The thing is that the prosecution piled on a bunch of witnesses (another appealable aspect) and so the defense has to do something to counter that. You can see from Shook's opinions that piling on works with some people.
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At this point, unless this expert can say that Floyd had a high level of carbon monoxide in his blood the jury is going to be really irritated.
Also, he's only been on the stand for 2 hours. He's even introducing a new factor into the low oxygen equation and that is CO/CO2 from the exhaust of the SUV.
I think they're going for a cumulative effect of all of these factors causing reasonable doubt. The other thing is that they're likely to let the defense have their say after sitting through 2 weeks of state witnesses. Now, if the cross goes long, I'd agree with you.
lol, you're a Nebraska fan with Frost as your coach. Can you ever really say something's over until everyone goes home?
Well played.
In this case, I don't see any way the prosecution is going to overcome his testimony. It went from being mundane and long winded to concise and very detailed. This is devastating to the prosecution.
It's amazing to watch. It's a consensus among all of their experts that nothing this guy said made any difference and that only the prosecution witnesses under direct are of value. Hilarious to see the bias.
Yeah. Hilarious in an extremely sad and terrible way. It's just fosters more unnecessary racial divide. I hope all turns out well for your kids in Minneapolis.
They just brought up the fact that he's from South Africa so he is probably racially biased. What. The. Hell.
No, it was on the news. Not in the trial. They are also talking about how he is being sued for being a witness in another trial where a black person was killed by a white cop. They are setting the narrative.
So the state, who has dropped over 5,000 pieces of evidence during this trial on Nelson to include all of Dr. Tobin's material the night before his testimony, just objected that they didn't get enough time to review some of the things Fowler testified to in court. Hypocrisy at it's finest.
Gotcha. What a bunch of bullshit. What's truly sad is that the MSNBC crowd won't even question it and will hungrily swallow it.
No way the judge will sustain that objection. If he did, an appeal would be a pretty easy decision for the appellate court, and judges really don't like to be overturned by their superiors.
Lol smart showing him chewing gum in the store so attacks his creditably from the start and the jury can just tune out for the rest of the day
He's badgered, been argumentative, misrepresented what was in a text and had to read it and showed he misrepresented, and he's basically testified himself at times. This witness has been night-and-day better than the use-of-force expert. This witness will not let Blackwell badger him into answers and will not testify outside of his expertise. This is what Brodd should've done.
Now Blackwell is asking about whether the pathologist did any EELV calculations on Floyd while he was in different positions. Of course he didn't. And neither did Dr. Tobin, the state's witness who claimed that he could figure everything out beyond a reasonable doubt just from looking at a video.
The questions about paraganglioma are exceedingly frustrating because Blackwell is intentionally misleading the jury hoping the defense doesn't have a witness that can call him on it. There are two types of paraganglioma: sympathetic and parasympathetic. Parasympathetic are most often found in the head and neck area and most often (90% of the time) do not release adrenaline. Sympathetic are found in the abdomen and hip area and all of these produce adrenaline. Guess where George Floyd's paraganglioma lived? Yup in the abdomen/hip area, which means it is almost certainly a sympathetic paraganglioma and almost certainly releasing adrenaline.
In addition, these don't release adrenaline all the time. Instead, they store it up and release it all at once. Can you guess when that occurs? If you guessed under times of exertion and stress, you'd be absolutely right.
I really hope Nelson catches Blackwell on his bullshit.
In addition, these don't release adrenaline all the time. Instead, they store it up and release it all at once. Can you guess when that occurs? If you guessed under times of exertion and stress, you'd be absolutely right.
I really hope Nelson catches Blackwell on his bullshit.
He's really not coming across very well with his tone. The number of sidebars are pretty good evidence of that.
Another interesting passage. Note that Floyd said he was being choked earlier when Chauvin had his arm around Floyd's neck but then didn't say it when Floyd's knee was supposedly on his neck and cutting off air.
"Blackwell: These weren't scenes you had paid special attention to before? Hadn't seen that?
I had seen these sections, you said BEFORE he went into squad 320.
Know if when Floyd was into and before he was pulled out, did he say I'm getting choked?
I believe he did, yes.
Don't need to be a doctor, if someone feels they are getting choked, that would be a good reason they would say they can't breath?
Yes."
"Blackwell: These weren't scenes you had paid special attention to before? Hadn't seen that?
I had seen these sections, you said BEFORE he went into squad 320.
Know if when Floyd was into and before he was pulled out, did he say I'm getting choked?
I believe he did, yes.
Don't need to be a doctor, if someone feels they are getting choked, that would be a good reason they would say they can't breath?
Yes."
"Blackwell: He's subdued and restrained on ground Chauvin is on neck and back, did Floyd at any time manifest either sleepiness a lack of awareness, not arousable, that sort of thing.
Not until he lost conscouisness.
When someone dies of fentanyl overdose, hallmark is sleepy, unarousable, pass away in a coma.
Correct, if passing away from fentanyl overdose.
Floyd manifesting none of thse.
Correct, doesn't exclude possibility want' having depressive effect on respiration.
Did you not agree respiration was in ballpark of 22 breaths a minute? Normal?
Yes.
Blackwell: So not depressed?
Unless he should have been breathing at higher rate for other causes.
You have no baseline?
Fowler: Person short of oxygen to brain will increase respiratory rate to more than 30."
QUICK, SWITCH SUBJECT TO PILLS!!
Not until he lost conscouisness.
When someone dies of fentanyl overdose, hallmark is sleepy, unarousable, pass away in a coma.
Correct, if passing away from fentanyl overdose.
Floyd manifesting none of thse.
Correct, doesn't exclude possibility want' having depressive effect on respiration.
Did you not agree respiration was in ballpark of 22 breaths a minute? Normal?
Yes.
Blackwell: So not depressed?
Unless he should have been breathing at higher rate for other causes.
You have no baseline?
Fowler: Person short of oxygen to brain will increase respiratory rate to more than 30."
QUICK, SWITCH SUBJECT TO PILLS!!
Yes, yes he did. After his own experts said there was no safe level or reason for therapeutic.
As well as they did yesterday, the prosecution totally bombed today. Blackwell was absolutely terrible, and resting after 2 questions were objected to was a really really bad way to end the day.
If I'm Nelson, I wouldn't call any witnesses at this point that carry any substantive value that could possbly flip the narrative. He can't overcome the human factor, so just let the facts that have been presented be the end of the story.
They didn't rest so he will call more witnesses. I can see a toxicologist and endocrine specialist since he's been pounding the drug and adrenaline angles so much. Then possibly a pulmonary specialist to say that calculating EELV from a video is stupid and a cardiologist to talk to the enlarged heart and it's needs.
I'm just saying that at this point in time, I'm not sure it's worth the risk. Call it now and it's an acquittal. If the state calls additional witnesses, follow suit after that if necessary.
LMAO. An hour before they said, "Now the defense seeks to undo the damage they've done with this witness..."
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