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Brandon Wimbush

JAFFX2 said:
You are comparing apples and bananas...............We are coming off of 12-1 not 6-7. This program is at a tipping point and cannot afford to regress. We don't need off years while developing QBs. If you want to be a big time program, you act and perform like one. You bring in another QB who can compete and win games. Right now a transfer is our best shot at that. It is crazy that people are questioning CJH who has a proven track record for developing QBs and has been extremely selective in recruiting QBs. This kid is a freak athlete, highly ranked dual threat with a monster arm who unfortunately played in a complex pro style offense.......It is amazing that people are negative about a highly ranked QB with an offer sheet a mile long who played 1 1/2 years at ND but he wasn't a good fit for the scheme.....just look at the past 2 Heisman winners.........transfer QBs who had monster years in new system. This kid will absolutely kill it in the AAC if he decides to transfer to UCF
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I think he had more yardage running the ball in his first year than any QB in the history of UCF vs top notch competition. If you don’t include sacks, it’s probably near or over 1000 yards and a 6 or 7 yard average

Was looking for his net yardage

Therefore, he can run all over the defenses we play even if he’s just an OK passer,.
 
BlakNGoldAllDay said:
My ideal situation is to get a proven pocket passer. If we can’t we hold steady with what he have and give our future more reps. If we brought in a grad transfer after Ark State game Milton would have lost reps and probably wouldn’t have progressed so rapidly. He probably even transfers.
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So what happens if Mack gets hurt? Which risk is better, having Mack not progress due to competition (which could happen even if no competition is brought in), or Mack being injured (god forbid) and quadry is our backup or a true frosh qb goes in.
 
I'm the type of person who thinks the morale of the team is very important. If the vibe in the locker room is bad, I expect performance to go down. Its true that bringing in a transfer QB could cause drama and morale could fall off. But, you know whats guaranteed to lower morale? Losing games.

In sports, coaches and players can't sacrifice performance in order to try to baby team morale.

I think Mack has a great attitude. He's the type of guy with a really positive personality. So, I think his ego and feelings will handle the competition very well.

And if we bring in a transfer QB I'm going to be rooting for Mack to win that competition.
 
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Ok, here is my humble 2 cents.

The Good:

Number one, outstanding character, great leadership ability, and his players give it their all for him. At 6'2 222 he is not just fast he's powerful and very durable and he can go head to head with any LB. He has great arm strength and can extend some impossible looking plays. Of course he's a threat to break one open anytime on his feet. Opposing defenses have to account for him which definitely should open up the passing game.

The Bad:

Inconsistency, and inaccuracy. It really makes me wonder how well he was being developed at Notre Dame. ND hired first time (ever) QB position coach Tommy Reese, which I opposed, and wonder if he really had the skills to develop Brandon's mechanics where most of his issues lie. Brandon played behind which was arguably the best OL in the nation where two OL went in the first ten picks of the first round. Had some huge WR's and one of the best RB's in the country in Josh Adams and the offense was still mediocre. The other issue was his RPO reads were also very inconsistent and the ability to read and find open receivers. He was under 50% and was 4 TD's and 6 ints when the decision was finally made to pull him.

That being said, I think he would be a great fit at UCF. Not to put down the conference but Wimbush has played some big games with big teams and will not be rattled. I think if he can get his mechanics polished, get some confidence back, he would be a great get for you all.
 
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irish4life888 said:
Ok, here is my humble 2 cents.

The Good:

Number one, outstanding character, great leadership ability, and his players give it their all for him. At 6'2 222 he is not just fast he's powerful and very durable and he can go head to head with any LB. He has great arm strength and can extend some impossible looking plays. Of course he's a threat to break one open anytime on his feet. Opposing defenses have to account for him which definitely should open up the passing game.

The Bad:

Inconsistency, and inaccuracy. It really makes me wonder how well he was being developed at Notre Dame. ND hired first time (ever) QB position coach Tommy Reese, which I opposed, and wonder if he really had the skills to develop Brandon's mechanics where most of his issues lie. Brandon played behind which was arguably the best OL in the nation where two OL went in the first ten picks of the first round. Had some huge WR's and one of the best RB's in the country in Josh Adams and the offense was still mediocre. The other issue was his RPO reads were also very inconsistent and the ability to read and find open receivers. He was under 50% and was 4 TD's and 6 ints when the decision was finally made to pull him.

That being said, I think he would be a great fit at UCF. Not to put down the conference but Wimbush has played some big games with big teams and will not be rattled. I think if he can get his mechanics polished, get some confidence back, he would be a great get for you all.
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And here's my humble 1 cent. Isn't it great how easy it is for all of us to be armchair coaches and quarterbacks?
 
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Knight Strength said:
I'm the type of person who thinks the morale of the team is very important. If the vibe in the locker room is bad, I expect performance to go down. Its true that bringing in a transfer QB could cause drama and morale could fall off. But, you know whats guaranteed to lower morale? Losing games.

In sports, coaches and players can't sacrifice performance in order to try to baby team morale.

I think Mack has a great attitude. He's the type of guy with a really positive personality. So, I think his ego and feelings will handle the competition very well.

And if we bring in a transfer QB I'm going to be rooting for Mack to win that competition.
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Competition is part of life being a college athlete. You don't think it would be any different for the wide receiver group as an example? We constantly are recruiting multiple WR's. Some will never see the game. There are 85 scholarships and only so many spots on the team.

We need 4 or 5 scholarship QB's at all times. Mack will just have to win the starting spot just like every other college. I would like to see the Wimbush, Mack, and Dillon battle it out for the starting spot. I'll be honest going 11/30 passing against a depleted LSU defense makes me a little nervous going into next season. He can get better having a full offseason though, which is why I want more competition. If he doesn't progress we will have other options.

UCF is in a spot where the Big 12 will likely expand in 2024-25 once their TV contract expires. We need to be super aggressive to make sure we continue to win championships.
 
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irish4life888 said:
Hence the quote, "My humble 2 cents"... Not saying I can develop him better, just my observations of following him the last few years, and repeating what many experts have said.
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My reply wasn't aimed at you but on all of the posts that we are reading. LOL Your's was great.
 
KNIGHTTIME^ said:
Competition is part of life being a college athlete. You don't think it would be any different for the wide receiver group as an example? We constantly are recruiting multiple WR's. Some will never see the game. There are 85 scholarships and only so many spots on the team.

We need 4 or 5 scholarship QB's at all times. Mack will just have to win the starting spot just like every other college. I would like to see the Wimbush, Mack, and Dillon battle it out for the starting spot. I'll be honest going 11/30 passing against a depleted LSU defense makes me a little nervous going into next season. He can get better having a full offseason though, which is why I want more competition. If he doesn't progress we will have other options.

UCF is in a spot where the Big 12 will likely expand in 2024-25 once their TV contract expires. We need to be super aggressive to make sure we continue to win championships.
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yep most UCF fans saw this leading up to the game and thought the O would have a day. the drives were ugly and the box score could have been much worse without a few plays in other phases. 10 points off a pick 6 and muffed punt
 
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BlakNGoldAllDay said:
We haven’t had great success. Vic Penn and Hodges are all I can think of that actually played. Penn got beat out by a True Freshman in Ryan Schneider. Hodges lost 5 games. That’s great success ?
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Transfers are rarely successful...more like patchwork in the past. I've got to say in the last couple of years they have been more productive. Mostly because too many talented kids end up at one place and there is only room for 1 at the QB position. Hodges is a success story...sort of. We went 8-5. He only threw 17 TDs against 13 Ints with a 60% completion percentage. Not great but serviceable when you have no other option (like we did). For a guy that had basically only started 2 games in three previous seasons (and some junk time here or there), and came in only a few weeks before the season started, he did an admirable job. At the same time, props to Charlie Taaffe, because Hodges success was probably more due to him. The guy was money.
2009: Hodges 8-5
2010: Godfrey 11-3 (conference title)
2011: Godfrey/Bortles 5-7
2012: Bortles 10-4 (lost conference title game)
2013: Bortles 12-1 (conference title)
2014: Holman 9-4 (1/3 conference title)

Under this guy guiding our offense we went 55-24.
 
mattropolis said:
At the same time, props to Charlie Taaffe, because Hodges success was probably more due to him. The guy was money.
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He was money wasn't he? He had a unique craft to be a really good OC and a really good QB coach. They had dedicated specialist at the QB coach role before him who couldn't really get it done. (i.e. Salem, Godsey)

He handled those dual role responsibilities really well, and was definitely under recognized for that.
 
mattropolis said:
Transfers are rarely successful...more like patchwork in the past. I've got to say in the last couple of years they have been more productive. Mostly because too many talented kids end up at one place and there is only room for 1 at the QB position. Hodges is a success story...sort of. We went 8-5. He only threw 17 TDs against 13 Ints with a 60% completion percentage. Not great but serviceable when you have no other option (like we did). For a guy that had basically only started 2 games in three previous seasons (and some junk time here or there), and came in only a few weeks before the season started, he did an admirable job. At the same time, props to Charlie Taaffe, because Hodges success was probably more due to him. The guy was money.
2009: Hodges 8-5
2010: Godfrey 11-3 (conference title)
2011: Godfrey/Bortles 5-7
2012: Bortles 10-4 (lost conference title game)
2013: Bortles 12-1 (conference title)
2014: Holman 9-4 (1/3 conference title)

Under this guy guiding our offense we went 55-24.
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Agree at the time we just needed a game manager because defense was pretty decent. 8-5 was acceptable because just getting into a Bowl was a goal. Now for us it’s NY6 or failure.
 
Yaes said:
My reply wasn't aimed at you but on all of the posts that we are reading. LOL Your's was great.
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Oh I totally understand and I'm guilty during games and coach the coaches through the screen every time. I can make a 50 yard fg no problem at least I'm my head lol.
 
Boston.Knight said:
It's really the cultural fit is equally as important.

* Is he mature?
* Does he see the value proposition of UCF?
* Does he stay out of trouble, and check all the other culture boxes?
* Does he see himself fitting in?
* Can he see himself living in Florida for at least the next year or two?

I think our players know we need more depth at the position, and with KZ healing up would provide much needed short term help.
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Agree. But what are the culture boxes?
 
Brandon is the highest character teammate you will find. Unfortunately, he just isn’t very accurate throwing the ball or making quick decisions. I don’t think he brings anything we don’t already have in Mack.
 
mattropolis said:
Transfers are rarely successful...more like patchwork in the past. I've got to say in the last couple of years they have been more productive. Mostly because too many talented kids end up at one place and there is only room for 1 at the QB position. Hodges is a success story...sort of. We went 8-5. He only threw 17 TDs against 13 Ints with a 60% completion percentage. Not great but serviceable when you have no other option (like we did). For a guy that had basically only started 2 games in three previous seasons (and some junk time here or there), and came in only a few weeks before the season started, he did an admirable job. At the same time, props to Charlie Taaffe, because Hodges success was probably more due to him. The guy was money.
2009: Hodges 8-5
2010: Godfrey 11-3 (conference title)
2011: Godfrey/Bortles 5-7
2012: Bortles 10-4 (lost conference title game)
2013: Bortles 12-1 (conference title)
2014: Holman 9-4 (1/3 conference title)

Under this guy guiding our offense we went 55-24.
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Gosh Godfrey was horrible, wait I meant CALABRESE.
 
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mattropolis said:
Transfers are rarely successful...more like patchwork in the past. I've got to say in the last couple of years they have been more productive. Mostly because too many talented kids end up at one place and there is only room for 1 at the QB position. Hodges is a success story...sort of. We went 8-5. He only threw 17 TDs against 13 Ints with a 60% completion percentage. Not great but serviceable when you have no other option (like we did). For a guy that had basically only started 2 games in three previous seasons (and some junk time here or there), and came in only a few weeks before the season started, he did an admirable job. At the same time, props to Charlie Taaffe, because Hodges success was probably more due to him. The guy was money.
2009: Hodges 8-5
2010: Godfrey 11-3 (conference title)
2011: Godfrey/Bortles 5-7
2012: Bortles 10-4 (lost conference title game)
2013: Bortles 12-1 (conference title)
2014: Holman 9-4 (1/3 conference title)

Under this guy guiding our offense we went 55-24.
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I think the way GOL ran the Program didn't really fit transfers like they do with UCF's post GOL Head Coaches.

Oklahoma is the biggest example of them working. Mayfield and Murray neither committed to OU out of high school
 
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SiberianKnightmare said:
Brandon is the highest character teammate you will find. Unfortunately, he just isn’t very accurate throwing the ball or making quick decisions. I don’t think he brings anything we don’t already have in Mack.
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And perhaps that can be attributed to the fact that his QB position coach was a first time ever QB coach and that ND has a bad recent track record for developing QBs........

"He has the most athletic gifts Brian Kelly has had in his tenure here.
BK has a terrible track record at developing QB's. They don't just get stale but regress in their play. That is a pattern that can't be debated. I would be willing to bet your staff can get more out of him than we did."
 
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JAFFX2 said:
And perhaps than can be attributed to the fact that his QB position coach was a first time ever QB coach and that ND has a bad recent track record for developing QBs........

"He has the most athletic gifts Brian Kelly has had in his tenure here.
BK has a terrible track record at developing QB's. They don't just get stale but regress in their play. That is a pattern that can't be debated. I would be willing to bet your staff can get more out of him than we did."
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If Mack progresses well and doesn’t get injured, we probably win 8-10 games. It’s always possible that we can go undefeated again

If he gets hurt, doesn’t progress, or we are forced to go with a complete unknown, in Quadry Jones, who knows??

Do we go 0-12? 4-8? 6-6?

Do we want to go into the 2019 season with the real possibility of sucking again?
 
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Boston.Knight said:
Doing more reading on this kid. Would seriously be a good fit for UCF.

Nice to have at least a few kids from up North in the mix. Worked out really well in the past for both parties . Tay Murray, Breezy, and bunch of other ballers. Good for the Florida kids to have some northern influence and visa-versa.
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He's horrendous.
 
Even if Wimbush comes in and starts, Mack would still have his junior and senior seasons left to play.
 
Notre Dame graduate transfer quarterback Brandon Wimbush arrived on Saturday for a visit.

UCF's pursuit of a grad transfer QB has been tight-lipped, but it was believed the staff would make a strong run at Jalen Hurts (Alabama) and Wimbush. Deondre Francois (FSU) was no longer an option because he didn't graduate in December which had been the expectation.

Hurts has visited Maryland (Friday), Oklahoma (Saturday) and Miami (Sunday).

On Friday night, Notre Dame sources began hearing Wimbush would be visiting UCF and that the Knights could be the favorite.

It was also believed Wimbush had plans to visit one other school immediately after UCF, but Wimbush's camp declined to reveal where (this was via Notre Dame Rivals).

If he's UCF bound, one would think we would know very soon just because of the timing in regards to being enrolled for the spring semester (UCF's official deadline passed, but the football program can pull some strings).
 
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Mikesi said:
USF? FAU?

That would really suck!
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....do you know how to use google or are you too stupid to be able to? It’s penn state where he originally committed before nd. But they signed mjj so mjj is probably starting. But my god you and your daily spurg out where you know nothing and panic is almost as autistic as Yaes entire family
 
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Youreanidiot2 said:
....do you know how to use google or are you too stupid to be able to? It’s penn state where he originally committed before nd. But they signed mjj so mjj is probably starting. But my god you and your daily spurg out where you know nothing and panic is almost as autistic as Yaes entire family
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Great first post. Welcome*
 
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Great first post. Welcome*
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Thanks thanks I am glad I can instruct someone on how to use google or do a simple twitter search.

Also given that one of the more prominent posters on ucf’s Rivals(mr Corey aka KL)has 2 counts of domestic abuse against him I wouldn’t get on my moral high horse
 
Youreanidiot2 said:
....do you know how to use google or are you too stupid to be able to? It’s penn state where he originally committed before nd. But they signed mjj so mjj is probably starting. But my god you and your daily spurg out where you know nothing and panic is almost as autistic as Yaes entire family
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Just googled this!

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