That's all true, or at least in the realm of possibility, but the stock market responds to things, it doesn't lead them.
Something happened this weekend and at this point it isn't public knowledge, it's limited to those in power.
The pandemic of the “unvaccinated” who love to prolong pandemics and post Twitter and Google articles without actually reading them
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Something happened this weekend and at this point it isn't public knowledge, it's limited to those in power.
I think it is possible that is the case. It is certainly possible they have evidence of a new strain that they think might be much worse or something along those lines. But I also think it's possible, and even probable, they realize by pandering to a certain part of the party, they could end up hurting the business of some of their major donors, and those donors wont be pleased with that. Let's be honest, pandering to people with regards to transgender issues, or the government is forcing you to be vaxxed, or any of these types of social and/or conspiracy type of issues might be good for getting you a few votes, but if these things start costing the people who are donating thousands and in even some cases millions of dollars, then those donors are going to tell the politicians to get their shit together or lose their donations.
Good discussion and I do agree with quite a bit of what you said there, but this strikes me as being a sudden pivot, not one based on polling data or trends. It really doesn't seem like this is about votes.
IDK man, like I said before my gut tells me that something bigger is at play here.
Obviously we will see, and as I said, I think it is possible. But I also think the economy is just as, if not more likely. I think the expectation was this Summer was going to be a huge reopening with everyone itching to get back out and about. But with this new surge, that could be halted. And I think because people feel this new surge was preventable, politicians and pundits are likely feeling some pressure.
But wouldn't it be Bidens surge? I don't mean that as a flippant argument either, it's just that typically the political talking heads and officials would classify it that way.
I doubt your major money people will see it that way. Your average GOP Joe on the street might, but the average GOP Joe on the street isnt donating major money to politicians. Let's be honest, political parties pander to certain crowds, but they are taking calls and actually listening to the people and working on things for the people who give them money. Biden is trying to get people vaxxed, it is your GOP leadership and punditry who has been downplaying it the whole time.
AdventHealth's Chief Medical Officer said only about HALF of their 38,000 employees are vaccinated, including those in patient care areas and now AdventHealth is looking to make vaccinations mandatory.
AdventHealth considers mandating staff COVID-19 vaccinations, limiting visitors as
hospitalizations rise across Central Florida
www.orlandosentinel.com
AdventHealth considers mandating staff COVID-19 vaccinations, limiting visitors as
hospitalizations rise across Central Florida
AdventHealth considers mandating staff COVID-19 vaccinations, limiting visitors as hospitalizations rise across Central Florida
AdventHealth plans to decide Wednesday night potential changes to its policies on elective surgery, masking and visitation procedures as the COVID-19 virus again spreads rapidly around the region, …
www.orlandosentinel.com
Who’s still aboard team delusional?
July 21 (GMT)
Updates- 56,525 new cases and 416 new deaths in the United States
If they are under 55 years old and healthy, knowing this is a new vaccine that has caused problems for some already, and we will not know for years what the long term issues may be, What makes you think you know better than them. I took moderna shots, so I am not an anti vaxer. Just like making kids get it, we KNOW the vaccine causes heart issues in some of them, While 1 out of every 11,000 confirmed Wuhan cases died. assuming that the nearly 3 million confirmed cases can likely be doubled to 6 mil, that would be one out of 22,000 who got Wuhan/Fauci died. 300 kids, out of 7 million vaccinated kids have had heart inflammation caused by the vaccine. with 1 reported death.
You just aren’t intelligent enough to understand on how mRNA vaccines work. Maybe you should read up on it if you keep saying the same idiotic BS
100%. He's been doing this for almost 20 years on this board: posting incoherent bullshit that lacks thought, understanding, and the ability for cognitive coherence.
Another conspiracy theorist who’s making this political. Show me the study about these kids?! It’s not even FDA approved for “kids.” Then show us the study about the deaths from COVID in every age group.
Which one is higher? Maybe you should stop posting if you’re this ignorant
It really pisses me off. It's SO %$$#%$ ridiculous when the vaccine shots are sitting there just waiting for people to get them.
Do you think that, even at 100% vaccinated, the masking would go away? With so many of you buying into the death porn hysteria, as long as there is 1 COVID death somewhere, and there always will be, there will be people pushing masking.
It obviously doesn't have much to do with the vaccines. England is 89% vaccinated and they're seeing almost as many daily cases as they did in January. Fortunately their deaths are almost zero, but its hard to say if that's because of the vaccine or if it's because the Delta variant is less lethal.
It's always interesting to see virus mutations and their rate of infection/contagion vs. probability of casualty. For the most part, they are inversely proportional and that makes sense. Because a virus that infects and kills everyone burns itself out fairly quickly.
Regardless, the initial media reports of every new variant go like this: A new strain of COVID has been wreaking havoc in Agrabba. Doctors are seeing a significant proportion of patients with the new Aladdin strain and are concerned that the new strain may be more contagious and/or deadly.
All of this is reasonable and without any actual data for any of the claims. People get all freaked out and you get a new round of "Wear Masks You Evil Bastards" and "Get Vaccinated or Die!" Months later a few places will post the story: The Aladdin strain is 2.4 times more contagious than the original strain but there is no evidence that it is more deadly. Also not telling the whole story because it could be absolutely benign with 0 deaths and it still fits the bill of that statement. I'm sure you can figure out why they don't ever come out and say that anything is less lethal.
What's odd is that there doesn't seem to be a direct correlation of vaccination rates and number of cases. Florida and Nebraska have about the same % vaccinated, but Florida is spiking while Nebraska is still declining.
England has 89% vaccinated with spiking numbers while India is only about 30% and they are sharply declining. It's very odd.
Actual data for the claims?
So your take is that the increased COVID hospitalization numbers being reported from around the country are fake? There's no actual data to support it? Is that it?
Now we've got the Great Hoax to go along with the Big Lie!
"iF oNLy wE HaD bEttEr lEAdErshIp thAN thE OrAngE mAN thIS wOUld aLL bE oVER" - Libs in November, 2020
LMFAO. You can't make this crap up!
Yeah, the current COVID spike we're witnessing is all due to Lib Leadership, by golly!*
LMFAO. You can't make this crap up!
Yeah, the current COVID spike we're witnessing is all due to Lib Leadership, by golly!*
He's had an impressive debut into the WC.
it's not. also the lack of COVID response during Trump wasn't cuz of Trump either. If that was the case the US woulda been on an island which it clearly wasn't as most European countries did worse with COVID than we did.LMFAO. You can't make this crap up!
Yeah, the current COVID spike we're witnessing is all due to Lib Leadership, by golly!*
The masking already went away. And deaths and cases never went to 0. I think there is a level of community spread where there will be consideration for bringing them back. Vaccines mitigate those numbers to some degree.
This is flippant sarcasm, but if masks went away then why are mikes and shook bitching about wearing them still.
Assuming COVID doesn’t mutate itself away, then at some point society is going to have to accept a new normal that will be more than 0 Covid deaths. It’ll be interesting what that ends up being.
I'm willing to accept another risk to my life that is currently on par with the risk of getting struck by lightning. Unfortunately the panic porn has changed the brain chemistry of liberals.
Hadnt masking ended mostly everywhere though? This doesn't make sense. Even Cali lifted their mask mandate, before reinstating it. So yes, I think if we were 100% vaxed (or anywhere close) masks would go away.
Masks would go away because the odds of catching Covid-19 or one of its variants would have dramatically decreased.
It's one thing when there was nothing we Americans could to about it other than to social distance and wear masks. It's a whole different deal when the potential end to the pandemic is right under the public's noses and we're too stupid and/or stubborn to make it happen.
Mike works in the medical field. Those people are required and frankly should be required to. I mean if you want masks to disappear from the face of the planet, that won’t happen. But you don’t have to wear one in to Publix. Yay.
Total bullshit.
We’ve got posters questioning every aspect of the COVID vaccines as if they’ve suddenly become virus scientists while at the same time spouting this social media nonsense ^^^^^^^^^ without a second thought.
Link about the CDC employees? I don’t need to figure anything out. I’m vaccinated with the best vaccine against COVID and the Delta variant. 88% effective. You need to figure out why a billion people have been vaccinated and all the world leaders including the last 2
Presidents from different partys
Fact check: Fauci didn't say half of CDC, FDA employees refused COVID-19 vaccine
Two top officials from the FDA and CDC didn't say 40% to 50% of employees are refusing to get vaccinated against COVID-19.
www.usatoday.com
