Biden is in a weak position as an incumbent but don’t believe it will matter against Trump specifically.
2024 Election Thread
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Going back to Obama's reelection campaign, I remember hearing all kinds of corkling on my old board about how the Republican field was poised to kick his butt -- and they had polls to back up their claims.
But in my humble opinion, polls (however you wanna look at them) won't mean diddily squat until after the summer conventions.
Ah yes, Hart's...gasp!... affair.
1988 was SUCH a quaint, old-fashioned time.
Gary Hart was clean as a preacher's sheets by today's standards...
Pretty funny, but sadly at least some, if not most of it is true. lol
You know Fatty Arbuckle would pay per view that shit from his Alabammer double wide and down 27 burritos while he watched.
He’s ultimately worse than Trump.
You won’t see him supporting an insurrection, but….
He is just very different. He has very weird ideologies if that’s the word
He’s dangerous, because he’s an actual politician. Can’t just laugh him off. He’s dead serious and vengeful.
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It's well on its way to being a losing one.
I think he is worse than Trump too. Trump is mostly in it for the money, Desantis seems like he really wants to force his views on to society. I think he is running a terrible campaign though, and have a feeling he sucks in debates, so I don't think he is going to end up being a major factor when all is said and done, but I could be wrong.
How many times is his name on his shirt?that is a ‘F This I just want to go home’ look
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Can a president run the country from jail? Guess we might find out…
Trump is on a “I’ve been wronged and am going to pardon myself tour.” I mean, Trump’s loss in 2020 is The Most Important Issue currently facing our country, right?
He is also telling his audience he is being inducted for them, as if that makes any sense what so ever.
And yet here we are. Dude has a legit shot to walk right back into the WH.
I can't help but shake my head at where my old party has gone. Back in the day, I was among the voices who couldn't believe we'd keep a President in office who'd....gasp!.... had an affair with an intern. And now? Paying off a porn star to get their affair quiet is THE LEAST of Trump's legal worries.
There's a Grand Canyon-wide difference between being the odds-on-favorite to be the MAGA Crowd's nominee and having a 'legit' shot at winning a general election. Currently, we're still at the tip of the iceburg regarding Trump's legal troubles. When the Georgia election tampering and Jan. 6th insurrection indictments finally hit, I'd like someone to explain to me how any independent is going to say, "Yep, after carefully examining the pros-and-cons of the two candidates, Trump is My Man!!!"
Yes, and the major problem with everything you just said is that he’s running against Biden. This should be no contest and an absolute landslide against Trump. But it isn’t and won’t be.
The harsh reality for Republicans is that with Biden as President our country is in much better shape now than it was under Trump.
In this style-vs-substance era, we want a charismatic, cheerleader-type President so Old Man Joe doesn't fit that bill for us. But its hard to argue with how things have progressed under him.
Much better shape, eh/hyperbolic much? Someone must have forgotten to tell that to my retirement and savings portfolio.
And it’s very easy to argue, hence his approval rating—among democrats to boot.
Look, we could do this all day and night until November 2024. Biden, if he survives, is 100% beatable by Trump or anyone else on the right. You might not like that, but it’s a simple fact.
I don't think Trump will beat him. Anything is possible, but I don't think Trump is going to do well with with swing voters.
Yeah, the economy is mostly in good shape. Inflation is leveling out, and I think interest hikes are about over, and job numbers are good.
Without going into the merits of Biden as a President or as a politician:
He is in almost the exact same position Obama was in in 2011, right down to, depending on the poll, losing to multiple Republican challengers.
But that has more to do with the fact that cross-party voting barely exists anymore, and so most voters who get polled are going to end up being: "Conservatives who are united in wanting to get rid of Biden" and "Liberals, some of whom might prefer someone else".
It's why general election polling before Super Tuesday is near-worthless, and general election polling over a year before the election is completely worthless, unless pollsters decide to ask round 2 dozen follow-up questions.
Politics are equal parts fascinating and boring to me because 99% of it is pointless bullshit that doesn't matter unless a candidate doesn't do something they were supposed to, in which case it's a huge crisis because of "narrative".
And despite our presidential election being like 15 months away, the easiest prediction in the world to make is, assuming he's healthy, Biden is the overwhelming favorite to win the election because he's the sitting president, and sitting presidents almost always get re-elected.
THIS! ^^^^^
And add to the equation the fact that the GOP is an absolute clusterfcuk.
This election doesn't really matter, it will be Frump vs Briben. Country is totally screwed either way.
Yeah, Old Man Biden has been SUCH a loser, right?
- He got an infrastructure bill passed through Congress
- He united NATO behind the defense of Ukraine.
- Has kept an antsie China in check.
- It is looking more and more like we've avoided a Recession (it wasn't so long ago we were told it was a lead-pipe certainty) while getting skyrocketing inflation back in check.
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Sigh. I can remember a time when an upcoming POTUS election was a time to talk about how we can best deal with the various issues our country is facing. And now? It's about which 'side' has the bigger crooks?
If we don't come to our senses soon, this country won't survive another 25 years, let alone another 250.
If we don't come to our senses soon, this country won't survive another 25 years, let alone another 250.
The country will be fine and survive. We can doomsday all day long, but this kind of stuff has been going on since the founding of our nation. Read Howard Zinn's A People’s History of the United States and you'll find a fascinating look at who we were. It really isn't that much different in terms of today. In fact, we might even say it was FAR worse 100, 150, 200 years ago, but we simply have more press coverage about it in the present.
And maybe we don't even have to go back that far. I was watching a Netflix documentary the other day--Tricky Dick & the Man in Black. I am still amazed at how badly this country was split over Vietnam. I still find it shocking that the Ohio National Guard shot up kids at Kent St. Or how we essentially prosecuted the Chicago 7 for their thoughts. More things that change, the more they stay the same...
You make some good points. But voters have a history of schizophrenic behavior. We'll survive 2024 but if we all can't agree that democracy is a good thing and growing public doubt in our institutions is a bad thing, we're eventually screwed.
to all the maga that think Joe is corrupt too he sure hasn’t behaved like someone that is..didn’t he almost sell his Delaware home bc of his son’s cancer treatment bills? And he rarely goes on vacation outside the Northeast. If he is a corrupt the way he has lived the last 20+ years doesn’t track someone receiving a bunch of dirty money
Democracy is a great thing. Period. I guess my point in all this is public doubt has been there, and even if it wasn't, it probably should have been. For example:
Should Americans have had more public doubt in our institutions when it came to slavery?
Should Americans have had more public doubt in our institutions when we slaughtered Native Americans in the spirit of imminent domain?
Should Americans have had even more public doubt in our institutions with regard to Vietnam? Nixon? LBJ? Should Americans have had more public doubt in our institutions when it came to (fill in the blank) any war, trade deal, gov't eff up that killed people, etc.
You get my point. BTW, Zinn's writing on our Native American policies should be required reading for every HS kid in this country. And then, they need to turn their attention to his footnotes, and those should be required readings. It's kind of been a summer reading project of mine...
Here’s How Much Joe Biden Was Worth In 2021
Joe Biden earned $17.3 million over the four years he was out of office, but his net worth is only an estimated $8 million. Why isn’t he richer?
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Am I going to assume that this all 100% above the board? Nope. Am I going to assume he has shit he hasn't reported? Yup. Do I think he's as corrupt as Trump? Nope. Do I wish both would kick the bucket because no one over the age of 80 has any business running this country? Yup.
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