide behind your AD's skirt and don't show up after you get slaughtered.
Why are we relevant? Because your bitch azz is over here constantly trolling. Your school made a T-shirt to commemorate beating us by 1 point. We have been ranked for the past 33 weeks and on the lips of national media and on the espn top 25 ticker. Now run along and play. Shouldn’t you be celebrating the big win over Delaware and trolling their forum now?
Objectively, would you say the ucf program that faced Pitt in the early 2000s (I think that’s when you played at the Citrus Bowl) is the same UCF program of today?
Can’t argue the cumulative record isn’t in our favor but I see us as much closer now than we were then.
The part where I disagree is the fact the Nebraska (using your example) would have a winning record with an AAC schedule. Recruiting in the Big 10 and playing an AAC schedule you are probably right, but if they played and AAC schedule that would mean they are in the AAC. How well do you think they would recruit in that conference? Who would want to go to Lincoln to play against the Tulsa and UConns of the world every year? That is why the "we could go undefeated with your schedule too" and on the flipside the "you couldn't play our schedule week in and week out" arguments are hilarious. If we hada P5 schedule, we would be in a P5 conference and therefore be rewarded with all the benefits that come with it (up to and including recruiting). All things being equal and I mean ALL things (i.e. Conference and all perks of it) and you are highly rated 4* or 5* athlete, would you rather go to school in Orlando, FL or Starksville, MS (for instance)? You know the answer. On the flipside if your school was in a Pondunk town and played in a G5 conference how well would you recruit? Imagine if Alabama or Auburn were in CUSA instead of the SEC. What would they look like? The answer is UAB. This is why P5 check cashers are afraid of us. We are in the center of the a recruiting hotbed but continually lose highly rated recruits (with our hat on the table) to teams that are P5, even shitty ones like UK. Imagine if we were P5 and imagine if they weren't.
I can't find the button to "Like" this enough times as it should be!
It was sad on day 3... this is a whole new level.
Do you think he's coming back? I think we pissed him off.
We didn't even have a football program until 2004. Prior to that we just had a football team that showed up and played games. We did not provide the support and facilities for success. There is a big difference in the way we handle our program from then until now.
Culpepper? No we had a team, and they did more than just show up and play. Albeit we weren't we we are now, but you start somewhere.
He meant that the UCF Administration wasn't all in big picture which from all accounts was true
Since he’s been here for 10 days, he has shown that he has nothing else in life to live for. I’ll be surprised if he’s not posting here in 2020.
Oh I 100% agree - as would anyone familiar with our program.
Was just curious what the Pitt guy thought since that’s a relevant consideration for the points he’s trying to make.
I get your point, but it's kind of a false equivalency. Put Nebraska in the MWC and yeah, we probably are competing with Wyoming and Colorado st for recruits, put UCF in the SEC and you're competing with Alabama for recruits. Obviously that makes Nebraska worse and UCF better, which is kind of the point of the thread. In general, the P5 conferences are better than the G5 conferences overall. That's not a slam, and I think UCF is already capable of competing with the P5 schools every week but that's the exception, not the rule.
Your proprietary National Championship indicator -- the Colley Matrix -- has you at #40.
As it should. It is a results based metric rather than a predictive metric. Similar to RPI, it is fairly useless until deep in the season. Welcome back though. Good to see we are still on your mind.
That is the point. Yes as a whole P5 conferences are better than G5 conferences, which is why I would be more than happy with an autobid for the best G5 champ in the playoff vs. all conference champions (but that is a different argument). Also yes if we were in the SEC we would be competing against Alabama for recruits, but they can't get them all. I am also sure we would win a battle or 2 with them because if you were an 18 yr old kid and (with everything else being even) had the choice to live in Orlando or Tuscaloosa where would you want to live? We win enough of those little battles against Alabama, Auburn, uf, Georgia, etc, all of sudden we are an elite team. Remember we are doing what we are doing with G5 stuff (i.e. no money and no path to the playoffs) which is why we have such high highs and such low lows. Imagine what we would do if the playing field was level? Also, again imagine what teams like Alabama would do with G5 stuff. There would be no Nick Saban, no SEC schedule or a chance at the "playoff", what would they have left to offer?
It’s hilarious how these national trolls think that it’s still 2017.
Nobody from UCF was claiming a national championship in 2018 and nobody was claiming that we were heeded that way this year
Yes, this year at this point we are 40th
Awesome
Pretty good considering we slum out the 2nd half every game. Why does any of this pertain to you. You eeked out a win with a crappy trick play when we played our worst game in 3 years every quarter. Get over it.
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