Wonder how much longer Pocahontas and Klobawhatever stick around...
2020 Democrat hopefuls
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Wonder how much longer Pocahontas and Klobawhatever stick around...
Left with old man communist-socialist, "evil" billionaire, and a guy that is entering dementia. If you were trying to find a CEO, clearly the billionaire should win but you know....lol
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Klobuchar will be done on Tuesday. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the DNC encourages Warren to stay in and finds some donors to help. They dont want Bernie
Anyone that likes Bernie has to consider Bloomberg at least a moderate Republican and probably more to the right than that.
I think President Trump made a good point in his tweet about Mayor Pete dropping out - his votes most likely go to Biden helping the DNC bring down Bernie. I don’t think it’s a conspiracy or anything like that but Pete’s voters on Super Tuesday most likely don’t go to Bernie.
Doesnt matter since Mayor Gun Grabber and Biden are still in. They’ll just split that vote.
Pete had the money to stay in longer than Amy or Elizabeth but he saw the handwriting on the wall and realized the smart play was for his reputation and for the party was to drop out before Super Tuesday and give Biden another boost to add to his South Carolina momentum.
Regarding any behind-the-scenes ‘wheeling and dealing,’ it’s certainly possible but regardless, it was the right thing to do. Amy should have done the same thing.
Buttigieg was counting on riding all the media hoopla surrounding his Iowa win propelling his campaign into becoming the party’s moderate alternative to Sanders and Warren.
The Iowa caucus fiasco destroyed that game plan (Iowa FINALLY announced that Mayor Pete was the winner this past weekend.). Whether or not a big victory speech on the evening of the Iowa caucus would have changed the narrative is open to question. But Iowa did Pete no favors, that’s for sure.
Regarding bounces that could come from big victory speeches, Joe had a damn good one last Saturday night.
Did he mention half the population of the United States will die of gun related deaths and the other half will be coming next?
Seems like the same thing happens on one side or the other every cycle. Iowa just isn't the bellwether that politicians think it is.
People remember 2008 and that "Omigod" evening when Obama won the lily-white Iowa caucus and blew rank-and-file Democrats away with his victory speech.
Still 60% of the vote. And whoever loses will hand their delegates over to the other.
Yep, and they forget John Edwards, Mike Huckabee, Rick Santorum, Ted Cruz, etc. Obama is a rare outlier.
Given the way California distributes his delegates based on threshold counts, there is a HUGE difference in earned delegates for Biden if he passes 15% of the vote. As of the last polling (pre-South Carolina), Joe was at 13%.
For all the angst and handwringing that's been going on about Bernie 'sewing the race up' after Super Tuesday, it is likely now to be different. Yes, Sanders will be in first. But Biden will be in easy striking distance if he does well in the South and is competitive in California and Texas.
I wasn't disagreeing with you, I was simply explaining why it is that so many people, and especially the media, give Iowa so much street cred.
Bloombergs biggest mistake was the way he lived his life. He's got no chance in politics with the current climate towards sexual harassment in the workplace and racial issues. He can run ads all he wants but Warren will always be able to dismantle him bit by bit as soon as he gains any momentum.
True, but nobody would have known about it yet and he could have wrapped up a bunch of delegates. At least at that point he would have some momentum so it wouldn't have hurt quite as much.
F-C electability rankings:
Warren
Klob
Sanders
Trump
Biden
Bloomerg
I think the people above Trump can beat him and those below Trump won't.
This election will be won for dems on two things
1. New voter turnout/enthusiasm
2. Middle to upper middle class suburban white women
Warren gets most of both of those buckets.
Klobs gets a lot of the second bucket.
Sanders gets a lot of the first bucket.
Biden gets some of the second bucket.
Bloomberg gets none of either and focuses on being Trump without all the bad parts of being Trump.
Warren
Klob
Sanders
Trump
Biden
Bloomerg
I think the people above Trump can beat him and those below Trump won't.
This election will be won for dems on two things
1. New voter turnout/enthusiasm
2. Middle to upper middle class suburban white women
Warren gets most of both of those buckets.
Klobs gets a lot of the second bucket.
Sanders gets a lot of the first bucket.
Biden gets some of the second bucket.
Bloomberg gets none of either and focuses on being Trump without all the bad parts of being Trump.
Omigod! Deal-making in politics!!!*
Pete's move essentially means this has become a two-man race: Sanders vs Biden. FWTW, there's no way that Sanders is the party's nominee if he goes to the convention short of the delegates he needs for a first ballot win.
Omigod! Deal-making in politics!!!*
Pete's move essentially means this has become a two-man race: Sanders vs Biden. FWTW, there's no way that Sanders is the party's nominee if he goes to the convention short of the delegates he needs for a first ballot win.
For all intents and purposes, buttigiegs delegates are already Bidens.
He needed to get his feet wet. Anyway, Warren won't be at the next debate which should help.
Can't just slack off the whole semester then expect to stay up all night and ace the final. Show me that he can keep this up longer than a month.
What are you smoking? Everyone of those people is 70+yo, none excites new voters or middle class suburban white women. The key is to drive minority turnout in swing states.
lol no. The "Sanders will bring out millions of new voters!" concept is already pretty much debunked by the fact that this is not happening in any of the primary states and isn't going to happen on Super Tuesday. Not to mention, any new voters who do actually turn out very well may be there to vote for Trump to assure a communist doesn't actually win the Presidency.
None excite new voters? Bernie. His base is full of first time voters and they are more enthusiastic than any I've seen.
It is happening in primary states. We're getting Obama 08 numbers in several states so far.
Electability: the people who can garner the most votes. How many delegates do Klobuchar and Warren have so far? I mean, they are FCs top 2 most electable candidates so they must be leading.
His base is full of kids that want free stuff. He didn't bring out anybody new in SC. The caucuses are BS.
SC is conservative Trump state = no ****s given as to who the democrats pick there.
Its who can get the most vs Trump... if you can pay attention that was the topic of my post. Right now it's a 6 way tie at 0.
Oh. Since you have Trump #3 I was assuming you were talking about electability, not who could beat trump. Seems kinda funny that Trump is the 3rd best candidate to beat Trump.
