UCF Portal Thread-signings/rumors
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Although I no longer think Gus can recruit this position worth a crap....
The next rung of guys that could work for us, getting close to bottom here
Ty Thompson - by far the best we could do now
Sluka
Jeff Sims
Cam Fancher
Sam Jackson
Tevin Carter
Anything past this, and we should take our chances with who we have and hope someone emerges
The next rung of guys that could work for us, getting close to bottom here
Ty Thompson - by far the best we could do now
Sluka
Jeff Sims
Cam Fancher
Sam Jackson
Tevin Carter
Anything past this, and we should take our chances with who we have and hope someone emerges
A coach would never withhold an announcement about the starting or backup quarterback is. I mean that's just crazy. It's never happened before.
There's a lot of "blame Gus" going on because he can't pull in like a 5-star QB from the portal. I like what we have on our roster. I think we just need to focus on that. If a portal QB happens, so be it but by doing so it is just as likely to cause a kid already here to bolt. Look, Mikey and Tommy became starters elsewhere, and Parker may get the job next season Ohio. That's 3 kids developed into starting QBs (Yes, I understand they are not Joe Montana). The kids are out-of-control, looking for bank and will sell out your program for an extra $5, and will continue to look for new bank every year. USC just lost a 5-star QB who redshirted this year. Caleb Williams is gone. USC is this kids team....so he bolts?!?!?!? The Ohio State QB transfers.....to Syracuse. How is that an upgrade in skill around you? (rhetorical...it's not). Syracuse was 6-6 (2-6) this season.
There is no rhyme or reason to the portal. It's just roster chaos. I can't even bring myself to get upset about anybody coming or going any more. As no rules are yet established (at least none that seem to be enforced), the college game is just devolving into paid rosters with no salary cap. Players chasing money. Coaching staffs just trying to figure out how to even get players to look at their program without the first words of a conversation being, "How much?"
There is no rhyme or reason to the portal. It's just roster chaos. I can't even bring myself to get upset about anybody coming or going any more. As no rules are yet established (at least none that seem to be enforced), the college game is just devolving into paid rosters with no salary cap. Players chasing money. Coaching staffs just trying to figure out how to even get players to look at their program without the first words of a conversation being, "How much?"
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Sticking to your point about USC, how many wins did the No. 1 overall pick at QB get them? How many wins did Patrick Mahomes get for Texas Tech?
Sure, everybody sees three portal quarterbacks, who were in the Heisman race and the two in the CFP, but the players around those guys are pretty good too.
Payton Manning and Tom Brady had one thing in common: A stout defense behind them. That's what UCF lacks the most.
"Breakout JMU QB compared to Cam and Nick Marshall, tabbed Auburn target"
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A transfer QB with one year of eligibility left AND from Florida AND a former cow AND evoking comparisons to Cam Newton and Nick Marshall...
Breakout JMU QB compared to Cam and Nick Marshall, tabbed Auburn target
James Madison's quarterback was uttered in the same breath as Cam Newton and Nick Marshall and deemed an Auburn football transfer portal target.
Auburn Football: Top 5 transfer portal QB options
After a tough season at the QB position, Auburn football will likely be using the transfer portal to find a new passer. Who are the Tigers' best options?
A transfer QB with one year of eligibility left AND from Florida AND a former cow AND evoking comparisons to Cam Newton and Nick Marshall...
Auburn recruiting?
I am talking about UCF! Gus is far more synonymous with Cam Newton and Nick Marshall than Auburn.
A lot of these transfers end up playing in their final seasons in their home states. McCloud checks every box of the 'current' description of a Gus Malzahn quarterback and what Gus is looking for in a one-year rental. H*ll, two on the seven on current rosters are former cows.
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It’s a no to McCloud for me. I’m not convinced he’s better than McClain. If he wants to come for zero NIL dollars and compete, sure whatever. But I wouldn’t waste any resources on him. If all you’re looking for is a QB to bridge the gap between now and Trujilo/Colson, it should probably be someone that is at least markedly better than TMC - and I don’t think he is. Imagine what TMC’s numbers would look like at James Madison…
Don't argue any of that.
Simply saying if you follow the trends, it makes a lot of sense, and the kid checks a lot of boxes.
He also more of a known commodity than Sluka and would give UCF a quality backup or an experienced starter.
UCF will not have a sufficient experienced backup on the roster after the bowl game if Gus doesn't sign a transfer portal QB.
On an auburn site, all about auburn options, not a single mention of UCF. Stop the BS
McCloud does not improve the QB room in any way….just gets in the way of the 3 guys we need to develop……Ty Thompson or bust at this point…..but I’m sure some low level P4 will land him, as the Gus system is poison to good transfers even if we can find some money.
No mentions of UCF being connected to Sluka, either. I am *assuming* all these coaches are in contact with all these guys b/c there are only so many one-year rentals.
I felt the same way about this kid from Coastal playing in the Sunbelt.
Yeah, the last thing UCF needs is the reigning Sun Belt POTY and a Davey O'Brien Watch List candidate in its quarterback room.
I would much rather rely on Daniel Rizk and the two incoming freshmen to man the backup role.
Some UCF fan you are……doesn’t even know Rizk’s name
McCloud is a no go for us hopefully, still better options
From 2018-2021, McCloud showed little to no evidence at USF/Arizona that he was any better of a prospect than anyone else currently in UCF’s QB room. Yes, he had an incredible fifth season of college in the Sun Belt.
McClain hasn’t even finished his third season in college. I have zero doubt in year five (two years from now) he could be just as prolific in the G5 as McCloud was this season.
My point being, I’m not convinced one good season at JMU at 23 years old makes McCloud any better than TMC.
I’m KJ Jefferson or bust at this point myself. I’m nearly positive UCF can’t afford him. But I think he would be the perfect one-year bridge to Trujilo/Colson. I think he may be the only QB on the market I would be willing to overpay for (and risk losing current QBs for).
If not Jefferson, I’m perfectly fine with TMC.
I would love Jefferson, but we can’t afford him
I really like the upside of Ty Thompson, high end HS recruit, has some experience at a big time program, also has multiple years of eligibility which helps out programs stability. We aren’t one player away from competing for a conference title, so a multi year starter should be the priority
I’m not fine with T-Mac from the decision making and leadership aspects of the position. This offense demands “fast twitch” thinkers like MM and Plumlee. Timmy was a step slow in making decisions. I don’t even think Bortles would be that good in this offense.
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Oh I'm sorry I must have overlooked Dylan's 2 career rushes for 2 yards and four completions for 28 yards.
Those numbers are TOPs among returning quarterbacks at UCF not named Timmy McClain, save Xavier Williams' 34 completions for 420 yards and two touchdowns with two interceptions and 26 rushes for 108 yards and two scores at Charlotte.
So before y'all throw a former trash cow QB under the bus, remember he is FAR more experienced than anything UCF is 'projected' to return on the 2024 roster.
I am trying not to be condescending, but literally anybody in the portal with experience is an improvement over what UCF is projected to have on the roster.
If McClain were to miss any significant time next season for any reason ... Well, it wouldn't be ideal. That's all I am saying.
can anyone explain the Rizk hype from some UCF fans? Is it bc he went to HS in SFLA like many UCF students ? he didn’t have much of an offer list if I remember his recruitment correctly so feel like it is more rooting interest than any proven ability
Well if we just need a guy “with any experience” then I would go grab EJ Warner, lots of experience……face it, you boy Gus wasted a bunch of time on a guy who played us for fools when there was plenty of options that fit our program and had multiple years of eligibility. Now we are down to just a couple of guys.
McCloud with just 1 year left gets us no where…..we are better off waiting until the Spring portal at this point….. for one, Singleton has to get the message eventually
It’s hope more than hype…..we are pretty desperate and Gus struggles recruiting the most important position in sport. I hope we get lucky with somebody, but luck seems to be our only tool.
Looking back, he was a top-100 player in FL & a top-25 Pro-Style QB. That’s not nothing…
Took an OV to UCF, committed to UCF early in his senior season. According to Rivals, offers from Indiana, Kentucky, Michigan State, Northwestern. Was pretty solid with UCF throughout.
I like his size and profile, was high on him coming out of HS. He’s done nothing through his first six months at UCF to change my opinion of him. People aren’t patient with these guys, it’s always easier to drool over the next big thing coming from HS. I’m fine with Rizk, he’s literally been on campus for one semester.
Nothing to do w patience. I was genuinely curious where the hype is coming from
Yeah sorry, didn’t necessarily mean you specifically. I’ve seen UCF fans online overlook/trash/set aside Rizk already (not to mention the Auburn troll a few comments above).
Excuse me? Trolling? How exactly is it trolling if I am pointing out clearly and concisely the obvious: UCF does not have an experienced backup QB on the roster? It is more common sense.
Also, I wasn't so much attacking Rizk as I was pointing out that no quarterback in the room has accomplished anything of substance other than McClain.
(I was attacking Riley Trujillo, but that was a couple of days ago.)
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I'm all for developing the next big QB at UCF from our current roster. But I would be worried that if they begin to develop, they will end up leaving for more money elsewhere because of reasons. I liked the idea of the NIL - let players capitalize on the fact they are a name. I am a UCF fan and love my team but at some point, the NCAA needs to step in and add some more rules about transferring, etc. The players should be students first, athletes second.
My thoughts have been athletes can transfer once for free. After that, they should sit out a year each time they transfer unless they graduate. If they get a 4 year degree, they can transfer freely until their time is up. If players have to sit out a year, it is a diminishing return for them because they are likely not playing unless someone wants to pay them big money to sit on the bench and join the practice squad. It still gives players the ability to transfer one time, similar to what they did prior to the NIL. It also incentivizes players to graduate if they want to move freely between teams.
My thoughts have been athletes can transfer once for free. After that, they should sit out a year each time they transfer unless they graduate. If they get a 4 year degree, they can transfer freely until their time is up. If players have to sit out a year, it is a diminishing return for them because they are likely not playing unless someone wants to pay them big money to sit on the bench and join the practice squad. It still gives players the ability to transfer one time, similar to what they did prior to the NIL. It also incentivizes players to graduate if they want to move freely between teams.
Updates on UCF targets...
LB Teylor Jackson to Liberty
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LB Ethan Bar to Washington
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LB juco Walter Wyatt to NC State
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LB Branden Jennings reupped with Miss State
LB Randy "Deuce" Caldwell -- no updates
C Ethan Miller to Miss State
DE Daylan Dotson -- no updates
WR Jaden Richardson -- no updates
S Phillip Dunnam -- still an outside possibility
LB Teylor Jackson to Liberty
ECU transfer LB Teylor Jackson commits to Liberty
Liberty has picked up a commitment from East Carolina transfer linebacker Teylor Jackson. The commitment comes after a recent visit to Liberty for Jackson. Jackson is a 6’1″, 212 pound …
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LB Ethan Bar to Washington
Former Vanderbilt linebacker Ethan Barr announces commitment to Washington
Ethan Barr — a 6-foot-3, 245-pound inside linebacker and two-time captain at Vanderbilt — will transfer to Washington, he announced Saturday.
www.seattletimes.com
LB juco Walter Wyatt to NC State
JUCO Linebacker Wyatt Wright Commits to NC State!
NC State hosted JUCO Linebacker Wyatt Wright (6’2”/225) took an Official Visit this weekend, and now has verbally committed to run with the Wolfpack. “The strength of the pack is the wolf and the strength of the wolf is the PACK!” Go WolfPack🐺🩸#committed pic.twitter.com/LvM3PPAq5p — Wyatt Wright...
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LB Branden Jennings reupped with Miss State
LB Randy "Deuce" Caldwell -- no updates
C Ethan Miller to Miss State
DE Daylan Dotson -- no updates
WR Jaden Richardson -- no updates
S Phillip Dunnam -- still an outside possibility
LB in the portal from Mount Dora (J. Pierre). 66 tackles at Texas Tech this year, 4.5 sacks last season. Started career at Florida.
Interesting
Interesting
Has anyone other than TM been given any meaningful chance? Not on the field they haven't.
By my inaccurate count, UCF stands at 80 or 81 scholarships with graduates and outgoing transfers and incoming freshmen and incoming transfers.
Roughly 58 or 59 are slotted to return with 19 incoming freshmen and incoming three transfers.
Pending additional portal entrants or NFL declarations, UCF has four or five scholarships to give.
Roughly 58 or 59 are slotted to return with 19 incoming freshmen and incoming three transfers.
Pending additional portal entrants or NFL declarations, UCF has four or five scholarships to give.
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Doesn’t this need to account for any 5th and 6th year seniors returning? Medley is the only one I’m aware of but couldn’t there be others? Not saying the numbers are wrong, looks logical, just wondering if something was missing
The talent on UCF roster is mid. Nobody got drafted last year, one dude the prior year (never played for Malzon) and zero guys are forecasted to be drafted in the first three rounds next year.
It is presuming that every scholarship player who can return does; Rian Davis, JaMaric Morris, Patrick Barnett, and Gage King included.
Also, presumes all the walk-ons will not be awarded scholarships.
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I seem to recall you bragging on the ability of a "mid" transfer based on his production against a certain center developed by Herb Hand.
You have painted your azz into a corner from which you cannot escape. You either have to admit Hand is a hell of an OL coach to turn Matt Lee from a tub of lard/bag of sh*t into an NFL prospect. Or you have to admit that the u has slipped to the point where UCF ballers can shine in Corral Gables.
Or both.
Either way 'u' lose.
EDIT: Remember "like dissolves like" so one mid can perform well against another.
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I love it but my money is on TCU. He wants to reunite with Kendal Briles and TCU doesn't have a QB. He does need a program to counter offer what he is getting to drive up his NIL value. (He is listed as a 3 star transfer.)
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