What do you think the 94 bill actually banned? Go ahead and bring it back in the exact same form as far as I'm concerned.
Active Shooter at Boulder, CO Grocery Store
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I'm saying that you need to get out of the gun control echo chamber and look at things from a broader perspective. Your linked opinion pieces are perfect examples of selection bias on this topic. From the term gun violence, to talking about homicides in general, to looking only at incidences of a gun firing and not the effect of guns on everything else. Again, saying that having a gun in the home increases the chance of homicide is obvious; but homicide includes criminal murder/manslaughter, accidental shooting, and justifiable homicides. Not drawing the distinction so that you can pile on the numbers is disingenuous. I would hope that everyone would say that killing someone to save your life or your family's lives is a good thing. But these numbers just treat it all as bad. At least the second article talks to gun crime, but they only look at gun crime to make their decision. And it makes the same error in lumping all gun deaths that aren't suicide into homicides.I didnt wipe it away, I said that it happens, but I am saying you are over stating it, because you are. Guns are used far more often in committing crimes, than in preventing crimes, this is simply a fact. IN fact, having a gun in your home is far more dangerous than not having one in your home. These are facts that statistics bare out. If that makes my argument on the kindergarten level then so be it, nobody cares about your personal insults.
Does a Gun Make Your Home Safer? | SafeWise
Research shows that having a gun at home does not make us safer. SafeWise looks at the latest studies on gun safety.www.safewise.com
Guns Don't Deter Crime, Study Finds
Firearm assaults, robberies and homicides are highest in states with more guns, finds a new study that contradicts the notion that private gun ownership deters crime.www.livescience.com
But this is also getting off the topic a bit. Hardly anyone is saying you cant have any guns at all, so you are basically arguing something that no one else is saying. At least that is how my kindergarten level brain construes it, but I am sure a superior intellectual being such as yourself will tell me how stupid I am and win the argument.
We don't handle guns the way that we handle other things that cause cultural, societal, and economic chaos. With guns, we just want to take them away. Now, that is impossible because any prohibition in America has failed. But we do it anyway. No education. Very little PR campaigns on gun security and safe practices. Certainly no acts of Congress to provide credits or force insurance companies to cover gun locks and gun safes.
Imagine, if you will, if we handled out-of-wedlock voluntary sex and reproduction the same way. In 2018, an all--time high of 2.5 million cases of just syphilis, gonorrhea, and chlamydia were reported to the CDC. 94 infants died from syphilis in 2018. That's not even to mention the more fatal STDs nor are we hitting pregnancy-related medical deaths and suicides. We're not even touching the number of lives (both of fetuses and of mothers) ended by abortion. So, in our hypothetical, rather than teaching safe sex practices in school, rather than getting people comfortable with all the different orientations, rather than providing all kinds of resources for birth control and legislation forcing insurance companies to provide birth control, rather than spending all kinds of money wiping away the consequences of sexual reproductive acts, we just say don't do it and criminalize those that have sex when someone in society says that they shouldn't? How would that work out?
The only thing people need to know is was the shooter a white looking middle easterner.
I dont know what syphilis has to do with guns so I am going to bypass that part, but the bolded part isnt remotely true. At best people want a ban on certain types of guns, but most people are just calling for more regulations, they are not trying to ban all guns. As I said before, you are arguing against something no one else is really proposing.
When the proposed regulations wouldn’t do anything to prevent the tragedies that prompt the discussions, you have to wonder what the motivations are.
Yeah, but you know how those slippery slopes work: common sense regulations today, banning all guns tomorrow. 🙄
OK, so since this is about "common sense", what regulations does a common man like you propose?
Republicans are more than welcome to come up with better solutions. Or just say they are fine with mass shootings, which seems to be the case.
The bolded part is absolutely true. The way that the repeatedly proposed legislation it written, it encompasses most of the weapons in America. Beyond that, there have been more than a few activists for groups like everytown that have admitted that assault weapons is just a start. Just like every other progressive cause. Just like I said before, you claim that something you don’t like isn’t true and then just ignore anything about it. So it tried to give you a hypothetical analogy to show you the hypocrisy in the way the left treats things based on what they deem acceptable. Unfortunately, you decided not to even try to debate the point. Hence, kindergarten.
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