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Yet another unarmed Black killed in own home


Are we all okay with charging this cop with murder or do we need a toxicology report on the victim?

I need to know if this guy committed other crimes 10 years ago to justify this. Or if he had covid. These are two salient facts.
 
Stop acting like you care about deaths. The only reason you even bring one up is for political purposes, which is disgusting.
So you'd like us to ignore the fact an unarmed Black man got shot to death by a police officer outside his own garage for the crime of......holding up his cell phone??!?

All I can think about whenever I hear shit like this is how many minorities have been shot to death by police before cell phones and police body cams. You have to wonder how many of these people had their deaths 'swept under the rug' because there was no video evidence and it was the cop's word versus a dead man's.
 
So you'd like us to ignore the fact an unarmed Black man got shot to death by a police officer outside his own garage for the crime of......holding up his cell phone??!?

All I can think about whenever I hear shit like this is how many minorities have been shot to death by police before cell phones and police body cams. You have to wonder how many of these people had their deaths 'swept under the rug' because there was no video evidence and it was the cop's word versus a dead man's.
And you'll go to bed tonight not giving another thought to any of their deaths, just like the rest of us. If you really cared about death, you'd link to any of the stories that I did. All you are doing is exploiting death to further a political message, which i doubt you are actually proud of but will continue to do regardless.
 
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And you'll go to bed tonight not giving another thought to any of their deaths, just like the rest of us. If you really cared about death, you'd link to any of the stories that I did. All you are doing is exploiting death to further a political message, which i doubt you are actually proud of but will continue to do regardless.
If you don't want to talk about piss-poor policing that result in the death of unarmed innocent people (Oops, my bad!) , refrain from posting in the thread.

All I can figure out from your attempt to highjack this one is that you're still pissed off that a bunch of us called you out for starting these troll threads.


 
If you don't want to talk about piss-poor policing that result in the death of unarmed innocent people (Oops, my bad!) , refrain from posting in the thread.

All I can figure out from your attempt to highjack this one is that you're still pissed off that a bunch of us called you out for starting these troll threads.


The difference is that I actually mourned those deaths. You just bring up deaths as a political virtue signal.
 
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The difference is that I actually mourned those deaths.
Clearly. I certainly got that from this post of yours:
This is where the white supremacists start to get vocal and people start considering their message. Talk about the absolute worst thing that could possibly happen in the midst of the BLM movement.
You just bring up deaths as a political virtue signal.
I link a national news story about an unarmed man getting shot to death outside his own garage by a 19-year veteran police officer and that's somehow a vain attempt to show posters I'm a good person??!?

If that's my intent, it sure as hell ain't working.
 
Clearly. I certainly got that from this post of yours:

I link a national news story about an unarmed man getting shot to death outside his own garage by a 19-year veteran police officer and that's somehow a vain attempt to show posters I'm a good person??!?

If that's my intent, it sure as hell ain't working.
Well be honest about what your intent was then.
 
Well be honest about what your intent was then.
My intent is obvious: I'm sick and tired of this kind of bullshit constantly taking place. The Usual Suspects here are always ready to throw out the "extenuating circumstances." Here's a few in this case to suck on:
1) The Black home owner was unarmed;
2) The guy was inside his own garage;
3) The police were called by a neighbor about a 'noise disturbance,' (Hardly breaking and entering.)
4) When the cops arrived, the guy stepped forward and raised his cell phone in a non-threatening manner;
5) The cop -- a 19-year veteran -- did not turn on his body cam until AFTER the shooting; and
6) Neither cop came to the victim's aid after he was shot and dying on the garage floor.
 
My intent is obvious: I'm sick and tired of this kind of bullshit constantly taking place. The Usual Suspects here are always ready to throw out the "extenuating circumstances." Here's a few in this case to suck on:
1) The Black home owner was unarmed;
2) The guy was inside his own garage;
3) The police were called by a neighbor about a 'noise disturbance,' (Hardly breaking and entering.)
4) When the cops arrived, the guy stepped forward and raised his cell phone in a non-threatening manner;
5) The cop -- a 19-year veteran -- did not turn on his body cam until AFTER the shooting; and
6) Neither cop came to the victim's aid after he was shot and dying on the garage floor.
And if the victim was white you wouldn't care enough to post about it. And you'll go to bed tonight not really thinking about the story because this death isn't any different than any other, just like the rest of us.
 
Here's an old pic that I found on his social media, it looks like he might be a thug. I don't know if he is a thug but the cop might have thought he was a thug. Why didn't this guy just comply to the cops instructions? Looks like a good shoot anyway..

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Are we all okay with charging this cop with murder or do we need a toxicology report on the victim?
Not based solely on this news report. The officer was fired for things that have nothing to do with whether the shooting was justified and the news article doesn’t touch on anything other than claiming the man who was shot only had a cell phone. I hope that people wait for more information to emerge before they decide to burn down Columbus.
 
Not based solely on this news report. The officer was fired for things that have nothing to do with whether the shooting was justified and the news article doesn’t touch on anything other than claiming the man who was shot only had a cell phone. I hope that people wait for more information to emerge before they decide to burn down Columbus.
Columbus needs to burn, and this is a good excuse for it. Cincinnati should have made the "playoff".
 
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I hope that people wait for more information to emerge before they decide to burn down Columbus.
Just curious, what more 'emerging info' do you need besides these facts?
1) The home owner was unarmed;
2) The guy was approached by police inside his own garage;
3) The police were called by a neighbor about a 'noise disturbance,'
4) When the cops arrived, the guy stepped forward and raised his cell phone in a non-threatening manner;
5) The cop -- a 19-year veteran -- did not turn on his body cam until AFTER the shooting; and
6) Neither cop came to the victim's aid after he was shot and dying on the garage floor.
 
Just curious, what more 'emerging info' do you need besides these facts?
1) The home owner was unarmed;
2) The guy was approached by police inside his own garage;
3) The police were called by a neighbor about a 'noise disturbance,'
4) When the cops arrived, the guy stepped forward and raised his cell phone in a non-threatening manner;
5) The cop -- a 19-year veteran -- did not turn on his body cam until AFTER the shooting; and
6) Neither cop came to the victim's aid after he was shot and dying on the garage floor.

GOT DAMMIT DID HE HAVE COVID OR NOT!?!??!!?!?!?
 
Has our resident killer cop defender showed up yet to mindlessly defend our insane culture of incarceration and murdering?
 
Not based solely on this news report. The officer was fired for things that have nothing to do with whether the shooting was justified and the news article doesn’t touch on anything other than claiming the man who was shot only had a cell phone. I hope that people wait for more information to emerge before they decide to burn down Columbus.
Yeah, the cops shooting an unarmed home owner and then leave him alone to bleed to death on his garage floor requires more information.*

I'll await, with baited breath, for the rest of the story.
 

Shuckster doesn't care about this death. It doesn't fit the narrative.

So I understand the point of what you're doing here but let's set that aside for a moment. Would you agree that IF we were able to factually point to a problem with law enforcement killing innocent civilians that it would warrant public scrutiny above that of citizen vs citizen crime for which the prescribed legal remedies generally seem to work? Am I correct that you're making this point to Shuck b/c you're saying the data doesn't suggest the narrative he's trying to portray is a real story worth tackling?
 
So I understand the point of what you're doing here but let's set that aside for a moment. Would you agree that IF we were able to factually point to a problem with law enforcement killing innocent civilians that it would warrant public scrutiny above that of citizen vs citizen crime for which the prescribed legal remedies generally seem to work? Am I correct that you're making this point to Shuck b/c you're saying the data doesn't suggest the narrative he's trying to portray is a real story worth tackling?
Not exactly. I'm saying that he is exploiting the "horror" of death to further a narrative. If death is so horrible that we should notate it, then all deaths should be equal. What makes one death worse than any other regardless of cause? Is it worse that a 2 year old died than a 90 year old? Why does the cause of death matter? And more to the point, does anybody really care if its somebody they don't have any connection to? A million people die everyday, and none of them really matter to you unless you know them, so why focus on 1 out of that million?
 
Not exactly. I'm saying that he is exploiting the "horror" of death to further a narrative.
So I'm "exploiting the horror" of the death of an unarmed man in his own home by a gun-toting police officer who was responding to a noise complaint in an effort to further a narrative that too way many minorities in this country are killed by police officers for stupid shit???

You got me. Guilty as charged.
 
We all know that Shucky is a racist and this just his way of dealing with his inner conflict.

Shucky would pack his bags if a black couple moved next door
 
Not exactly. I'm saying that he is exploiting the "horror" of death to further a narrative. If death is so horrible that we should notate it, then all deaths should be equal. What makes one death worse than any other regardless of cause? Is it worse that a 2 year old died than a 90 year old? Why does the cause of death matter? And more to the point, does anybody really care if its somebody they don't have any connection to? A million people die everyday, and none of them really matter to you unless you know them, so why focus on 1 out of that million?

So I think it's tricky. At the individual level of course one death isn't more horrible than another and I think that's something most reasonable people would agree with. Now take it a step further. Are there certain deaths that harm society at large more than others?

The state has a monopoly on the legitimate use of violence. We the people grant the state that. If that contract is broken and that power is misused then we cannot have a functioning and healthy society.

The same can be said with a social contract at the individual level right? The difference here is that most seem to agree we have a justice system that tends to be fair more often than not (although I'm sure many some argue against that)

So in the case where the state abuses its power and is not held accountable to the same degree of the citizen then we will have a system that will not stand the test of time. So that's where I think a very good argument can be made at highlighting certain things but that's only if the narrative is true.

Forget death, what ab other crime? I can't get behind the idea that your neighbor stealing your call = the state stealing your car if the state is allowed to get away with it more frequently.

To be clear, I'm making no claim as to the veracity of the narrative, just stating how I think it could be viewed should the narrative actually be correct. If the narrative is bullshit then yea...

As far as your other argument ab not actually caring about death unless it's someone you know, well.... not sure I'm on board with that. I guess you need to define "care" a bit more. I mean obviously there's only so much capacity a person has to give outwardly (monetarily, time, emotion etc) but I don't think it's hard to argue that some actually do care more than others.
 
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