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Border Agent to NPR: Walls and barriers work

Ok, can I rephrase my request? I haven't heard anyone respond to my question with a remotely logical reason we should pay $15 billion for this wall.

Your rambling rant about a police officer harassing you made zero sense in the context of why we should throw away money on the wall.

Harsh but true, sorry.
Well, lets start with the fact that there is a law stating that a wall shall be built.

Now can you answer my question ?
 
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You could put 24 hour guards every 100 yards for 10 years for the price of this wall. They wouldn't even need binoculars to make sure no one was coming. Looooooooool.
 
Well, lets start with the fact that there is a law stating that a wall shall be built.

Now can you answer my question ?

There was also a law that people could own people. There was also a law that alcohol was illegal. There was also a law that all jew should be rounded up and murdered.

You still haven't answered my question.
 
lol you know extremists have overtaken the debate for the Democrats and the left when Chris Freaking Cuomo is having to slap Don Lemon around for being an idiot. Don Lemon's position is basically in lockstep with the DNC and extremists like FC.

LEMON: Do you think there should be — I don’t know, a delay of some sort? And then you can — because people believe, the president will say what he has to say, people will believe it whether the facts are true or not. I guess that’s the chance you take with any president —

CUOMO: Yeah!

LEMON: — but this one is different. And then, by the times the rebuttals come on, we’ve already promoted propaganda, possibly, unless he gets up there and tells the truth.

CUOMO: He has his right to make the argument to the American people. And by the way, wanting barriers along the border is not propaganda.

LEMON: No, no, no —

CUOMO: It’s not immoral, it’s not wrong.
 
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lol you know extremists have overtaken the debate for the Democrats and the left when Chris Freaking Cuomo is having to slap Don Lemon around for being an idiot. Don Lemon's position is basically in lockstep with the DNC and extremists like FC.

LEMON: Do you think there should be — I don’t know, a delay of some sort? And then you can — because people believe, the president will say what he has to say, people will believe it whether the facts are true or not. I guess that’s the chance you take with any president —

CUOMO: Yeah!

LEMON: — but this one is different. And then, by the times the rebuttals come on, we’ve already promoted propaganda, possibly, unless he gets up there and tells the truth.

CUOMO: He has his right to make the argument to the American people. And by the way, wanting barriers along the border is not propaganda.

LEMON: No, no, no —

CUOMO: It’s not immoral, it’s not wrong.

When I first glanced at this post I saw the word "LEMON" and I was briefly amazed and pleasantly surprised and thought 85 was actually making a decent and intelligently funny post by quoting 3rd rock.

Of course not, lmao. This stupid sack of shit couldn't make a witty or non political post if his pathetic life depended on it.
 
You could put 24 hour guards every 100 yards for 10 years for the price of this wall. They wouldn't even need binoculars to make sure no one was coming. Looooooooool.
And yet you were upset that we sent troops to the border just a couple of months ago.
 
You could put 24 hour guards every 100 yards for 10 years for the price of this wall. They wouldn't even need binoculars to make sure no one was coming. Looooooooool.

Better check your math. What you are suggesting would cost 49 billion over 10 years just for payroll.
 
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There was also a law that people could own people. There was also a law that alcohol was illegal. There was also a law that all jew should be rounded up and murdered.

You still haven't answered my question.

Non sequitor at best, strawman at worst. The equivalent would be saying that since immigration laws aren't enforced then bank fraud also shouldn't be.
 
Non sequitor at best, strawman at worst. The equivalent would be saying that since immigration laws aren't enforced then bank fraud also shouldn't be.

FC tried to tell me the other day that since people sometimes cheat on their tax returns, we don't need an enforced border.
 
FC tried to tell me the other day that since people sometimes cheat on their tax returns, we don't need an enforced border.
I tried to get you to self discover that the only reason this crime is more important to you than other crimes is because you've been swept up in brown people fear mongering hysteria.
 
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Non sequitor at best, strawman at worst. The equivalent would be saying that since immigration laws aren't enforced then bank fraud also shouldn't be.

I was merely pointing out that "being legal" does not equate to being a good reason as to why it should be enforced.

So far the reasons you have given me are:

1) some weird rant about how a cop harassing you means we should build a wall

2) It is legal (I have proven being legal is not the same as being a good idea, or moral)

3) Re-iterated the price. Yes I know how to do simple division. 5 Billion divided by the population of the US is not a reason for building it.
 
I tried to get you to self discover that the only reason this crime is more important to you than other crimes is because you've been swept up in brown people fear mongering hysteria.

The left wing extremist playbook- when you've been made to look ridiculous in debate, go to the race card. How predictably pathetic! :cool2:
 
The left wing extremist playbook- when you've been made to look ridiculous in debate, go to the race card. How predictably pathetic! :cool2:
Tell me why you care about this law more than others then. These people are causing no significant harm other than getting in the occasional traffic accident. This became a campaign issue to froth up the dumb hicks and you got swept up in it. You want to win but you'll see no benefit personally. It's always been a race issue because that's how it started.
 
Ah. My bad. Well maybe instead of 200 miles worth of 30 foot fence we could just build 2000 miles of 3 foot fence then. That way the birds could still migrate back and forth for the same money

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I was merely pointing out that "being legal" does not equate to being a good reason as to why it should be enforced.

So far the reasons you have given me are:

1) some weird rant about how a cop harassing you means we should build a wall

2) It is legal (I have proven being legal is not the same as being a good idea, or moral)

3) Re-iterated the price. Yes I know how to do simple division. 5 Billion divided by the population of the US is not a reason for building it.

If your stance is that it shouldnt be illegal then why are you focused on the cost? Just say that any money spent on immigration enforcement is a waste and we can discuss that aspect of it.
 
If your stance is that it shouldnt be illegal then why are you focused on the cost? Just say that any money spent on immigration enforcement is a waste and we can discuss that aspect of it.

My stance is the wall is going to cost us BILLIONS of dollars, and no one (including yourself) has been able to list one way I will benefit from it.
 
Tell me why you care about this law more than others then. These people are causing no significant harm other than getting in the occasional traffic accident. This became a campaign issue to froth up the dumb hicks and you got swept up in it. You want to win but you'll see no benefit personally. It's always been a race issue because that's how it started.

Why are you ignorantly assuming I care about "these laws" more than others? Oh that's right, you're just making wild assumptions to feed your insane claims of racism.

This is not just a "law" we are talking about. It's the fact that our entire deck of federal immigration laws are being deliberately abused and ignored by people that they think they're above the law, and supported by political operatives such as yourself that want to shield these people from obeying our basic immigration laws.

I want to make sure that anyone coming here is coming legally. The fact that ANYONE opposes this is beyond absurd, dangerous, and makes them an extremist. Like you.
 
My stance is the wall is going to cost us BILLIONS of dollars, and no one (including yourself) has been able to list one way I will benefit from it.
So are you good with the status quo? What exactly should immigration enforcement look like in the republic of Ninja?

Geez, that actually sounds like a pretty badass country.
 
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Why are you ignorantly assuming I care about "these laws" more than others? Oh that's right, you're just making wild assumptions to feed your insane claims of racism.

This is not just a "law" we are talking about. It's the fact that our entire deck of federal immigration laws are being deliberately abused and ignored by people that they think they're above the law, and supported by political operatives such as yourself that want to shield these people from obeying our basic immigration laws.

I want to make sure that anyone coming here is coming legally. The fact that ANYONE opposes this is beyond absurd, dangerous, and makes them an extremist. Like you.
But why do you care?

Because you got swept up in hysteria aimed at frothing up hillbilly voters. It's not a problem worth throwing money at. Trump is campaigning already for 2020 and them is is him trying to froth up the racists again.
 
But why do you care?

Because you got swept up in hysteria aimed at frothing up hillbilly voters. It's not a problem worth throwing money at. Trump is campaigning already for 2020 and them is is him trying to froth up the racists again.

Why do I care about people sneaking across our borders illegally??

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The question that sums up the entire Democratic Party in 2019 - right there.
 
Ah. My bad. Well maybe instead of 200 miles worth of 30 foot fence we could just build 2000 miles of 3 foot fence then. That way the birds could still migrate back and forth for the same money
hungry stopped 99.7% of their illegal immigration problems with a 100 mile 4ft barb wire fence
 
Why do I care about people sneaking across our borders illegally??

[roll][roll][roll][roll][roll][roll][roll][roll][roll][roll][roll][roll][roll]

The question that sums up the entire Democratic Party in 2019 - right there.
Fc has a point. If this wasn't just about race then you wouldn't have a lock on your front door.

For me it is absolutely about race. I don't mind the Mexicans, its the damn Jews and hippies sneaking through that bugs me. I'd even be ok with some blacks just as long as they are more Lenny Kravitz and less Mike Tyson. And don't even get me started on the Phillipinos.
 
99.7 is a fever. And the only cure is more barbed wire .
Also, hungry has their own problems like starvation. They should have seen that coming. Seriously, name your country "Luxury" or "Chicks with big jugs" if you want to be successful.
 
So are you good with the status quo? What exactly should immigration enforcement look like in the republic of Ninja?

Geez, that actually sounds like a pretty badass country.

You will always have a place of honor in the Republic of Ninja, where the status quo is good enough

Why do I care about people sneaking across our borders illegally??

[roll][roll][roll][roll][roll][roll][roll][roll][roll][roll][roll][roll][roll]

The question that sums up the entire Democratic Party in 2019 - right there.

Obvious deflection, yet again. You haven't given a good reason why you care more about these people breaking the law vs you breaking the law.
 
Fc has a point. If this wasn't just about race then you wouldn't have a lock on your front door.

For me it is absolutely about race. I don't mind the Mexicans, its the damn Jews and hippies sneaking through that bugs me. I'd even be ok with some blacks just as long as they are more Lenny Kravitz and less Mike Tyson. And don't even get me started on the Phillipinos.

Yep. Good point- FC is right. House and car locks are RACIST!!
 
You will always have a place of honor in the Republic of Ninja, where the status quo is good enough



Obvious deflection, yet again. You haven't given a good reason why you care more about these people breaking the law vs you breaking the law.

A samurai like myself would never be welcome in the land of ninjas. Our code disallows us to associate with derelicts
 
Liberals throw around the racism card when they need to deflect away from the fact that opposing a secure border is both insane and extreme as a political position.
 
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Serious question, no troll: Can anyone name a single time that 85 has ever deviated from being a 100% brain dead shill for the GOP?

I honestly can't think of a single time he has thought for himself.

Kneeling players: Mindless shill
Trade war with China: Mindless shill
Racist border wall: Mindless shill
Endless war in the middle east: Mindless shill
Insulting Trump because he is obviously a dementia ridden insane piece of shit (before he was the GOP candidate): Mindless shill
100% defending of every single Trump policy now that he is the GOP leader: Mindless shill

Can anyone name a single event? I'll leave the board a day for a single instance. That should be be incentive for some of you that are tired of being embarrassed by me :joy:
 
Serious question, no troll: Can anyone name a single time that 85 has ever deviated from being a 100% brain dead shill for the GOP?

I honestly can't think of a single time he has thought for himself.

Kneeling players: Mindless shill
Trade war with China: Mindless shill
Racist border wall: Mindless shill
Endless war in the middle east: Mindless shill
Insulting Trump because he is obviously a dementia ridden insane piece of shit (before he was the GOP candidate): Mindless shill
100% defending of every single Trump policy now that he is the GOP leader: Mindless shill

Can anyone name a single event? I'll leave the board a day for a single instance. That should be be incentive for some of you that are tired of being embarrassed by me :joy:

You are arguing against 85 because his positions arent libertarian and yet you constantly mock libertatians.

Freedom of speech.
Free trade.
Open borders.
Anti foreign entanglements.


You mock wayne for being a libertarian .
 
Yep. Good point- FC is right. House and car locks are RACIST!!
Are you saying associating a need for house and car locks with a specific race isn't racist? Is that the joke?

I'm waiting on you to tell me why you're so passionate about this issue. What will change in your life once the money is spent on a wall?
 
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