The cyber is yuge, but when we get to space kyber security is going to be bigger. We cant allow the commies to take over the jedi temple and build a deathstar as the prophecy foretold.
Who is joining the Space Force?
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The cyber is yuge, but when we get to space kyber security is going to be bigger. We cant allow the commies to take over the jedi temple and build a deathstar as the prophecy foretold.
We have some of the worst infrastructure of the developed world, and even some of the under-developed world, and you're not sure we should dump money into it or not?
we certainly have an aging infrastructure that is in need of repair, but i wouldnt make the claims he did. of course im not heavily medicated either
Data actually runs the whole gamut. The Global Economic Forum ranks the U.S.A. 9th in their infrastructure category, but we were 25th just a few years ago. They do break out the categories fairly liberally, and are looking at infrastructure from an economic perspective rather than a more personal social level.
Looking at a lower level, our health and education ranking is 29th. Roads and railroads are 10th, and Air Travel is 9th, which I honestly find surprising. Police Service, 22. Infant Mortality, 40. Life Expectancy, 27. Quality of Primary Education, 11th while Primary Education Enrollment is 84th.
Another notable one: Government Debt, 125th. So the next time anyone tells you that those socialists in Europe are going broke, you can tell them we are more broke.
That is one source...
The World Health Organization states only 89% of our population "Safely Managed Sanitation Services," which lags behind many countries.
WHO ranks the U.S. 60th in Road Safety.
The American Society of Civil Engineers ranks our infrastructure a D+, and they are extremely critical of our infrastructure on many levels. https://www.infrastructurereportcard.org/
AirHelp air rankings place the U.S. airports and airlines much lower than the GEF ranking suggest, practically slamming U.S. air transportation quality. (This was what I was expecting. As an anecdote, I've been in airports in Cambodia and Indonesia that are better than Miami, Newark, LA, KC, blah, blah, blah)
So, my statement above isn't conclusively supported by evidence, but there is some evidence to support as well as some evidence to the contrary...and there is much more out there, as well. But, I would say that the bottom line is the U.S. has far too much debt and very little to show for it compared to many of those evil socialist countries out there.
Aside from our bridges which I do think are a huge concern given that many of them are failing, this talk about our HORRIBLE INFRASTRUCTURE! is typically just a load of bullshit.
It's really not that bad.
There are individual rankings on specific infrastructure sectors that routinely rank us in the Top 10 worldwide. I've flown around the US to pretty much every corner of the country and can say that many of our Regional Airports are far, far better than many national hubs in Europe.
We often get dinged for not having some massive national rail service but that's just dumb too.
It's really not that bad.
There are individual rankings on specific infrastructure sectors that routinely rank us in the Top 10 worldwide. I've flown around the US to pretty much every corner of the country and can say that many of our Regional Airports are far, far better than many national hubs in Europe.
We often get dinged for not having some massive national rail service but that's just dumb too.
youve been going pretty crazy on the forum the past several days. maybe you should.
but hey maybe trump will legalize pot soon and you can smoke one and mellow out a bit. im sure youd give him credit for it.
Of course you would write this. You're a simpleton, and rather than analyze the situation thoroughly you simply stick to a single anecdote and run. You and 85 are very much alike. You're incapable of rational thought and analysis. Even when you are wrong, you refuse to admit it. You believe things that are not true, and refuse to admit it. You are idiots.
I, on the other hand, freely admit that my comment isn't 100% supported, but there is plenty of evidence to support my claim, there is nothing that could be considered conclusive.
Who ever said pot needs to be federally legalized in order for people to get their hands on it?
You clearly don't understand how logic works. It is impossible to "disprove" something. Why do you think people still believe in God?
I have an 11-inch penis and use it every night, sometimes three times, to please your mother and 85's wife.
You can't disprove my statement, therefore it is true. (that's not how any of this works)
9/10. . Solid post that made me laugh . Would have given you 10/10 but decided to put Party first
Ummm, in 2017 the House committee approved this exact measure, 60 out of 61 bi-partisan representatives, all but 1 Democratic representative.
But suddenly when Trump announces what Congressional appropriations has consistently recommended, it's "bad"?! Bill Nelson is the biggest hypocrite on this. Even he voted for it in Senate appropriations last year.
This is how partisan-stupid the Clinton-Media-Progressive engine looks to the entire defense industry.
Actually, SECDEF Mattis is against it.
But the reformed Space Council recommended it.
But the reformed Space Council recommended it.
we are 2 pages in and i still cant believe no one has shared a single meme....
Listen to these Democrats (and Republicans) give grave warnings about how SECDEF Mattis and President Trump are ignoring the major threat of not having a "Space Corps" that is an independent branch that reports to the USAF like the USMC does to the USN.
Furthermore ...
This is a prime example of the Clinton-Media-Progressive engine at work.
'“We could be deaf, dumb and blind within seconds,” House Armed Services Strategic Forces ranking member Jim Cooper, D-Tenn., said Wednesday at a Center for Strategic and International Studies forum on space. “Seldom has a great nation been so vulnerable.”
By year’s end, Rogers, R-Ala., expects an independent report, required by the 2018 defense policy law, about how that process might look.
Rogers and Cooper argue it’s necessary for the military to have a dedicated space force because the Air Force let space capability atrophy in favor of more traditional air needs.'
By year’s end, Rogers, R-Ala., expects an independent report, required by the 2018 defense policy law, about how that process might look.
Rogers and Cooper argue it’s necessary for the military to have a dedicated space force because the Air Force let space capability atrophy in favor of more traditional air needs.'
Furthermore ...
'U.S. military officials have acknowledged that America’s adversaries have caught up to it in space, but classified reports paint a even more troubling picture, the lawmakers said. Rogers called the over-classification of such information “disturbing.”
“There would be a hew and cry in the American public to fix this situation if they knew how bad things were and what we’ve allowed Russia and China to do,” Rogers said.'
Interesting how Trump reforms the National Space Council (NSC) last year to look in these complaints from Congress, and this year, decides to reverse course and support exactly what they asked for last year.“There would be a hew and cry in the American public to fix this situation if they knew how bad things were and what we’ve allowed Russia and China to do,” Rogers said.'
This is a prime example of the Clinton-Media-Progressive engine at work.
https://www.defenseone.com/politics...-alternatives-independent-space-force/153119/
this is very sad news. i was hoping for space force to become a thing. now its not looking very good....
this is very sad news. i was hoping for space force to become a thing. now its not looking very good....
The reality is that Space Operations in the US military is pretty fractured ... and incomplete. One of the reasons even Democrats were pushing for a new Space Corps-Force (until Trump was for it) -- which would report to the USAF like the USMC does the USN -- is because the USAF has been negligent in its capabilities.
This is a repeat theme with the USAF, where they ignore Army needs on CAS (and partially rely on the USMC), their own needs on EW (and have to compeltely rely on the US Navy), and their Space Command utterly doesn't help any other forces. In fact, it's very segmented inside the USAF itself, while the US Navy fully integrates space operations, without a separate command at all.
E.g., when the Marines need space capabilities. the US Navy provides them as part of anything else, already integrated. When the Army ... or even Coast Guard ... needs space capabilities, they often contract out, or use the US Navy -- if an option at all -- because the USAF doesn't provide them, and has a lot segmented in various ways. Yet, the USAF is solely tasked with many operations.
That's the problem. This is why I've had serious issues with the USAF for a long time, and why the Chiefs, Pentagon and Administration need to start talking roles away from them. Heck, the whole V-22 and, now, V-280 is turning into the AH-56 all over again, with the USAF balking at the US Army, all while the USAF continues to try to kill the A-10 and get out of the CAS business altogether.
Virtually everything the USAF fought the Army on ... from the A-10 to the AH-64 ... ended up winning the Gulf War.
Heck, the USMC has even been helping the US Army with re-using Vietnam-era OV-10s too.
One more reason I think most of the USAF should be folded back into the US Army, but that's another discussion.
trump has a way with words. the idea for creating space force was sound and like you said, both dems and reps were for it. of course dems mostly stopped liking the idea when trump said it because orange man is bad.
people forget that the airforce didnt just always exist. we will eventually need a space force. id argue its past due. but gov normally runs slow.
either way i hope this doesnt kill off all the cool space force memes.
people forget that the airforce didnt just always exist. we will eventually need a space force. id argue its past due. but gov normally runs slow.
either way i hope this doesnt kill off all the cool space force memes.
Goodness gracious, whatever happened to Conservatives wanting to CUT government spending?!?!?!!?!?
The LAST thing this country needs is a new branch of the military, particularly when we've had the US Air Force involved in, you know, 'space force' stuff like putting hundreds of satellites into orbit since the early 80s.
But I'm sure that you guys can explain the benefits of creating an expensive new branch instead of allowing the USAF to continue doing what they're doing.
its not a question of if we need it but when. i get it, youve been conditioned to say orange man is bad. if you take those msm glasses off for a second it makes sense to spin off its branch to better specialize and focus.
i am generally against more spending but this will be a need in the future. id rather be ahead of the curve than behind it.
What makes creating an entirely new branch of the military so necessary that we can't 'specialize' and 'focus' within the US Air Force as we've been doing pretty successfully for the past 40-plus years?
You have no idea what you are talking about. As BS said, the development and operations of our space assets are fractured among the branches. There are redundancies in there that are wasting billions of dollars. Creating one modern branch that has a chance at being streamlined can save a huge amount.
its almost like alot of people that actually know this stuff whether they are dem or rep actually agree that creating it would be a good idea. it just sounds bad because trump doesnt know how to use words and the media will always slant what he says in a negative light.
why do i get the feeling that if this was obamas idea that hed be all about the creation of space force?
Redundancies between the branches are magically 'solved' by creating an expensive new branch?
If we're truly interested in creating efficiencies AND saving taxpayer dollars, why not consolidate these redundancies under the "AIR" Force?
LOL
If we went back to when they removed the primary flight operations from the Army and created the Air Force, we'd find @DaShuckster screaming "OMG it'll never work! How dumb can you be!?"
Most folks understand why a separate air force branch was created in the 40s. But unless we're going to start waging star cruiser wars in outer space, the financially prudent thing to do would be to consolidate all 'space' activities under a subdivision of the USAF. It may capture your imagination to believe our country's defenses are somehow dramatically improved by adding yet another military service branch but our federal budget deficit says otherwise.
the rehats fall for any propaganda that is race laced and hate driven. They love it. It fools them in to voting for morons like frump. Frump uses words and sentences that they identify with (actually non-sentences). Pleasure....I mean Paradise...LOL
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