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ANOTHER BREAKTHROUGH CASE!!!!!!!



Morons think that mutations are just random happenstance, while the rest of the world understands why when a virus jumps from one animal to the next, it mutates in a way that makes it more possible to infect humans. Why do you idiots think they were trying to figure out if covid jumped from a bat to a pangolin to humans? Because the host facilitates a change in the genome.

Shitheads
When I was in DC working for the Obama administration over several years, and MERS-CoV as well as H1N1 hit, I tried to explain this to people. I couldn't believe the ridicule I received. I then sent various articles, and they ignored them.

It's horrendous how ignorant we've become.
 
When I was in DC working for the Obama administration over several years, and MERS-CoV as well as H1N1 hit, I tried to explain this to people. I couldn't believe the ridicule I received. I then sent various articles, and they ignored them.

It's horrendous how ignorant i’ve become.
It’s not a coincidence that you were ridiculed They probably had security escort you out for being a raving lunatic since your field of study has nothing to do with anything remotely related to this subject matter
 
Kyle Rittenhouse's lawyer John Pierce said you couldn't make him get the vaccine if the entire 82d airborne tried.

He is currently in the ICU, on a ventilator, unresponsive due to COVID-19.

Thoughts and prayers.
 
Congrats on your “credentials”, but if you understand how they work, then you understand that the mutations that persist are the mutations that make the virus the most viable to replicate. Hence why those specific mutations end up…replicating. Viruses don’t “mutate to death”. They will mutate to where they are more infectious and easily spread. They become less deadly because humans develop immunities to prior exposures to the virus or because more efficient killing of the host leads to less effective replication and spread.
Mutate to death was perhaps a bad way to explain but you are too caught up in your gotcha moment. I’ve already agreed that the pattern of immunity plays a role. I also agree that individual mutations are random. What I’m saying is that, historically, the respiratory viruses do not keep collecting mutations that result in them being more virulent over time. We get a number of waves and then they tend to start mutating down a path where the mutations are less dangerous, and it’s not all because we have immunity to the previous variants but that is a part of it. So I’m agreeing with you for the most part and you can stop picking on one attempt to describe a pattern as if it’s the most important thing in the thread.
 
Mutations themselves are random errors in their genetic code. Yes, entirely random. The mutations that are actually beneficial to the virus in terms of spreading and replicating (small proportion) are the mutations that end up being present in the subsequent strains of the virus we see. The virus doesn’t consciously choose to mutate in a way that is beneficial, but with enough mutations the longer a virus is circulating amongst a population, eventually it will accidentally have a beneficial mutation.
If it's totally random, why were they trying to find the animal that the bat virus jumped to before being able to infect humans? Were they just so stupid to not realize that the mutations are completely random and didn't need a primary and secondary host to get to this point? Why would anybody be speculating on whether it was manipulated in a lab?
 
Mutate to death was perhaps a bad way to explain but you are too caught up in your gotcha moment. I’ve already agreed that the pattern of immunity plays a role. I also agree that individual mutations are random. What I’m saying is that, historically, the respiratory viruses do not keep collecting mutations that result in them being more virulent over time. We get a number of waves and then they tend to start mutating down a path where the mutations are less dangerous, and it’s not all because we have immunity to the previous variants but that is a part of it. So I’m agreeing with you for the most part and you can stop picking on one attempt to describe a pattern as if it’s the most important thing in the thread.
The reason the most virulent mutations don’t last is because they run out of people to infect (everybody gets infected in a hurry) or because the infected die too quickly to allow for new infections. The only problem is those mutations kill a bunch of people before disappearing
 
The reason the most virulent mutations don’t last is because they run out of people to infect (everybody gets infected in a hurry) or because the infected die too quickly to allow for new infections. The only problem is those mutations kill a bunch of people before disappearing
That is true and also a simplified view of it. Just because you have immunity to one variant doesn’t in any way mean that you have immunity to another and there’s no guarantee to what degree the natural immunity will carry over. Many of the coronaviruses that caused pandemics are still with us and have the ability to randomly mutate to something pandemic-level. Yet we don’t see that, do we? Natural immunity plays a big part but not the only part. Regardless, I’m done. Think what you will, this is too tedious.
 
That is true and also a simplified view of it. Just because you have immunity to one variant doesn’t in any way mean that you have immunity to another and there’s no guarantee to what degree the natural immunity will carry over. Many of the coronaviruses that caused pandemics are still with us and have the ability to randomly mutate to something pandemic-level. Yet we don’t see that, do we? Natural immunity plays a big part but not the only part. Regardless, I’m done. Think what you will, this is too tedious.
What kind of bullshit are you trying to spew out? Holy tangent city. All this talk about mutations isn’t very relevant when you get COVID and are 6 feet under. It’s not relevant to real life situations. Most of it is theoretical as there are too many variables to predict what a virus can do as far as the number of mutations, how quickly mutations occur, and how virulent those strains are.

People were supposed to get vaccinated as quickly as possible, the rest die or get natural immunity and then the pandemic is at manageable levels. Additionally, and obviously, we need a better vaccine.

Stop making this more complicated than it is by throwing your @UCFBS knowledge and irrelevant training at us
 
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Vaccines: 5 minutes to apply, $20/shot
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What kind of bullshit are you trying to spew out? Holy tangent city. All this talk about mutations isn’t very relevant when you get COVID and are 6 feet under. It’s not relevant to real life situations. Most of it is theoretical as there are too many variables to predict what a virus can do as far as the number of mutations, how quickly mutations occur, and how virulent those strains are.

People were supposed to get vaccinated as quickly as possible, the rest die or get natural immunity and then the pandemic is at manageable levels. Additionally, and obviously, we need a better vaccine.

Stop making this more complicated than it is by throwing your @UCFBS knowledge and irrelevant training at us
You’re right. I forgot that we are a bunch of Neanderthals that can only relate to shot like, no shot hate.
 
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