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So Trump will finally get out now, right?

I'm now hearing from a number of friends who are seriously considering skipping this part of their ballot and not voting for any of the POTUS candidates. I can't blame them.
Though for kicks, they should write in a candidate, if they can.

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When I hear people say that I just ask them if they can just close their front door for the next four years and not worry what is outside of it. Seriously, not voting is the dumbest thing one can do.
 
A few people are misunderstanding the outrage....they think it's the word pu$$y. No, the outrage is that he feels it's okay to kiss someone, or grab someone's private parts without consent, especially if one is a "star".

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Pretty much what I was getting at.
 
Trump Pence sign 2 doors down.

It's gonna happen.

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Everything you just said is nothing more than talk so I could care less.

Trump has either learned what he didn't know when he spoke about those subjects you mentioned or will be briefed in his weekly updates.

In reference to the military, I am worried zero. Trump will listen to and obtain guidance from his military advisors. If you are not military, or have never been in the military, as far as I am concerned, you have no voice when it comes to us.

BLUF: Everything HRC is accused of is something she has actually done.

Words vs action.

You have 4 choices.

1. Waste a vote
2. HRC
3. Trump
4. 3rd Party (reference back to 1.)

I already casted my vote and it sure the he'll wasn't for someone that intentionally mishandled classified material. Nor was it for someone that wants to reduce the military by an additional 43%, doesn't know a single foreign leaders name, or what Allepo is.

Vote for whomever you want, I don't give two shits.


Wait**** Let me make sure I understand one of your comments. You're worried that the Russians hacked the DNC and may have effected the electoral process only to discover that the DNC was cheating to effect the electoral process. Did I sum it up properly?

Bottom line. If you are dumb and ignorant enough to think that Trump would either get out or that Republicans can actually force him out. Well, I have some ocean front property in Nebraska to sell you.




I am willing to bet I have more at stake on who become POTUS/CIC than anyone in this useless thread. If you think I am not closely paying attention you are sorely mistaken.


Everything I said is right from trumps mouth, and you will blow it off now as.. "Well, he has asked people, so now he knows better"... seriously? He is a dolt. He is relying on his cult of personality to win an election and he has no clue. The guys I know in the military (retired officers with kids in the military) are scared shitless of this "candidate" and his know nothing approach. He will cost lives and $$$$$ more than Clinton. I will NOT make that gamble.
 
Everything I said is right from trumps mouth, and you will blow it off now as.. "Well, he has asked people, so now he knows better"... seriously? He is a dolt. He is relying on his cult of personality to win an election and he has no clue. The guys I know in the military (retired officers with kids in the military) are scared shitless of this "candidate" and his know nothing approach. He will cost lives and $$$$$ more than Clinton. I will NOT make that gamble.
Remember what they say about military intelligence...
 
what a circus...will go down as one of the most embarrassing election choices(R&Dems) in American History
 
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Everything I said is right from trumps mouth, and you will blow it off now as.. "Well, he has asked people, so now he knows better"... seriously? He is a dolt. He is relying on his cult of personality to win an election and he has no clue. The guys I know in the military (retired officers with kids in the military) are scared shitless of this "candidate" and his know nothing approach. He will cost lives and $$$$$ more than Clinton. I will NOT make that gamble.


Really? Interesting....I am curious why the military far and away support Trump more than HRC? Additionally, why there are close to 100 retired generals and admirals that currently support Trump?


Let me help explain to you why she is unfit to be POTUS and my CIC.


  1. Private email server with HIGHLY classified material on it. (ILLEGAL)
  2. Email Gate: Illegally mixing government and personal emails ultimately endangering national and state secrets
  3. After subpoena by the DOJ for articles in her possession, she had 33K emails deleted, 3 phones destroyed, 10 phones disappear, and 1 laptop disappear (ILLEGAL)
  4. Clinton foundations handling of Haiti (Several illegal scams)
  5. Benghazi: Committing Perjury or Lying Under Oath, leaving 4 americans to DIE
  6. Pretty much everything discussed in the Clinton Cash documentary
  7. Her husband’s rape and HRCs subsequent cover up of the rape.
  8. Her treatment of women that her husband abused due to his position of power. In an effort to discredit the women who charged President Clinton with sexual misconduct, she hired a PI to investigate and illegally obtain personal files and papers then released the information found.
  9. The Clinton foundation and its ties to pay to play
  10. The content from her speeches to Wall Street
  11. Pretending to be Under Fire in Bosnia when it couldn’t have been further from the truth.
  12. Her position on trade (NAFTA, TPP, BORDERLESS SOCIETY)
  13. Her failed reset with Russia
  14. Her flip flopping on Marriage equality (tell you whatever you want to hear)
  15. Hillary during Watergate Investigations: An “Unethical, Dishonest Lawyer”
  16. Whitewater
  17. Cattle Gate: Insider trading
  18. Her connection to many people that suddenly commit suicide
  19. China Gate
  20. IRS abuses
  21. Her view on pretty much society as a whole, deplorables, basement dwellers, her own supporters bucket of losers, black people super predators that need to come to heel
  22. Looting the White House, she took $190,000 in gifts and furnishings from the presidential mansion.
  23. Her poor judgment of who she surrounds herself with. Huma Abedin
  24. Her laughing about getting that child rapist off and destroying that little girls life
  25. Her taking money from foreign countries while SEC of State
  26. Her selling US uranium to Russia for millions into her Foundation.

The list goes on and on. Hillary Clinton is a criminal.
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When I hear people say that I just ask them if they can just close their front door for the next four years and not worry what is outside of it. Seriously, not voting is the dumbest thing one can do.
So, who do you choose when you feel the D & R candidates are morally void and violate your moral code, and you don't feel the 3rd party candidates would do a good job.

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So, who do you choose when you feel the D & R candidates are morally void and violate your moral code, and you don't feel the 3rd party candidates would do a good job.

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That is your choice but sitting out is not the answer. Look past the candidate and look at what they would do and that impact for four years.
 
Nice cut and paste up there...
Well when you only have to go to three different sites to find the random shit she has done. Why bother putting it in my voice. Hell I left tons of shit out.

Fact is, HRC is morally bankrupt and her husband is a rapist.
 
Well when you only have to go to three different sites to find the random shit she has done. Why bother putting it in my voice. Hell I left tons of shit out.

Fact is, HRC is morally bankrupt and her husband is a rapist.
Her husband is not running, though if he could he would win. Her morals are impeccable when compared to the groper.
 
If you are not military, or have never been in the military, as far as I am concerned, you have no voice when it comes to us.
Damn, you love to trot out that response, don't you? "You don't walk in my shoes, THEN YOU DON'T HAVE NO SAY...GOT IT???"

Oh, and have I been asleep and missed the part where DJT served in the military? Why do his opinions on the military matter to you?

How anyone can defend either of these clowns is beyond me. Either party could substitute their nominee for a fvcking corpse right now and the corpse would win in an unprecedented landslide.
 
Damn, you love to trot out that response, don't you? "You don't walk in my shoes, THEN YOU DON'T HAVE NO SAY...GOT IT???"

Oh, and have I been asleep and missed the part where DJT served in the military? Why do his opinions on the military matter to you?

How anyone can defend either of these clowns is beyond me. Either party could substitute their nominee for a fvcking corpse right now and the corpse would win in an unprecedented landslide.

Don't worry, Trump will surround himself with the best military advisors. And by advisors, I mean himself.
 
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As soon as we align with Russia, Iran and Syria the Middle East will be stabilized. #diplomacy

Yea, I'm not letting you have this line of attack either as a Hillary person.

The hypocrisy from the Democrats on the issue of Russia is absolutely astounding. It was just 4 years ago when the elitist snobbery of Obama, Clinton, Kerry, and Biden were mocking Romney for naming Russia as our biggest geopolitical foe. "1980 called- they want their foreign policy back"! Wow, what a zinger! Remember that one?

How about this quote from Kerry at the DNC 2012?

“…but not Mitt Romney. He’s even blurted out the preposterous notion that Russia is our ‘number one geopolitical foe.’ Folks: Sarah Palin said she could see Russia from Alaska; Mitt Romney talks like he’s only seen Russia by watching Rocky IV.”

Now John Kerry is the one in absolute hysterics about Russia after 3 years of Putin kicking his ass in every major diplomatic engagement.

I guess they only give a shit about Russia when they're "allegedly" stealing DNC secrets that make them look bad?
 
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I guess they only give a shit about Russia when they're "allegedly" stealing DNC secrets that make them look bad?
Incorrect. Since 2012 our country has been the focus of numerous cyberattacks by them, we've watched them invade Crimea, and Russia has and continues to bomb children in Aleppo. So yeah, our stance has changed as any logical persons would considering the circumstances.
 
Incorrect. Since 2012 our country has been the focus of numerous cyberattacks by them, we've watched them invade Crimea, and Russia has and continues to bomb children in Aleppo. So yeah, our stance has changed as any logical persons would considering the circumstances.

So basically, all of the threats that Romney raised in 2012, which caused Clinton, Kerry, and Obama to mock him. Got it.
 
I do agree with the notion that if ANY other Republican was running they would win...

BUT....

They aren't! Everyone here realizes that Clinton is the next president, right?
 
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Really, you're concerned about what a guy says about women when he is talking to someone privately rather than Hillary selling her office to the highest bidder. You're a joke 85, you're the dog chasing the squirrel. There are serious issues this country faces and you're following the lead of the media. Quick 85 look over there and don't look at the emails released yesterday talking about hillary's speech to Wall Street firms talking about how she would say one thing and do another. You're type of girl I can tell.

Come on. You're smarter than this.

Criticizing Trump isn't supporting Clinton.

If Gary was in the debates he would win by a landslide.
 
Her husband is not running, though if he could he would win. Her morals are impeccable when compared to the groper.

Ohh I see clearly now, you opened my eyes.

So whay your saying is.....

Trump running his mouth 11 yrs ago bragging about things thst we know damn near every rocker or sports player behaves like. So, now that this revelation has been exposed, everyone is suddenly surprised and aghast. Let me remind everyone, something we already knew about him, he is a womanizer. Because of these "new" revelations, he can't be let anywhere near the WH.*

BUT, it is quite okay that an accused rapist, someone that used his power to take adntage of women around him, someone that USED AN INTERN AS A HUMIDOR, that is a-okay. Ole slick willie is perfectly allowed to be in White House because he isn't running for president. Ohh I forgot, and by your account would be president again should he run. Let me remind you, you said an accused rapist, would win the presidency if he could run again.

But lets not forget, Trump kissed women that fawned over him and I am confident, gropped their pussys when the chics were all over him. Pretty much like every other famous person that has women throwing themselves at them. That is not okay.

Got it.

And you want me to take you seriously. Gtfoh

Last night, Trump knocked that debate out of the park and kicked HRCs ass. She was flustered and it showed. She knows she is fcuked if Trump becomes president. He is putting her ass in jail.
 
Ohh I see clearly now, you opened my eyes.

So whay your saying is.....

Trump running his mouth 11 yrs ago bragging about things thst we know damn near every rocker or sports player behaves like. So, now that this revelation has been exposed, everyone is suddenly surprised and aghast. Let me remind everyone, something we already knew about him, he is a womanizer. Because of these "new" revelations, he can't be let anywhere near the WH.*

BUT, it is quite okay that an accused rapist, someone that used his power to take adntage of women around him, someone that USED AN INTERN AS A HUMIDOR, that is a-okay. Ole slick willie is perfectly allowed to be in White House because he isn't running for president. Ohh I forgot, and by your account would be president again should he run. Let me remind you, you said an accused rapist, would win the presidency if he could run again.

But lets not forget, Trump kissed women that fawned over him and I am confident, gropped their pussys when the chics were all over him. Pretty much like every other famous person that has women throwing themselves at them. That is not okay.

Got it.

And you want me to take you seriously. Gtfoh
Unfortunately for you, Bill isn't running. I'm sorry. I'm not sure attacking him will get Trump into the Whitehouse. You saying you're fine with Trump sexually assaulting women is just sad. What other people may or may not do is not an excuse.
 
Unfortunately for you, Bill isn't running. I'm sorry. I'm not sure attacking him will get Trump into the Whitehouse. You saying you're fine with Trump sexually assaulting women is just sad. What other people may or may not do is not an excuse.

Hillary is running, and she is on record with threatening to intimidate and "expose" Bill's accusers.
 
As I stated a lot had occurred since 2012, why is that hard to understand?

The only thing that's changed is Russia actually acted on the things that Romney, and many other policy advisors, saw to be possible given Russia's penchant for associating with foes of the United States and a desire to be taken seriously abroad.

Again, if Clinton is this foreign policy wizard then why was she, and everyone else with a D next to their game, totally dismissive of the POSSIBILITY that Russia could be our main geopolitical foe? Was it simply because her and Kerry were getting smacked around by Putin so much that they had to downplay it?

You're acting like this was 10 years ago. It was 4 years ago and Putin was exactly the same then as he is now.
 
The only thing that's changed is Russia actually acted on the things that Romney, and many other policy advisors, saw to be possible given Russia's penchant for associating with foes of the United States and a desire to be taken seriously abroad.

Again, if Clinton is this foreign policy wizard then why was she, and everyone else with a D next to their game, totally dismissive of the POSSIBILITY that Russia could be our main geopolitical foe? Was it simply because her and Kerry were getting smacked around by Putin so much that they had to downplay it?

You're acting like this was 10 years ago. It was 4 years ago and Putin was exactly the same then as he is now.
I'm talking about the present. I'm sorry about what happened to you all 4 years ago. I'm sure Romney would have done an excellent job, had he not faced a far superior opponent.
 
I'm talking about the present. I'm sorry about what happened to you all 4 years ago. I'm sure Romney would have done an excellent job, had he not faced a far superior opponent.

lol! So you're now basically admitting that Clinton and Obama's foreign policy is shit, but saying "We won!".

Glad to see the D's finally coming around to the viewpoint that Romney correctly stated 4 years ago. Sorry it took them so long to understand the reality of the world.
 
Doesn't this just prove that Trump's stance on Russia is exactly what Clinton, Kerry, and Obama stated in 2012?

You know, our super qualified foreign policy people*
Russia invaded Crimea in 2014, just two years ago, that's what's really changed between the last election and today. Romney saw the potential that Kerry/Obama did not, and of course Kerry/Obama didn't do anything about it.
 
I do agree with the notion that if ANY other Republican was running they would win...

BUT....

They aren't! Everyone here realizes that Clinton is the next president, right?
But that simply is not true. If Trump wins it is because he took Ohio, Florida
I'm talking about the present. I'm sorry about what happened to you all 4 years ago. I'm sure Romney would have done an excellent job, had he not faced a far superior opponent.
Yes Obama is a superior politician but if he were a superior President the Middle East would not look like it does today. That is the problem with you Libs, you buy the hype of the politician instead of the charchter and ability of the person.
 
Russia invaded Crimea in 2014, just two years ago, that's what's really changed between the last election and today. Romney saw the potential that Kerry/Obama did not, and of course Kerry/Obama didn't do anything about it.

Crimea was still largely irrelevant to the larger discussion. They invaded Ukraine- so what? They had invaded Georgia twice just years prior. It's not like this was something totally unforeseen for Russia to do. The only thing that Crimea really proved was that Russia could engage militarily in many conflicts and the US/NATO would do absolutely nothing about it. Fast forward and Russia is now running the show in Syria.

Romney was talking about the undeniable support that Russia was lending to Syria, Iran, China, North Korea, and Venezuela. Somehow Clinton and Obama saw this and still managed to come away mocking Romney for suggesting they're our biggest foe.
 
Is Trump the best candidate out there? NO (I really like Pence)

Is he a change agent? Yes

Will he fix several issues in Washington? Not sure.

I am willing to put his HUGE ego to work and see what he has. I know that HRC has no intention of changing anything, or at least anything that is anything I support.

If Trump can grow this country, I don't give a shit what he may have said in the past and if he did or did not grab some chic's crotch when they were on his lap. There are way more important things that I care about.

I am a fiscally conservative, socially responsible independent. I actually liked Webb in the primaries. Unfortunately, he never stood a chance. The whole DNC primary was nothing more than a sideshow, HRC was picked to be Barry's successor and the rest were there for nothing more than to say, "e interviewed other candidates for the job." The DNC is a farce.

Bottom line: The DNC should have picked someone else, their candidate is garbage. On the RNC side, the people picked Trump, because it sure the hell wasn't the RNC.

There are way to many HRC nut huggers in here. If you can look at yourself in the mirror with a straight face and say that she is good for this country, you have some serious issues.

I am cutting sling load on this thread and popping smoke.
 
But that simply is not true. If Trump wins it is because he took Ohio, Florida

Yes Obama is a superior politician but if he were a superior President the Middle East would not look like it does today. That is the problem with you Libs, you buy the hype of the politician instead of the charchter and ability of the person.
I think we're all aware of Trumps character and ability at this point, but do tell us what Romney's Middle East would look like.
 
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