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2024 Election Thread

Ha, I had 'this kind of discussion' back in 2008 and 2012 too. I was told that 'Obama would never win' followed by 'Obama's reelection bid is in major trouble.' So pardon me if my response to your "major thang" is a high level of skepticism.

But boards like this one feed on this stuff. FWIW, I was once told that 'I had my head in the sand' about Obama's birth certificate too.

I didn't write the article--CNN did. And they provided plenty of data points that don't paint a rosy picture of Joe. This isn't some hit piece from FOX.

Again, that we are even entertaining this discussion is comical. But hey, you do you...
 
or a MAGA Hatter to be named later --- is going to win in 2024?
This is where you’re not getting it

I’m voting for another Republican candidate and I’m not a MAGA Hatter

Don’t try to convince anyone that Biden is a good president. That’s very disingenuous. Anyone other than Trump can beat him, because he’s THAT bad
 
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This is where you’re not getting it

I’m voting for another Republican candidate and I’m not a MAGA Hatter
I'd vote for a Republican like Adam Kinzinger in a nano-second. But if its not for some crazy, MAGA Hatter in the GOP primary, you're wasting your vote.
Don’t try to convince anyone that Biden is a good president. That’s very disingenuous. Anyone other than Trump can beat him, because he’s THAT bad
Let's be honest here. People are concerned with Biden's age, period. As far as being a President goes, he's done a lot to 'right the ship' that Trump left us in.

The inflation we witnessed in the wake of the pandemic was due to the distruption in the world's supply chains. The US has rebounded from the inflation that caused better than any other country. Any notion that the economy has not been improving is defying the evidence to the contrary.
 
Let's be honest here. People are concerned with Biden's age, period. As far as being a President goes, he's done a lot to 'right the ship' that Trump left us in.

The inflation we witnessed in the wake of the pandemic was due to the distruption in the world's supply chains. The US has rebounded from the inflation that caused better than any other country. Any notion that the economy has not been improving is defying the evidence to the contrary.
This is some of the funniest shit I've ever read on these boards. Thanks for the laughs.
 
both of you are right in some ways . but think some of it is Florida bubble. remember this State is the opposite trend of most of this country and the last few elections back this
 
Any notion that the economy has not been improving is defying the evidence to the contrary
Why haven’t my investments rebounded? I have a feeling that they would not be so stagnant with anyone else in office

Same with gas prices
 
Why haven’t my investments rebounded? I have a feeling that they would not be so stagnant with anyone else in office

Same with gas prices
In his first three years, my retirement doubled under Trump. Under comatose Joe?!?! Lmmfagdao. Caca shit.

And don’t get me started on gas and groceries.
 
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Why haven’t my investments rebounded? I have a feeling that they would not be so stagnant with anyone else in office

Same with gas prices
Why do you have that feeling? Shuck is 100% correct, in that the US economy has faired better than most of the rest of the world post covid, but that doesn't mean our economy wasn't impacted at all because of covid, obviously it was. I don't think it would be much, if any better under another president.
 
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Trump wasn't dealing with the fallout of a pandemic his first 3 years, Biden was. It isn't an apples to apples comparison.
And I have no doubt in my mind that it would have been different with someone other than Biden in office.
 
You can think that, but there is no way to prove it, and I am not sure what exactly you are basing that on.
Basing it on Biden being a comatose retard. That’s 100% non-debatable and 100% proof.


GO KNIGHTS!!!!! CHARGE ON!!!!!!
 
we have the best inflation rate out of the rich nations I believe

but Americans think we are immune to global problems

Every President/Prime Minister in the World aren’t all inept
 
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we have the best inflation rate out of the rich nations I believe

but Americans think we are immune to global problems

Every President/Prime Minister in the World aren’t all inept

No one gives a shit about the rest of the world and your average grocery bill is still through the roof and putting an extremely hefty financial burden on those who can't afford it to begin with. Inflation has gone down but someone forgot to tell the fukcing people who sell stuff, I guess. It's ridiculous. Couple that with gas prices, and you have a recipe for disaster.

Your average American is going to compare, right or wrong, how much they paid for stuff under Trump vs. Biden and wonder where it all went wrong. They aren't going to sit there and say "Well it's bad here, but gee whiz, at least we aren't Venezuela or Iran!!!!"
 
cmon didn’t say to compare us to Venezuela,
How about England which is governed by a Conservative Party
 
cmon didn’t say to compare us to Venezuela,
How about England which is governed by a Conservative Party

I didn't say you did. Lemme rephrase then: "Your average American is going to compare, right or wrong, how much they paid for stuff under Trump vs. Biden and wonder where it all went wrong. They aren't going to sit there and say "Well it's bad here, but gee whiz, at least we aren't England!!!!"
 
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If you are waiting for The Average American to return Trump to the White House next year, I wouldn't hold your breath.
 
If you are waiting for The Average American to return Trump to the White House next year, I wouldn't hold your breath.
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This is where you’re not getting it

I’m voting for another Republican candidate and I’m not a MAGA Hatter

Don’t try to convince anyone that Biden is a good president. That’s very disingenuous. Anyone other than Trump can beat him, because he’s THAT bad
I’m voting for Trump. He’s going to win easily.
 
I have no idea who is going to win. Trump turns out votes like no other person for and against him. Joe turns out no one for or against him. Either way the USA loses.

I still have a gut feeling Joe won't be the man for Dems. He is slowly and steadily going downhill.
 
Some of you people crack me up. Who are the ones here with their heads in the sand?

Rather than make sure we don't experience YET ANOTHER government shutdown, the GOP majority in the House feels the most pressing issue of the day is to....(drumroll)....kick off an impeachment inquiry on the business dealings of Hunter Biden?

We've got a bunch of Regular Joes going to prison for 5 to 25 years for the Capitol riot that the MAGA crowd told us was 'just a normal day on Capitol Hill.' But the suits behind the damn thing are still out there free as a bird?

We're looking at the serious possibility of a convicted felon and convicted rapist being the next President of the United States. But it's the incumbent's age that's the REAL ISSUE the majority of American voters are ignoring?

Ooooookay, guys. :rolleyes:
 
No one said Jan 6 was an ordinary day.

If you have paid any attention to the hearings in the house, the inquiry is not about Hunter, it is about Joe providing access and more to enrich his family, plus get the big guy cut. But just like I ignored the 2nd impeachment of Trump you are doing the same with Biden.
Ooooooookay, Shuck.

The inquiry was needed to get documents that have and are still being withheld from the committee.
 
No one said Jan 6 was an ordinary day.

If you have paid any attention to the hearings in the house, the inquiry is not about Hunter...
Where is the evidence on President Biden that is sparking this need to inquire further?

Face it, there is ZERO evidence linking the criminal activities of Hunter during his drug addict days to his father in any way, shape, or form. By contrast, there was TONS of reasons to push for Trump's impeachment inquiries. With the MAGA crowd, it's 'Gosh, let's call for an inquiry and see what happens. Maybe we can come up with something?'

If the House is so hellbent to look into family related to the Prez, I suggest they spend some time looking into the Saudi business dealings of Trump's son-in-law.
 
First let me say I don't want this impeachment inquiry, but to say there is no evidence shows you have not paid any attention to what the house has already found. They have found lots of dots, but need documents not received to see if they connect. I hate that politics is now about trying to destroy the person on the other side of the isle.

But it is what it now is, if you disagree you have to destroy the other person, debate no longer happens.
I disagree with you all the time, but I don't think you are a monster that needs to be dragged out from under the bed in your mothers basement and destroyed.
 
it is what it now is, if you disagree you have to destroy the other person, debate no longer happens.
That explains the MAGA obsession with Hunter Biden. When your boy is soon-to-be a convicted felon and is already a convicted rapist, the House has to come up with something to tell voters, "Both sides are corrupt." (One of YOUR favorite lines.)
First let me say I don't want this impeachment inquiry, but to say there is no evidence shows you have not paid any attention to what the house has already found.
What is this evidence? Lots of...dots??? FYI, I've paid attention but I haven't heard a damn thing that ties Papa Joe to his druggie son's crap.
I disagree with you all the time, but I don't think you are a monster that needs to be dragged out from under the bed in your mothers basement and destroyed.
Whew. Thanks! I appreciate your support! 👍
 
Other than clear line of Gov't ok with prosecutor to Burisma hiring Hunter, to Burisma telling hunter to get help from Washington. to 5 days later Biden being in Ukraine getting said prosecutor fired, after a quick total reversal of policy by Obama administration. To very large check going into Hunter's accounts and Burisma exec talking about 10% going to the Big Guy. and since that time Burisma exec saying big guy was Joe. coincidence is an amazing thing. Hunter himself in email's complaining about having to give his dad 1/2 of his money.

I know this was all debunked by the same people who said Hunter laptop was Russian disinformation. Biden lying saying he never talked to any of Hunter's business partners, which we now know was a total lie on Joe's part.

I know none of the above and more of what the House has found look suspicious to you because of your blue tinted sunglasses, but they look really suspicious to us wearing red tinted glasses.
 
Other than clear line of Gov't ok with prosecutor to Burisma hiring Hunter, to Burisma telling hunter to get help from Washington. to 5 days later Biden being in Ukraine getting said prosecutor fired, after a quick total reversal of policy by Obama administration. To very large check going into Hunter's accounts and Burisma exec talking about 10% going to the Big Guy. and since that time Burisma exec saying big guy was Joe. coincidence is an amazing thing. Hunter himself in email's complaining about having to give his dad 1/2 of his money.
Jesus, that bunch of milarky was debunked AGES ago!

The prosecutor that got fired was a crook who deserved to be fired. The idea he was some kind of whistle-blowing, Knight in Shining Armor is laughable. Not only was the guy corrupt as hell, he was IN CAHOOTS with the Burisma exec who put Hunter on his board! Wouldn't you think Joe would of been defending that crooked prosecuter instead of encouraging their President to fire him? To say this was a 'reversal of US policy' is another bizarre statement. Yeah boy, the Obama administration was all about keeping Ukrainian crooks in office! :rolleyes:

I'm not defending Hunter Biden in any way, shape, or form. He most certainly traded on his name for big paycheck in Ukraine. Besides that, he was a drug addict and sleaze bag back then. I'll not shed a single tear if he's convicted and sent to prison.

But an impeachment inquiry is about illegal crap JOE Biden did. The House GOP has been on this case since Biden took office and they've uncovered ZERO evidence of wrong-doing.
I know none of the above and more of what the House has found look suspicious to you because of your blue tinted sunglasses.
Impeachment hearings are about serious breaches of the public's trust. You don't start one because your MAGA media tells you something "looks suspicious." If it's real, then the House GOP needs to show everybody the evidence. This is a case of "let's officially open an impeachment inquiry and see if anything pops up!"
they look really suspicious to us wearing red tinted glasses.
When the hell are you folks going to wake up and start wearing red, white, and blue tinted glasses? You're hellbent on destroying everything our country has spend two and a half centuries building. And for what??!!?
 
Jesus, that bunch of milarky was debunked AGES ago!



When the hell are you folks going to wake up and start wearing red, white, and blue tinted glasses? You're hellbent on destroying everything our country has spend two and a half centuries building. And for what??!!?
Red, Blue tinted simply meant Democrat left lean vs Republican Right leaning. I think both sides mostly see Red white and Blue.
Our country didn't spend 250 years building a left of center progressive socialist society' where pedophiles are now MAPS, Drag queens are good people for kids to follow, and doing invasive surgery/hormone therapy on them at the age as low as 3 that can and often does cause unfixable damage is a good idea. Where there is to be no such thing as borders, everyone who enters US has the right to vote, work, live, as full blown citizens. None of the above was done over 250 years of building it was done in the last 10 years.

I don't like all the impeachment bs. Didn't like it of Clinton, Trump, nor on Biden now. That said they have not even set up vote for impeachment as of today, simply an inquiry. They need to do that to strengthen the hand on getting doc's the Whitehouse and DOJ refuse to give them. If they have seen enough to make them question Bidens actions they have a duty to move forward. If more info shows nothing they need to back down. (I don't think they will) which is wrong.

The Milarky was debunked by the same people who said and pushed media to accept Hunter's laptop was Russia misinformation. That was before proof of H being put on the board of Barisma a week before being told to get help from Washington, That Email now exist and has been confirmed. There is some proof that that request was passed on, the effect was Govt policy reversed, Biden threatend Ukraine with witholding $$.. Something Trump never did. and prosecuter was fired. $$$ went into Biden held accounts. If Joe acted at the request of Hunter, even if it was only for Hunters benefit he should be inpeached. But there are other actions that Hunter did with Russian and Chineese that there are real signs that Joe helped fix, any one of them should lead to impeachment.

I don't know that Joe did anything wrong, and if he didn't I want the info out there that proves that point, but if the emails, documents, bank records, ect show otherwise I want him kicked out in disgrace.
 
Our country didn't spend 250 years building a left of center progressive socialist society' where pedophiles are now MAPS, Drag queens are good people for kids to follow, and doing invasive surgery/hormone therapy on them at the age as low as 3 that can and often does cause unfixable damage is a good idea.
Transgenderism represents such a threat that we need to trash our Constitution and become an Authoritarian State to stop it?!?
The Milarky was debunked by the same people who said and pushed media to accept Hunter's laptop was Russia misinformation.
When people believe the bullsh*t they get fed regularly by Fox News, it explains how someone like goodknightfl can believe --- as Kellyann Conway once famously said --- alternative sets of 'facts.'
 
Don't have Fox news.
Didn't say to stop transgenderism, I said don't do it on young kids. If you want hormones, and multiple surgeries after you are an adult fine.
 
Didn't say to stop transgenderism, I said don't do it on young kids. If you want hormones, and multiple surgeries after you are an adult fine.
This was your response to me whining about putting America First over party politics. Why do you care so much about telling other parents what they can or can't do for the health of their kids?

FWIW, surgeries for underage trans kids is as rare as late term abortions that your crowd loves to crow about. Abortions after the 20th week represent less than 1% of all abortions. To listen to Red-Meat radio, those evil dems are allowing abortions---OMIGAWD!---right up until the moment of birth.
 
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