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Tammy Duckworth VP candidate

Yea Donald Trump sure was the first person to trash war "heros". Oh wait, no he wasn't - the entire DNC base trashed McCain as a racist and a bigot nonstop for 8 months in 2008. Up to and including this gem:

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaig...lling-every-republican-a-racist-lost-its-bite

Civil rights icon and Georgia congressman John Lewis is accusing John McCain and Sarah Palin of stoking hate, likening the atmosphere at Republican campaign events to those featuring George Wallace, the segregationist former governor of Alabama and presidential candidate. McCain's campaign has responded with a statement in the candidate's name, urging Barack Obama to repudiate Lewis's comments.

"What I am seeing reminds me too much of another destructive period in American history," Lewis said in a statement issued today for Politico's Arena forum. "Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin are sowing the seeds of hatred and division, and there is no need for this hostility in our political discourse."

Lewis didn't accuse McCain of imitating Wallace, but suggested there were similarities.

"George Wallace never threw a bomb," Lewis noted. "He never fired a gun, but he created the climate and the conditions that encouraged vicious attacks against innocent Americans who were simply trying to exercise their constitutional rights. Because of this atmosphere of hate, four little girls were killed on Sunday morning when a church was bombed in Birmingham, Alabama."

“As public figures with the power to influence and persuade, Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin are playing with fire, and if they are not careful, that fire will consume us all," Lewis said today. "They are playing a very dangerous game that disregards the value of the political process and cheapens our entire democracy. We can do better. The American people deserve better.”
Cool story of whataboutism. The point remains that Duckworth will come off as a sympathetic figure and will be difficult to trash the same way Trump does with literally any one else opposed.
 
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Cool story of whataboutism. The point remains that Duckworth will come off as a sympathetic figure and will be difficult to trash the same way Trump does with literally any one else opposed.

Not whataboustim but refuting what you just said. It was fairly easy.
 
Not whataboustim but refuting what you just said. It was fairly easy.
What did you refute? I said that it will be difficult to keep up the Trump MO of attacking everyone including war heros when it comes to Duckworth and then you went on a tangent about when a Georgia congressman said something about McCain. It’s the actual definition of whataboutism.
 
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Who is dumb enough to equate the two? We got plenty of options in da cooler.

It's so stupid. It goes to this idea that many Republicans have that they are the "real Americans", and if you disagree with them it's only because you hate America. If someone who damn near lost her life in service to this country hates America, but a talking head who sits in a studio and has never sacrificed anything is the patriot, then the concept of patriotism basically has no meaning anymore.
 
Criticizing someone's policies or positions, and questioning their patriotism is not the same thing.
What was the basis of Tucker Carlsons criticism? Obviously since she's a politician its her policy positions. He used hyperbole, just like many have used against Crenshaw. He didnt discredit her service to the US which would have crossed the line for everyone. The fact remains though, that her policy positions would drastically change what the US is today, which means she doesn't like the country. No shame in that, we all want to see changes.
 
When Crenshaw was made fun of (by a comedy show) they apologized and had him on as a guest and admitted it was wrong to do.

Lets see what Carlson does though.
 
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What was the basis of Tucker Carlsons criticism? Obviously since she's a politician its her policy positions. He used hyperbole, just like many have used against Crenshaw. He didnt discredit her service to the US which would have crossed the line for everyone. The fact remains though, that her policy positions would drastically change what the US is today, which means she doesn't like the country. No shame in that, we all want to see changes.

He literally said she hates America.

It's a very strong charge, and we try not ever to make it. But in the face of all of this, the conclusion can't be avoided. These people actually hate America. There's no longer a question about that."

He was talking about Duckworth and Omar in that quote. Duckworth has sacrificed more for this country than Tucker has ever dreamed of sacrificing, so yeah, this is complete bullshit.
 
When Crenshaw was made fun of (by a comedy show) they apologized and had him on as a guest and admitted it was wrong to do.

Lets see what Carlson does though.

Yep. He was on the very next week and was given an apology live on the air. But the thing is, Pete Davidson just made a stupid joke, where as Carlson is trying to portray Duckworth as anti American. Yet, Crenshaw was still given a public apology live on the air.
 
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Yeah, Tammy Duckworth HATES AMERICA is the same line they use against Al Qaeda, the Taliban, any communist dictator, and basically all foreigners. To use that phrasing against a non-white senator is beyond a dog whistle under normal circumstances but to use it on someone who clearly does love America and has a family military history dating back to the American Revolution is straight up racist because no one could possibly see it as factual and if she were white, it wouldn't be said.
 
When Crenshaw was made fun of (by a comedy show) they apologized and had him on as a guest and admitted it was wrong to do.

Lets see what Carlson does though.
Tucker served too so he can say whatever he wants.
 
Yeah, Tammy Duckworth HATES AMERICA is the same line they use against Al Qaeda, the Taliban, any communist dictator, and basically all foreigners. To use that phrasing against a non-white senator is beyond a dog whistle under normal circumstances but to use it on someone who clearly does love America and has a family military history dating back to the American Revolution is straight up racist because no one could possibly see it as factual and if she were white, it wouldn't be said.

Not to mention putting up a picture of Omar and Duckworth side by side, with a chryon about "preserving our nation and heritage". It's not even a dog whistle, its a bull horn.
 
Not to mention putting up a picture of Omar and Duckworth side by side, with a chryon about "preserving our nation and heritage". It's not even a dog whistle, its a bull horn.

isn’t Omar the one who allegedly married her brother to gain citizenship? I feel like that was a rumor a while ago
 
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isn’t Omar the one who allegedly married her brother to gain citizenship? I feel like that was a rumor a while ago

Shes lived in America since she wa 13 years old and became a citizen when she was 17.
 
Yeah, it was a rumor that made no sense and has nothing backing it up.

I would imagine It was baseless otherwise It would have been huge news. Like I said I don’t know much about her but thought I remembered her from that rumor
 
Duckworth is...unAmerican?!?!? o_Oo_Oo_O

Once upon a time, the racism on display on TV was at least subtle.

Nowadays, politicians and pundits like Turker Carlson don't think twice before blasting away with their dog whistles.
 
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Not to mention putting up a picture of Omar and Duckworth side by side, with a chryon about "preserving our nation and heritage". It's not even a dog whistle, its a bull horn.
There is it. Everything is racism.
 
Duckworth is a great American and someone that most Senators on the other side of the aisle respect and like.

Omar is an anti-Semitic shitbag who holds contempt for America while making excuses for Jihadis. She’s a disaster.
 
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Duckworth is a great American and someone that most Senators on the other side of the aisle respect and like.

Omar is an anti-Semitic shitbag who holds contempt for America while making excuses for Jihadis. She’s a disaster.
Agree on both counts. Omar also came out with this statement that opens her up to a lot of criticism: “We can’t stop at criminal justice reform or policing reform,” she said during an outdoor press conference. “We are not merely fighting to tear down the systems of oppression in the criminal justice system. We are fighting to tear down systems of oppression that exist in housing, in education, in health care, in employment, [and] in the air we breathe.”

That's right in line with the radical left's rhetoric about eliminating America's free market system and dovetails with what the Seattle councilwoman said recently as well. It is not unreasonable to think that Ilhan Omar hates much of what America is and many Americans. She's said as much in many public statements. She's entitled to that opinion and she can represent that all she wants in Congress. If her district doesn't want to be represented as such, they can remove her at any time.
 
Duckworth is a great American and someone that most Senators on the other side of the aisle respect and like.

Omar is an anti-Semitic shitbag who holds contempt for America while making excuses for Jihadis. She’s a disaster.

Right, but Tucker thinks she hates America and wants to destroy it.
 
There is it. Everything is racism.

Talking about protecting heritage and displaying two women of color and saying they hate America has dogwhistles written all over it, sorry, but it does. Duckworth has done more for this country than that trustfund brat has ever dreamed of, but apparently her heritage isnt "American". Wonder why that is?
 
Talking about protecting heritage and displaying two women of color and saying they hate America has dogwhistles written all over it, sorry, but it does. Duckworth has done more for this country than that trustfund brat has ever dreamed of, but apparently her heritage isnt "American". Wonder why that is?
IDK about Duckworth. From what you say, it certainly seems like Carlson is off-base. I don't watch his show.

Omar wants to tear down the "systems" and continually spews hate against the people that provided her family with a refuge from terrible violence and then gave her the opportunity to be a leader of the country. She has made all sorts of comments condemning American servicemen. It is not racist to say that she appears out to destroy what America is today.
 
IDK about Duckworth. From what you say, it certainly seems like Carlson is off-base. I don't watch his show.

Omar wants to tear down the "systems" and continually spews hate against the people that provided her family with a refuge from terrible violence and then gave her the opportunity to be a leader of the country.

His rants the last two nights have been about Duckworth. The only reason Omar is a part of this is because Tucker went out of his way to put a picture of the two side by side, and claiming they both hate America. Tucker is the one comparing Omar and Duckworth.
 
So calling Senator Duckworth unAmerican ISN'T racist??!? o_O

What the hell is it then?
Not racist. Its a disagreement on her policy positions. He threw out the anti-american rhetoric just like you guys throw out the racist rhetoric all the time.

I hope Tammy didn't get her feelings hurt over it. Maybe she'll stand up to him.....oh wait.
 
Not racist. Its a disagreement on her policy positions. He threw out the anti-american rhetoric just like you guys throw out the racist rhetoric all the time.
We've all become so accustomed to trollish insults surrounding political "disagreements" that we don't think twice about their meaning anymore.

If the "disagreement" had been with Bernie or Elizabeth (you know, Pocahontas), Tucker would have railed about those evil socialists! But anti-American is reserved for those 'special' liberals who happen to look different from you and me. It's no coincidence that politicians like Obama and Duckworth are hit with the "anti-American" tag. Hmmm....I wonder if it's because of perceived "policy position" differences. ;)

If you want to ignore it instead of calling out such irresponsible behavior, so be it.
 
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We've all become so accustomed to trollish insults surrounding political "disagreements" that we don't think twice about its meaning anymore.

If the "disagreement" had been with Bernie or Elizabeth (you know, Pocahontas), Tucker would have railed about these evil socialists! But anti-American is reserved for those 'special' liberals who happen to look different from you and me. It's no coincidence that politicians like Obama and Duckworth are hit with the "anti-American" tag. Hmmm....I wonder if it's because of perceived "policy positions." ;)

If you want to ignore it instead of calling such irresponsible behavior out, so be it.

I'm not a racist. I think Tammy can stand up for herself and doesn't need my outrage.
 
Not racist. Its a disagreement on her policy positions. He threw out the anti-american rhetoric just like you guys throw out the racist rhetoric all the time.

I hope Tammy didn't get her feelings hurt over it. Maybe she'll stand up to him.....oh wait.

Calling American citizens anti- American if not racist, is at least xenophobic. But, he was also talking about heritage, which most certainly has dog whistles all over it, especially when directed at a non white person. And I am sure you know, the idea of "heritage" has had a pretty poor track record by some pretty horrible political figures, if you get my drift. As I said earlier, it goes back to this notion Republicans have that they are the "real Americans", and of course the Republican party is a vastly white party.
 
Calling American citizens anti- American if not racist, is at least xenophobic. But, he was also talking about heritage, which most certainly has dog whistles all over it, especially when directed at a non white person. And I am sure you know, the idea of "heritage" has had a pretty poor track record by some pretty horrible political figures, if you get my drift. As I said earlier, it goes back to this notion Republicans have that they are the "real Americans", and of course the Republican party is a vastly white party.

You are correct. It clearly was a dogwhistle. It got all of the leftists that love claiming racism a-runnin.
 
You are correct. It clearly was a dogwhistle. It got all of the leftists that love claiming racism a-runnin.

I know I am correct, which is why you dont even make an attempt to rebut it. It isnt a coincidence that Stormfront used to love them some Tucker Carlson (and probably still do if that site is still around).
 
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You are correct. It clearly was a dogwhistle. It got all of the leftists that love claiming racism a-runnin.
Yeah, you sure nailed us leftists.

Can you imagine how fragile our psyches have to be to actually take offense when Tucker Carlson calls Duckworth, a female Asian American US Senator and Iraq war veteran who lost both her legs in combat anti-American on national TV???

It's almost as bad as the time Trump called out President Obama for not being legitimate. My God, we are all SUCH snowflakes, right?*
 
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