Vegas shooting

[UCFBS]

Yes, this is exactly what ALL progressives think. You got it. Smart man. Very smart.

Progressives != Liberals -- Hillary Clinton is a perfect example of a Progressive

Hillary brought up suppressors today ... and just literally exposed her gross ignorance. I guess too many people have watched John Wick and think suppressors keep people from hearing guns. That's the state of knowledge in our country.

I have no problem with critically thinking Liberals.

 

[UCFBS]

I bet BS is also a vegan.

Actually, I do go full vegan some weeks, and prefer the 'raw' diet. I have a few food allergies that complicate a few things that are common, vegan replacements, so I rarely 'eat out' vegan. However ...

You would think he does cross fit, too.

Not quite, although I am down 25lbs., I still have at least 35lbs. to go in the next 6 months. Even doing 50 stories of stairs/day, I'm unlikely I'll hit my target.

My weight is finally catching up with my base vitals into my mid-40s, although I'm not remotely as heavy as I was just a decade ago (+50lbs). But I've gotta get back under 200lbs. or I'm really going to have issues in another decade.

But, I know what he looks like so that theory is shot to hell.

You guys assume what you want. I'm a staunch Libertarian and if you cannot argue with the meat, I don't know what to say.

 

[UCFBS]

Looks like NBC has the most objective article yet in the mainstream media:
- https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/l...as-shooter-seemed-use-machine-gun-how-n806786

They are really starting to add some very knowledgeable people on their staff.

We'll see once all the facts come out. If he used a stamped machine gun pre-'86, it would only be the 4th time since 1934. Well over 99% of all crimes with fully automatic weapons are organized crime, with the rare, illegal conversion of a legally obtained one.

People want to be political ... I just want to be logical.

Innocent people died. That is just wrong. Other people want to blame others, instead of standing together. That is also just wrong.

 

[crambone]

Horrible news.

 

[UCFKnight85]

The guy had terranite. He was attempting to kill hundreds more than he did. If he had detonated the amount of terranite he had, we would be talking about hundreds and hundreds dead with the hotel being mostly blown out.

Full blown domestic terrorist. Yet he had no religious beliefs and apparently no political beliefs. If you believe his family. What the hell.

 

[NinjaKnight]

The guy had terranite. He was attempting to kill hundreds more than he did. If he had detonated the amount of terranite he had, we would be talking about hundreds and hundreds dead with the hotel being mostly blown out.

Full blown domestic terrorist. Yet he had no religious beliefs and apparently no political beliefs. If you believe his family. What the hell.

*tannerite

I have always been amazed this stuff is legal. There are some crazy videos of people blowing up houses and entire herds of hogs. Most I ever used was a few pounds crammed into a 50 Cal ammo box, shit is nuts.

 

[UCFKnight85]

*tannerite

I have always been amazed this stuff is legal. There are some crazy videos of people blowing up houses and entire herds of hogs. Most I ever used was a few pounds crammed into a 50 Cal ammo box, shit is nuts.

SP*

Yes it's a bit insane to me. You can easily craft an explosive with this shit.

 

[YouSeeEffer]

Ohh is that the stuff that my redneck family fills up old grills and washing machines with before they shoot them with guns?

 

[btbones]

Ohh is that the stuff that my redneck family fills up old grills and washing machines with before they shoot them with guns?

Yes

 

[bluechip12]

Progressives != Liberals -- Hillary Clinton is a perfect example of a Progressive

Hillary brought up suppressors today ... and just literally exposed her gross ignorance. I guess too many people have watched John Wick and think suppressors keep people from hearing guns. That's the state of knowledge in our country.

I have no problem with critically thinking Liberals.

Do you even shoot or are you just regurgitating NRA talking points? I've shot using a Silencerco suppressor recently and it absolutely prevents people from hearing guns. Is it 100% silent if you're standing a few feet away? No. Could I kill a neighbor without anyone hearing a thing? Absolutely.

 

[SublimeKnight]

Do you even shoot or are you just regurgitating NRA talking points? I've shot using a Silencerco suppressor recently and it absolutely prevents people from hearing guns. Is it 100% silent if you're standing a few feet away? No. Could I kill a neighbor without anyone hearing a thing? Absolutely.

For your sake, I hope none of your neighbors are shot, after posting that. Actually prison probably wouldn't be too bad for you, I bet most are UF fans.

 

[UCFKnight85]

Do you even shoot or are you just regurgitating NRA talking points? I've shot using a Silencerco suppressor recently and it absolutely prevents people from hearing guns. Is it 100% silent if you're standing a few feet away? No. Could I kill a neighbor without anyone hearing a thing? Absolutely.

There is a ton wrong with this entire post but I'll just focus on advising you that someone who in the past made threatening posts, promising violence against other board members, probably shouldn't be wondering aloud about how effectively they could murder their neighbors.

 

[Knight_Light]

Hillary fired off some tweets which got some direct responses:





Which brought some interesting responses:

 

[Great2BAKnight2]

Hillary fired off some tweets which got some direct responses:

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Let's put politics aside and talk politics.

 

[UCFWayne]

i find it extremely hard to believe that this guy wasnt religious or no party affiliation. has there been any news about a letter or manifesto? this thing was methodical, it just doesnt add up.

 

[btbones]

i find it extremely hard to believe that this guy wasnt religious or no party affiliation. has there been any news about a letter or manifesto? this thing was methodical, it just doesnt add up.

Craziest shit ever .

 

[bqknight]

i find it extremely hard to believe that this guy wasnt religious or no party affiliation. has there been any news about a letter or manifesto? this thing was methodical, it just doesnt add up.

So far....nothing.

 

[Ace of Knights]

I get the feeling the girlfriend is about to get a lot of scrutiny. How convenient that she was out of the country when he did this.

The guy had over 30 firearms, thousands of rounds of ammo, and a shit ton of explosives. A lot of it bought recently.

Who in their right mind is going to think that’s normal, and all of a sudden she goes to the Philippines. How convenient.

 

[SublimeKnight]

i find it extremely hard to believe that this guy wasnt religious or no party affiliation. has there been any news about a letter or manifesto? this thing was methodical, it just doesnt add up.

You should prepare yourself for the likely reality that there was no great evil at play here. There's no one to exact revenge on. That all these people died because he was chemically imbalanced and possibly hated country music.

 

[Ace of Knights]

You should prepare yourself for the likely reality that there was no great evil at play here. There's no one to exact revenge on. That all these people died because he was chemically imbalanced and possibly hated country music.

Apparently he loved country music.

 

[SublimeKnight]

Hillary fired off some tweets which got some direct responses

SMH...
The richest empire the world has ever known.
An estimated 120 million, literate, eligible presidential candidates. These were our choices?

 

[Knight_Light]

i find it extremely hard to believe that this guy wasnt religious or no party affiliation. has there been any news about a letter or manifesto? this thing was methodical, it just doesnt add up.

Seems to be his favorite past time was gambling...both in the real estate market (had a lot of success) and in casinos (had some up and down years).

His girlfriend was a former VIP Host for Big Whales (,which is how they met).

They did report that he lost tens of thousands of $$ over the last few weeks while gambling...but no clue if that's what pushed him over the edge.

He supposedly played some at Mandalay Bay this past weekend and even won $$ during St least one session.

He has obviously stockpiled these weapons for a long time so something was probably "up" (in regards to a plan) a long time ago.

I did find it somewhat interesting that his brother in Orlando (contacted by authorities asking about password to his brother's computers) said yesterday that "he built" his brother's computers. Maybe it was his hobby or maybe his brother wanted some computers that could easily hide stuff?

Why would someone with as much cash as this shooter had who could buy ANY computer he would want asked his brother to build him some computers?

 

[UCFWayne]

You should prepare yourself for the likely reality that there was no great evil at play here. There's no one to exact revenge on. That all these people died because he was chemically imbalanced and possibly hated country music.

my only problem is that he clearly didnt just snap. this was meticulously planned. there had to be a reason. clearly the investigators know something and are trying to chase down leads as fast as they can. Im sure it will come out in the weeks to come.

 

[UCFKnight85]

I get the feeling the girlfriend is about to get a lot of scrutiny. How convenient that she was out of the country when he did this.

The guy had over 30 firearms, thousands of rounds of ammo, and a shit ton of explosives. A lot of it bought recently.

Who in their right mind is going to think that’s normal, and all of a sudden she goes to the Philippines. How convenient.

There is absolutely nothing unusual about someone living in the rural west to own a lot of firearms and to have a lot of cartridges in their safe. I know guys who live in Idaho that have 2-3 safes' worth of firearms and ammo. I personally have 10 firearms and a few thousand rounds in my safe. I can easily go through a few hundred rounds on any given day at the range. If I take someone with me, going through 300-500 rounds or more is easy.

What is unusual is buying material to make explosives. And tons of it.

I guarantee you this "roommate" knew something. There is absolutely no way this guy had been plotting to carry out a terrorist attack without giving out clues or hints that it was coming.

 

[Knight_Light]

I get the feeling the girlfriend is about to get a lot of scrutiny. How convenient that she was out of the country when he did this.

Who in their right mind is going to think that’s normal, and all of a sudden she goes to the Philippines. How convenient.

One report noted he had wired thousands of $$$ to her in the Philippines, as in maybe she wasn't coming back?

Others noted she will reportedly cooperate and head back to the USA soon.

 

[UCFRogerz]

Seems to be his favorite past time was gambling...both in the real estate market (had a lot of success) and in casinos (had some up and down years).

His girlfriend was a former VIP Host for Big Whales (,which is how they met).

They did report that he lost tens of thousands of $$ over the last few weeks while gambling...but no clue if that's what pushed him over the edge.

He supposedly played some at Mandalay Bay this past weekend and even won $$ during St least one session.

He has obviously stockpiled these weapons for a long time so something was probably "up" (in regards to a plan) a long time ago.

I did find it somewhat interesting that his brother in Orlando (contacted by authorities asking about password to his brother's computers) said yesterday that "he built" his brother's computers. Maybe it was his hobby or maybe his brother wanted some computers that could easily hide stuff?

Why would someone with as much cash as this shooter had who could buy ANY computer he would want asked his brother to build him some computers?

Please stop. Your age is showing. Building a PC isn't some dark art. You can't just go to Best Buy and get a top-top of the line computer. Actually, you made this point by saying he could buy ANY computer he wanted and you could easily spend $10k on a custom top of the line computer using the latest and greatest components. Try finding that at Circuit City.

 

[Ace of Knights]

There is absolutely nothing unusual about someone living in the rural west to own a lot of firearms and to have a lot of cartridges in their safe. I know guys who live in Idaho that have 2-3 safes' worth of firearms and ammo. I personally have 10 firearms and a few thousand rounds in my safe. I can easily go through a few hundred rounds on any given day at the range. If I take someone with me, going through 300-500 rounds or more is easy.

What is unusual is buying material to make explosives. And tons of it.

I guarantee you this "roommate" knew something. There is absolutely no way this guy had been plotting to carry out a terrorist attack without giving out clues or hints that it was coming.

I’m more commenting on his recent activity. The explosives in particular. You can’t tell me someone didn’t notice. The girlfriend should be suspect #1.

 

[UCFKnight85]

Please stop. Your age is showing. Building a PC isn't some dark art. You can't just go to Best Buy and get a top-top of the line computer. Actually, you made this point by saying he could buy ANY computer he wanted and you could easily spend $10k on a custom top of the line computer using the latest and greatest components. Try finding that at Circuit City.

Every gaming enthusiast is a suspect! Super computers!!!

 

[Great2BAKnight2]

I did find it somewhat interesting that his brother in Orlando (contacted by authorities asking about password to his brother's computers) said yesterday that "he built" his brother's computers. Maybe it was his hobby or maybe his brother wanted some computers that could easily hide stuff?

Why would someone with as much cash as this shooter had who could buy ANY computer he would want asked his brother to build him some computers?

You get more for your money by building your own computer. Just because he can afford a $2000 MAC doesn't mean he has to buy one. He can be a millionaire and be thrifty; those are not mutually exclusive.

There could be something to your theory, but I wouldn't jump to that conclusion without evidence.

 

[UCFKnight85]

I’m more commenting on his recent activity. The explosives in particular. You can’t tell me someone didn’t notice. The girlfriend should be suspect #1.

I can't believe there isn't some sort of ID check required to buy that shit. I had to have my ID scanned a few years ago when I was buying simple ephedrine pills for an allergic reaction. You'd think someone buying tannerite in large volumes would be flagged.

 

[UCFBS]

Do you even shoot or are you just regurgitating NRA talking points? I've shot using a Silencerco suppressor recently and it absolutely prevents people from hearing guns. Is it 100% silent if you're standing a few feet away? No. Could I kill a neighbor without anyone hearing a thing? Absolutely.

I'm an engineer. And I'm tired of the NRA, who should hire the USCCA as their PR.

Suppressed subsonic is more quiet, yes. But it's still loud enough to hear without ear protection. You should still wear ear protection with subsonic suppressed, which is why most people think it's silent, because they still wear ear protection.

Nearly all ammo is supersonic, and capable of damaging the ear. Suppressed, it's still loud, but doesn't break the levels that can damage the ear, unless a very large caliber and energy.

No offense but people have watched John Wick movies too much. The shootout in the NY Transit would have made everyone down that hallway look at them.

 

[NinjaKnight]

Let's put politics aside and talk politics.

Not only did this bitch straight up contradict herself with her asinine politics statement, but she was completely wrong. She said people ran at the sound of gunshots. While all the reports said people thought the noise was fireworks, and only ran after seeing the bodies. She is 100% using a tragedy to blatantly push her anti suppressor agenda as the Hearing Protection Act was about to be voted on.

**** this politicizing ignorant ****.

 

[UCFBS]

Not only did this bitch straight up contradict herself with her asinine politics statement, but she was completely wrong. She said people ran at the sound of gunshots. While all the reports said people thought the noise was fireworks, and only ran after seeing the bodies. She is 100% using a tragedy to blatantly push her anti suppressor agenda as the Hearing Protection Act was about to be voted on.

**** this politicizing ignorant ****.

People who have been around firearms know what they sound like.
People who don't ... don't.

Considering 70% of the US population hasn't, this is the result.
Ignorance is in the eye of the beholder.

 

[bluechip12]

There is a ton wrong with this entire post but I'll just focus on advising you that someone who in the past made threatening posts, promising violence against other board members, probably shouldn't be wondering aloud about how effectively they could murder their neighbors.

Dude, you have perhaps the worst anger management issues of anyone on the board and you talk about your ever expanding gun collection and your stockpiling of ammo nearly every single week. Get outta here with that silliness.

 

[bluechip12]

For your sake, I hope none of your neighbors are shot, after posting that. Actually prison probably wouldn't be too bad for you, I bet most are UF fans.

Well, thank you for being more concerned about my future than of the lives of my innocent neighbors.*

 

[UCFWayne]

Dude, you have perhaps the worst anger management issues of anyone on the board and you talk about your ever expanding gun collection and your stockpiling of ammo nearly every single week. Get outta here with that silliness.

did you try to meet someone on this board to fight them?

 

[NinjaKnight]

did you try to meet someone on this board to fight them?

Oh you sweet summer child

 

[UCFKnight85]

Dude, you have perhaps the worst anger management issues of anyone on the board and you talk about your ever expanding gun collection and your stockpiling of ammo nearly every single week. Get outta here with that silliness.

Lol. Let me know when you try to track down board members to fight again. Nutjob

 

[UCFBS]

Dude, you have perhaps the worst anger management issues of anyone on the board and you talk about your ever expanding gun collection and your stockpiling of ammo nearly every single week. Get outta here with that silliness.

I have no problem with 'preppers.' In fact, if the 'fits hit the shan,' he's the first guy you'll go to for food and protection.

That's what gets me about Progressives, they never take the responsibility of freedom seriously, and just want to inhibit the most responsible, most self-sufficient, Americans.

It's the same reason I like to hang out with people who conceal carry. If I go into an establishment with them, I feel much safer.

Now ... where a critically thinking Liberal differentiates themselves from a Progressive here is pointing out this fact ...

I have had to tell my conservative friends that "concealed carry" wouldn't have done squat in this situation. Firing up at someone 300m+ away is something you need a rifle for, and ideally a 6mm+ round too. And few disagree.

Even one of the country music artists have pointed this out. But, still, only 2% of crimes committed in the US are with rifles. So for the other 98% of cases, "concealed carry" is still very viable.

 

[bluechip12]

did you try to meet someone on this board to fight them?

Negative.