I don’t think he understands our fanbase. I would much rather fly to Seattle or other Pac destinations for a September OOC game than some of the Big12 destinations. Also Orlando, Ft Lauderdale, & Tampa all have direct flights to Seattle
the game would have been in September when weather there is usually sunnyWould be a yawn of a game to me. Bunch of other cities I'd prefer to visit than cloudy ass Seattle.
Fair points, I agree Washington would be a lovely place to visit and watch UCF play as a fan. Would also be a nice experience for the players.Ohio State agreed to a series at Oregon(that was
COVID delayed). Not every matchup is for recruiting . it is a great place for an OOC game
What do FCS games do for recruits, or GT?A game against Washington does nothing for us in terms of recruiting. If we lose, we look bad to recruits, if we win, recruits don't care. No recruits from the states of FL, AL, GA are going to Washington anyway
Disagree. Yes they are not a regional powerhouse (SEC) but they are traditionally good and the game would probably be on good tv slot. Recruits also like relevant games and winners.A game against Washington does nothing for us in terms of recruiting. If we lose, we look bad to recruits, if we win, recruits don't care. No recruits from the states of FL, AL, GA are going to Washington anyway
from a tv perspective more recruits would see us play Washington than FAU or FIU buried on a network a lot of people/sport bars don’t get or airDisagree. Yes they are not a regional powerhouse (SEC) but they are traditionally good and the game would probably be on good tv slot. Recruits also like relevant games and winners.
yep it contradicts this. I’ll bite my tongue …..Sounds like he would be voting against B12 to bring in Pac12 teams.
It would have to be a 2-1 with two Gainesville. Of course UCF would always take a 1-1 and neutral.By the way I was for the Florida series but not having the info on what was the alternative
What do FCS games do for recruits, or GT?
That's my issue. Until we can be done with FCS games (which we were for a couple years), I don't get passing on games like this.
We had one P5 game last regular season.
I mean going to the B12 may change this, as Terry said, but I'd like to know what the philosophy is, as the old philosophy didn't make much sense to me.
You are comparing apples and oranges and distorting what I'm sayingfrom a tv perspective more recruits would see us play Washington than FAU or FIU buried on a network a lot of people/sport bars don’t get or air
The first thing I said in this thread was why can't we do both. Why do we need filler? This just feeds into the "play somebody" arguments that people make.You are comparing apples and oranges and distorting what I'm saying
Recruits are not deciding between UCF and FIU/FAU, we are obviously above those. As they are also not deciding between UCF and Washington, due to geography. In fact, no players from the South East are considering Washington.
Obviously Washington is a higher caliber opponent relative to FIU/FAU, duh.
What I'm saying is UCF would benefit more in recruiting if we played, say FSU, South Carolina, Ole Miss, or any mid-P5 school in the South East instead of Washington.
Why those schools? Because we compete with them for recruits and we have a decent shot to beat them.
FIU, FAU, FCS opponents are filler games. Just listen to Terry and Gus's actual interviews. You schedule 2-3 filler games, and 1 strong opponent in your OOC games.
We benefit most from recruiting if our OOC game is from a strong South Eastern Opponent
A game against Washington does nothing for us in terms of recruiting. If we lose, we look bad to recruits, if we win, recruits don't care. No recruits from the states of FL, AL, GA are going to Washington anyway
This makes no sense…what’s Terry’s number?
You proved my point thank you.They have Team Captain at MLB is from Alabama and their starting QB & Team Captain is from Florida.
Let's use UCFacts instead of hyperbole.
CFB because of TV and more importantly internet streaming is a National Sport. Of course UCFans care about the opponent irregardless of the state they are from. To say otherwise is beyond UCFoolish
#UCFacts
We need filler schools because we need to give players rest and get the back ups playing time. Just like Alabama, OSU, Michigan, and every other P5 school does.The first thing I said in this thread was why can't we do both. Why do we need filler? This just feeds into the "play somebody" arguments that people make.
Yes, different going into the big 12, maybe.
Want to be a national brand? You need to be the best. To do that, you need to get the best recruits. To do that, you need to convince the locals to stay home!You want to be a national brand, you expose the team to markets that normally wouldn't see UCF.
We know Danny White's strategy created a rift with UCF and P5 schools, bold move to turndown P5 schools when they actually offer a 1-1.
Yes, and would be interesting if he's the only one while B12/PAC12 members are pushing for it.yep it contradicts this. I’ll bite my tongue …..
We don't have trouble getting teams to schedule. We have trouble scheduling the teams we want to schedule.Thought we were having trouble getting teams to schedule anything. No idea why we would turn that down.
Not going to get easier. B10/B12/P12 already only does 3 OOC. Wouldn't be surprised SEC which is getting two huge programs, and ACC already a big conference switching to 3 OOC.We don't have trouble getting teams to schedule. We have trouble scheduling the teams we want to schedule.
Want to be the best? You need money.Want to be a national brand? You need to be the best. To do that, you need to get the best recruits. To do that, you need to convince the locals to stay home!
I agree with your goal, I disagree with the actions. Playing Washington does nothing for us from a recruiting standpoint.
Nobody cares about Washington. They have a decent program, but they are a regional brand.
Also true. Not sure how flying to Washington helps that.Want to be the best? You need money.
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We need filler schools because we need to give players rest and get the back ups playing time. Just like Alabama, OSU, Michigan, and every other P5 school does.
Washington does get eyeballs (#12 TV Market). UCLA/Wash last year had more viewers in week 7 than UCF/Cincy on ABC in 2021.Also true. Not sure how flying to Washington helps that.
Penix who UCF was after in the portal looked good last weekend and they beat Michigan StateWashington does get eyeballs (#12 TV Market). UCLA/Wash last year had more viewers in week 7 than UCF/Cincy on ABC in 2021.
Wash/Michigan had almost 5 million viewers in week 2 in 2022. UCF/Cincy 2018 on ABC/GameDay was 3 Million.
1 of 13 teams that has actually participated in Playoffs, 3 seasons in the last 8 years where they finished in top 20. Currently, ranked in top 20.
Not exactly an irrelevant program currently.