*VOTER FRAUD MEGATHREAD*
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Slashing voting precincts is one.
Why Do Nonwhite Georgia Voters Have To Wait In Line For Hours? Too Few Polling Places
The state's voter rolls have grown by nearly 2 million since the U.S. Supreme Court gutted the Voting Rights Act in 2013, but polling locations have been cut by almost 10%.
www.npr.org
It’s mitigated by the mail in ability this year.
Trump Laments Georgia Recount's Signature Verification Block
Democrat operative Stacey Abrams effectively placed a preemptive block of signature verification on ballots in Georgia's hand recount, President Donald Trump lamented Saturday.www.newsmax.com
I will tell you one thing. That is so inaccurate of reporting I cannot believe they ran with it. This issue was earlier this year. Early in 2020...
The president appears to be referring to a consent decree from earlier in 2020 which concerned signature matching on mail-in ballots. The Election Board and Secretary of State agreed to it and Georgia Governor as well. Abrams spoke to the Los Angeles Times about the decree on October 4.2020
"[Y]ou could always vote by mail, that was never a problem. The issue was they threw out your ballot if there was a signature mismatch, which was twice as likely if you were Black or Latino, five times as likely if you're young," Abrams said.
"And a fairly high percentage of immigrants had their ballots thrown out. We were able to get a consent decree earlier this year where you'd get to fix your ballot if they think there's a problem."
A consent decree is an agreement entered into by parties to settle a dispute without admission of guilt or liability. As such, it was necessary for the state of Georgia to agree to it. This is what Trump has complained about on Twitter. This happened way before the Election.
The consent decree came into focus again this week when well-known Georgia attorney L. Lin Wood filed suit against Raffensperger, claiming the secretary of state "unilaterally, and without the approval or direction of the Georgia General Assembly, changed the process for handling absentee ballots in Georgia, including those case in the general election."
Raffensperger's deputy, Jordan Fuchs, called the suit a "Silly baseless claim— grasping."
"Signature match is intact and the General Assembly passed legislation to allow voters who failed to include a signature time to add one," Fuchs said.
"We strengthened signature match, and will continue to do so, period."
However, the president has highlighted the consent decree as part of his campaign's ongoing claims of voter fraud, which are unsubstantiated. They have filed lawsuits in several states.
Trump Rails Against Georgia for Consent Decree Aimed at Helping Minorities
The Trump campaign has repeatedly made unsubstantiated claims of voter fraud in several key states.
www.newsweek.com
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it’s really easy to get more votes if you get past all the voter suppression tactics that have been put in place to specifically lower the access to voting for a significant portion of the population
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Actually, Stacy Abrams And her Voting group helped register over 800,000 new voters mostly Black voters. She is why Biden won Georgia. Since her loss 2 years ago for Governor, she has turned Georgia Blue. She is a Harvard graduate Super Smart Lady. She is working on securing 2 seats now in Congress Congress may turn blue because of her. Biden will give her a great position. I would secure her.
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Actually, Stacy Abrams And her Voting group helped register over 800,000 new voters mostly Black voters. She is why Biden won Georgia. Since her loss 2 years ago for Governor, she has turned Georgia Blue. She is a Harvard graduate Super Smart Lady. She is working on securing 2 seats now in Congress Congress may turn blue because of her. Biden will give her a great position. I would secure her.
"How curious that, as Baris notes, “Trump won the largest non-white vote share for a Republican presidential candidate in 60 years. Biden underperformed Hillary Clinton in every major metro area around the country, save for Milwaukee, Detroit, Atlanta and Philadelphia.”
Robert Barnes, the foremost election analyst, observes in these “big cities in swing states run by Democrats…the vote even exceeded the number of registered voters.”
Trump’s victories in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin were on target until, in the middle of the night, counting was arbitrarily halted. Miraculously, several hundred thousand votes – all for Biden – were mysteriously ‘found’; Trump’s real leads subsequently vanished.
The protracted, eventual outcome will determine the contemporary relevance of Stalin’s observation. No matter who wins, most pollsters already have lost their credibility and influence."
Robert Barnes, the foremost election analyst, observes in these “big cities in swing states run by Democrats…the vote even exceeded the number of registered voters.”
Trump’s victories in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin were on target until, in the middle of the night, counting was arbitrarily halted. Miraculously, several hundred thousand votes – all for Biden – were mysteriously ‘found’; Trump’s real leads subsequently vanished.
The protracted, eventual outcome will determine the contemporary relevance of Stalin’s observation. No matter who wins, most pollsters already have lost their credibility and influence."
Biden underperformed Clinton in Philly though. He out performed her in all the red counties. Just because you say something that sounds good doesn’t make it true.
It does if you knew ahead of time the proportion of voters who requested mail ins. And we did. There were huge spreads in Penn going in. Several weeks before the spread was near 50 points in favor of democrats.
Pennsylvania Mail-in Ballot Requests Hit 2.8 Million, Including 700,000 GOP Voters
Nearly 1.8 million voters registered as Democrats have requested mail-in ballots, more than 1 million more than Republican voters. That disparity could mean determining a winner in the battleground state may take a few days after Nov. 3.
www.nbcphiladelphia.com
Pennsylvania doesn’t have early voting either so if you didn’t want to show up with a bunch of maskless chuds on Election Day the only option was mail in.
Weird how all of these issues that are brought up can easily be dismissed as nothing since the democrat won, but we needed a 3 year inquiry on whether Russian memes got a republican elected.
The vote switching conspiracy du jour has been debunked already. Also all counties have their vote totals and are check in recanvassing. On top of that they keep the actual ballots that were counted.
Of course they have been. Biden won so naturally they would have already been debunked. Nothing to see here, please disperse and worry about Russian memes next time around. Thats the real danger.
They are dismissed as nothing because they are made up. Russian interference was confirmed. But votes in 2016 were legally cast so nothing to be done about it.
I wonder what the response would be on the left if a judge unilaterally changed election laws in a state to only allow in-person voting with photo ID, strictly on election day.
I'm cool with that, just as long as we have a multi million dollar, 3 year long investigation into this. It won't matter by 2024 but we need to get to the bottom of these allegations.
They have already investigated, but as the claims are based on things that are made up it has already completed.
Wow. So multi-year investigations aren't necessary to get to the bottom of things now? What changed? That's pretty crazy that it took only a week to dismiss allegations of vote tampering this time. Trump must have really fixed the system.
Yeah his administration said it was the most secure in history. The Mueller investigation took so long because there were so many people indicted for crimes. This one is pretty open in shut since it only exists in the minds of people who cannot admit they lost and isn’t base on actual evidence. Unless they got some hits on the hotline that I’m unaware of.
The last one only existed because people couldn't accept the fact that they lost. Had to be the Russians. This time its voting machines and by golly we need to get to the bottom of this for the sake of knowing our elections are secure.
The last one existed because there was credible evidence of criminal activity which led to 37 indictments and several Trump associates behind bars.
None of which had anything to do with Russian interference in our election.
Welcome to the thread about election fraud. It's sorta what the whole thing is about.
Oh. The investigation that had no basis in reality whatsoever but we did it anyway at a cost of millions of dollars? Weird. Almost like we should do the same thing now.
It had a basis in reality and put many behind bars. Again 37 indictments. Trumps made up fraud shit is getting lawyers laughed out of the court room. The investigation wasn’t about Russian election interference. Russian election interference has been known for some time, confirmed by intelligence agencies, and is ongoing.
Sorry, but Hillarys made up BS led to 3 years worth of investigations. No basis in fact whatsoever but there were lots of indictments anyways. We need to have that same level of investigation this time, regardless of if you think it's legit or not.
They just have to determine which conspiracy they are going to investigate as the first 10 or so were debunked immediately.
By who? Have we had thorough investigations that have determined them to be debunked like all of the Trump allegations?
Combinations of math, common sense, courts, actual events, etc. it’s been a team effort.
Those people weren’t brought up on any charges related to collusion with Russia though. Well, except for the token Russians he indicted that he knows will never set foot in a US courtroom and thus he never has to produce evidence against. The Americans were all process crimes meant to flip them on Trump. In the end, there was not one indictment or anything close to one on the reason for the investigation.
Yeah the only person that may get charges related to that is Trump once he is out of office. The Mueller report stated that they didn’t recommend charges because he is the sitting president. It didn’t exonerate him and went as far as to highlight that point. Trump used executive privilege to prevent congress from accessing the unredacted report. I have no idea if he colluded directly with Russia , but he definitely benefited from their interference and indirectly encouraged them to do it.
Now, which voter fraud deep state conspiracy are we investigating for the next 3 years with Biden at the helm?
Where did you hear that BS gem?
What about Roger Stone?, Michael Flynn?, George Papadopoulos?, Richard Pinedo?, and while Trump's campaign manager, Paul Manafort was such a scheming scumbag, that the Feds got him on a zillion other things, it came out during his trial that he gave the Russians election polling data -- and then lied about it.
Could have been shit like this too. The guy admittedly is not too bright.
Trump asked Russia to find Clinton’s emails. On or around the same day, Russians targeted her accounts
"Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing, I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press," Trump said in a July 27, 2016, news conference.
www.pbs.org
It was never the job of a prosecutor to exonerate anyone. That mentality is one of guilty until proven innocent. Mueller’s job was to find enough evidence to successfully prosecute Trump. After the most expensive and most thorough investigation in the history of the US, Mueller did not find evidence to meet that standard. He did publish a bunch of places where he thought there might be more evidence, but he did not have chargeable evidence. That was why no charges were recommended.
The house impeached on a question in a phone call that was perfectly reasonable and warranted given later information. Had Mueller recommended actual charges and then said he couldn’t charge the sitting President, the House would’ve run with it like Meb. But he didn’t and they couldn’t because it simply didn’t happen.
Yeah, right.
The only thing that kept Trump from being thrown out of office for all of his shenanigans was his toadie Attorney General and Mitch McConnel and his Senate flock.
I guess we will know once his executive privilege expires and the unredacted report is available.
Sure. I mean, we’ve only heard of four years about the smoking guns of Trump’s evilness and corruption. Maybe this will finally reveal something of true substance and not more speculation. But ask yourself this, with the way so much has leaked out of the Administration, do you think there’s any chance that anything turned up by the investigation that was revelatory wouldn’t have been spewed across every media outlet over the last year?
I still would like to know why the left doesn't want any of this to be fully inspected and meted out in court. Wouldn't it be better for the 73 million Trump voters to know they lost fair and square? Worst case scenario, it increases confidence in our election system.
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