Target ditches gender labels for kid toys
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If your opinion changes SO much that they change completely on the "day your daughter is born" then I'm sorry, that's pathetic. Do all of our opinions change as we age and gain experience? Sure, but to say that because someone doesn't have a kid that they can't comment on a topic around kids, that's just irresponsible and insecure.
How are us stupid people without kids going to know what to buy without girl and boy branding. I'll be buying my niece toy guns and fishing poles if everything is gender neutral.
Every redneck should know..."this is my rod, this is my pole, one is for fishing, one is for hole." Fix it perv.
LOL Sucks, IIRC your opinion 5-6 years ago was that you never wanted to have kids at all. Now you have two lovely girls, I'd say that there must have been some change in opinion.
BTW, I think this thread made my IQ drop 10 points. I learn more when I binge watch Bachelor in Paradise.
Not saying opinions don't change just saying that if they change that drastically maybe they weren't mature in the first place, mine included. That being said, my philosophy on how kids should be raised hasn't changed even when everyone told me "once you have kids you'll think differently".
Maybe it would help to understand the context of "once you have kids you'll think differently". What were they referring to? Not punching children? Because I'd call bullshit on that.
Agreed.
I think people with and without kids both have shitty opinions, so they're all even
The comments were always around people saying things like "you'll cave, the kid will sleep in your room" or whenever I talked about my discipline preferences or how I thought Day Care would be very valuable, etc... Stuff like that.
Anyone can have an opinion on how to raise kids, but until you've had one, you lack the practical knowledge. Its much the same as a kid straight out of college getting their first real job. Sure you know the theory, but putting it to work in the real world is a much harder challenge.
You probably didn't change your mind on the bigger issues, but I'm sure you've changed your mind on countless little things through out the years. A lot of little things can add up. That is what I was referring to. If you wanna continue to lie to yourself about how you had it all figured out before you even had kids, go ahead.
Assuming that you've got everything figured out, and those views won't change even after major life events (kids), is basically saying that you've accumulated a lifetime of wisdom by 35 or whatever.
Which is ridiculous.
Which is ridiculous.
Except that above you and others tell people like @jetsaholic that they specifically can't have opinions because they don't have kids. That's the whole point, just because someone doesn't have that "practical knowledge" doesn't mean they aren't smarter and more informed on the discussion than some people who do have that practical knowledge. God I can't tell you how many parents out there are complete and total morons and have ridiculously stupid opinions compared to someone like Jets who know what's up.
I never said they cant have their own opinions. I said I personally take anyone who doesnt have a kids opinion with a lot of salt. Yes there are a lot of shitty parents out there, and Im sure Jets and many others on this board have better ideas on how to raise a kid. But much like my example on the kid straight outta college, it takes a lot more than just knowledge of theory to actually execute on those plans.
Those three things are very black and white issues though so it is easy to stick to one choice since the alternative is vastly different.
My kid rarely sleeps in my room with exceptions made to sickness. This was something I knew before I had kids. I didn't want it to become a habit.
Discipline is harder since there are so many strategies and methods and kids responding better to some over others. I don't believe you when you say that your discipline methods were worked out beforehand unless you're referring to the extremes like not spanking.
My kid was always going to go to daycare.
These things you listed seem like "easy" decisions to make and keep, however, I don't think it is possible for you sit back and say you had it all figured out before you had kids. That is impossible. Amount of sleep, amount of free time,
ing alone, how much cleaning there is, how many things you can do with kids, how many things you can't, etc. There is just no way to know how you would respond to all of those "life changing" things. Your entire life adapted to a life where kids fit in and it is impossible for those without kids to understand just how much, or how little, your life does change. Were you able to anticipate many of those changes, yes, there are still countless others that someone without kids doesn't know.
I bet baby puke,
, and piss don't bother you any more. I bet you are used to not ing, peeing, or showering alone. I bet you understand how it can take you 20 minutes longer to get out of the house because your infant decides to crap their diaper the instant you start walking out the door, every, damn, time. I bet babies crying don't bother you as much as they once did, and seem a lot quieter too. I told myself before kids that I will not have a three year old that walks around with a pacifier. And I don't!. He sucks his thumb. Good luck knowing something like that before kids.
I guess I'm saying that I agree with you on some things but disagree with you on many others. Yeah it's possible to know how you're going to raise your kids but there are hundreds of other things that you have to adapt around that you can't plan for. I said a lot.
I get mostly irritated when people without kids attempt to tell me I'm doing something wrong and then suggest a method that has been tried and doesn't work with my child or is idiotic anyway.
Yes I know my kid is upset. No, they aren't hungry. No, they have a clean diaper. No they aren't too hot or cold. No, my infant doesn't like socks and it is the middle of summer, he's fine. Oh really, you're going to breast feed all of your babies and it'll be easy? Please, show me how good at parenting you are mr/mrs non-parent. (this goes for parents too, though)
Never said that, I'm just saying that you can't discount someone because they don't have kids.
No where did I even come close to referencing that your life doesn't change
I have two girls, I do all of those things aloneI bet you are used to not
This is my entire point, just because you are a parent doesn't validate your opinion anymore, especially since the people giving the opinion usually don't know what's been tried. To fully invalidate a non-parent's opinion but hold up an actual parent's opinion as holy speak is the problem.
You entire life changing is exactly why non-parents opinions seldom matter. Without this life experience you cannot possibly imagine how you will handle it. You can have an idea or a goal but that is it.
Bullshit. You are telling me that you were able to keep your walking, wanting to follow parents around, toddlers out of the bathroom while you're in there? What kind of sorcery is this? What do you do with then if you are alone? Lock them out of the bathroom? What if you are out in public without your wife? I am flabbergasted here.
You can absolutely invalidate a non-parent's opinion. A parent giving an opinion, whether right or wrong, is basing it on their experiences with their children. A non-parent is basing it on blogs, or children they are not 100% vested into, or other bullshit.
I experienced it > I read it in a blog
Thank you for the accolades, but I still ain't having any kids. Fukc that. I'll let you all have all the babies.
Like, #allthebabies
I did an initial intake with a client a couple of weeks ago. She brought her son. Her son was a victim in an incident and he needed/needs a lawyer. The kid is 10 years old. She insisted that I use "it" instead of "he" when speaking about the child or to the child. I don't think we really know what this does to most children on a development level and therefore it seems misguided to me. On the subject of Target, they just want to sell stuff. If they have to change something to shut some people up when the rest of us won't notice or care, then that is what they are going to do. Its interesting that the same people calling for this change also aren't arguing to remove the "Women's" labels on things like T-Shirts, jeans, and other items that are tailored for specific anatomical differences. That tells me it is more about raising money and pushing people around because they can, than it is truly about any deeply held belief in top to bottom changes in gender stereotyped products.
Yep, lock them out if we are just at home, when we are out, at least so far, I've just held it until I can get time for myself.
The only thing more hysterical than the parents arguing is if you remove the word "kid" and insert the word "pet".
