mad because everytime you bark in my direction i've bitchslapped you back to your proper ladder rung and only refilled your water dish halfway
don't fight it
The meltdown
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don't fight it
This post is perfect for the melt down thread. Like Bidens presidency is going to harm your career. Are you a fracker?
Didn't say I was going to retire, just I have the option. A nationwide shutdown is not out of the question,
Fla shutdown didn't close my business, but I did lose customers, who did lose their jobs.
Right now I plan to work 1 to 2 more years, but if things get rough I have better options than most.
Biden had nothing to do with Florida voting a min wage increase.
Remember, anyone who even wants to ask for a second look at that bump is an absolute nutjob.hahaha
Literally every vote goes for a single candidate? Yeah, I'm sure its totally legit
Yeah, I have seen that on twitter, but I dont see the source it is coming from. Am I just missing it?
I was just out and about running some errands and listened to Rushbo so I could discover what red hat nation is thinking. According to Limbaugh, we've had MASSIVE voter fraud in Michigan and Wisconsin (so as I predicted last night, those states are going to Biden and giving him the Presidency.)
Since Biden is going to win in a close election, sadly we'll hear more of this kind of whining about a 'stolen' election.
I had hoped that this would have been more clear-cut so that Biden could help heal the nation, but the way this is playing out, it's destined to be messy because Trump is incapable of losing with class.
Since Biden is going to win in a close election, sadly we'll hear more of this kind of whining about a 'stolen' election.
I had hoped that this would have been more clear-cut so that Biden could help heal the nation, but the way this is playing out, it's destined to be messy because Trump is incapable of losing with class.
Nah. But it's like the saying - "never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
** Michigan has just been officially declared for Joe Biden. **
Tell him what? That 1 day after Trump won there were already calls for impeachment? Or the spying? Or the left-wing barrage claiming he was an illegitimate president?
If I were being honest, I was expecting a universal repudiation of the Trump presidency last night. I still find it hard to believe that so many Americans in so many states believed the Orange Man was somehow deserving of four more years.
That said, the election played out as was expected with the Rust Belt States. Trump had to be absolutely perfect and run the table to win again. With Omaha, NE, Wisconsin, and Michigan flipping and Nevada and Arizona poised to do the same for Biden, it's pretty clear at this point that he fell short and Joe Biden is going to be our next President.
Unfortunately, the Trump "meltdown" won't be pretty.
That said, the election played out as was expected with the Rust Belt States. Trump had to be absolutely perfect and run the table to win again. With Omaha, NE, Wisconsin, and Michigan flipping and Nevada and Arizona poised to do the same for Biden, it's pretty clear at this point that he fell short and Joe Biden is going to be our next President.
Unfortunately, the Trump "meltdown" won't be pretty.
Whats confusing to me is how people still can't seem to understand his appeal. I'm not even a Trump voter but it's not hard to see if you at least try and think about it from the perspective of others.
When virtually half of the country feels a certain way and you can't see why then maybe that's a you problem? History will end up being the judge of course.
I agree with you 100% ; however, it is kind of funny to see southerners froth over Trump and treat him like a got damn biblical hero over the course of the past four years. If you asked your average southerner in 2014-15 what they thought of Donald, their answer would have been "He's a loud-mouthed fukcing stupid-ass Yankee who needs his God damn ass whipped." Now, he's God's handpicked choice to save us all from turning into gay socialists.
Their tough guy president wears bronzer and they still think he's a man's man.
Whether you adore him or see him as a human car wreck, I will agree that he is impossible to ignore. But that doesn't explain how many good people ignore his countless failings as a leader. It's not like Trump is a mystery to anyone at this point.
Even NOW, he's threatening legal action before the final votes have even been counted. And when he loses, do you believe he'll exit the White House with the same the bipartisan dignity and class that every President of either party has done after a national election throughout our country's history?
Spot on.
My theory since 2016 is that populism is our future. It appears to be our present now. Why? 40+ years of wages lagging productivity increases. High paying manufacturing jobs being replaced with low paying service jobs. General wealth and income inequality on the backs of sky rocketing education, healthcare, and housing expenses.
What Bernie and Trump's success in 2016 told me was that all these underlying problems were coming to a head. Bernie was blaming billionaires and Trump was blaming immigrants - and they were both blaming Trade. But at the center of the onion were the same underlying problems. Calling Trump supporters deplorable racists is feeding into this.
Anti-Trump sentiment got Joe over the line, while a massive turnout for Trump did wonders down ballot. Trump isn't going to be on the ballot in 2022 or 2024 (hopefully). But this culturally-conservative rural populist party is the Republican party of the future - this election cemented that. Democrats need a Bernie-esque message going forward if they want to (1) motivate their working class base and (2) eat into Trump's.
Aside from the populism, if you are concerned that the cause is manufacturing jobs leaving because of all of the benefits of production overseas, then you should be lamenting that the only President that's tried to do anything about it may not win re-election. Biden, like all the others, put out a campaign ad saying one thing, but his 47 years in Washington proved a different record.
The problem is that over a 40 year period, wealth concentrated while corporate profits and stock market gains fair outpaced wage growth. Policy in DC (both Republican and Democrat) ultimately benefitted corporations at the expense of workers. Trade is one part of that overall picture, where policy was aimed at corporate benefit and macro growth w/o corresponding policies to protect workers and wages.
The message above is where I *think* the bases of both parties re in lock-step agreement - they just don't realize it. To the working-class Trump voter who saw the local factory his dad worked at disappear, and his job options pay half what his Dad used to make, Trump's core message is highly persuasive - but was so was Bernie's.
This is a key reason Hillary lost in 2016. A foundational misunderstanding how badly corporate aligned Democrats had lost touch with their working class base.
See minimum wage vote in Florida. Trump wins by ~4% and the ballot initiative wins by 60%. Progressive economic issues that don't get overly-politicized are generally favored by the public. But a whole host of Florida Democrats were wishy washy on the ballot initiative? Why? Because their aligned with their corporate sponsors over the working-class voters who put them in office.
I'm not against populism per say. It's a tool that can be wielded for good or evil (so to speak). If the messaging is anti-democratic and conspiratorial it worries me.
But Trump really didn't do anything about it either. Manufacturing job #s were going down under Trump, just like they were before Trump. Corona certainly escalated those #s, but even before corona, manufacturing job #s were on the decline.
Trump hails ‘manufacturing miracle’ as factories bleed jobs
The president's anti-trade agenda and a pandemic-induced recession have combined to shutter factories and accelerate trends toward automation.
www.politico.com
We just got the latest sign the US is losing manufacturing jobs — the opposite of what Trump's trade wars were supposed to accomplish
While President Donald Trump has pledged to revive factory jobs in the US, that pocket of the economy dipped deeper into a recession last month.
markets.businessinsider.com
Aside from the fact that I said he was trying... Hey look, I found articles too.But Trump really didn't do anything about it either. Manufacturing job #s were going down under Trump, just like they were before Trump. Corona certainly escalated those #s, but even before corona, manufacturing job #s were on the decline.
Trump hails ‘manufacturing miracle’ as factories bleed jobs
The president's anti-trade agenda and a pandemic-induced recession have combined to shutter factories and accelerate trends toward automation.
We just got the latest sign the US is losing manufacturing jobs — the opposite of what Trump's trade wars were supposed to accomplish
While President Donald Trump has pledged to revive factory jobs in the US, that pocket of the economy dipped deeper into a recession last month.
Trump’s big reelection weapon: A remarkable manufacturing jobs boom
It turns out that you don’t need incantations or even a “magic wand” to improve manufacturing job growth. You do, however, need public policies in place that promote U.S. businesses.
thehill.com
In Trump's First 30 Months, Manufacturing Up By 314,000 Jobs Over Obama; Which States Are Hot?
In the last 30 months of President Obama’s term, manufacturing employment grew by 185,000 or 1.5%. In President Trump’s first 30 months, manufacturers added 499,000 jobs, expanding by 4.0%. ...some 314,000 more manufacturing jobs were added under Trump than under Obama, a 170% advantage.
www.forbes.com
But hey, someone will get all that extra manufacturing work for the Green New Deal, so we’ve got that going fo us, right?
“The technology to build new green economies is mostly produced in China. That’s bad for the United States.”
Beijing Is Winning the Clean Energy Race
The technology to build new green economies is mostly produced in China. That’s bad for the United States.
foreignpolicy.com
I post this because this guy has his own TV show on Fox. This isn't even a fringe right winger - this is a mainstream right winger.
Reminds of the the David Frum quote - " If conservatives become convinced that they can not win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. The will reject democracy. "
are you kidding, he's a con man pervert narcissistic liar. How do people NOT see this boggles my fkn mind!
Its legal, but not appropriate unless there is proof of voter fraud. The Trump campaign was hoping for an easy victory but have a contingency plan for this very situation.
You know the old saying - "One man's anti-democratic authoritarian power grab is another man's contingency plan."
