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Case denied

What wouldn't be traceable in jurisdictions where they do not perform signature verification is ballot swapping (or even if they do since signatures are easy to duplicate and judges have thrown out signature verification in some jurisdictions anyways). Which can happen at any point along the way. You mail off your ballot and then you might be able to check if it was received and recorded. But you can't see what votes were actually recorded for you. So a man-in-the-middle attack can modify that ballot and no one would know. And there are so many opportunities to do so, even if you're not talking about ballot harvesting.

The problem is that the only way currently to verify the above is to canvas every household that mailed-in and verify the vote that was recorded was actually the vote that they intended to file. That remedy was denied by nearly every judge along the way. What we end up with in real life is that there is no way in current law to detect and remedy a competent man-in-the-middle attack in a Presidential election because of the tight timeframes enacted.

It doesn't help that there have been videos of Democrats around the country admitting to doing exactly what was described and they are neither investigated nor are they carried by the MSM. This kind of sweeping-under-the-carpet causes people to have distrust in a system that is obviously flawed.
The envelops have a tamper seal that is checked as part of the verification process. If there was actual evidence of fraud then it should be pursued in a criminal court and the perpetrator held accountable. In fact this occurs all the time. Just because Don Jr. tweets something doesn’t mean it is actual evidence of fraud. Not arresting someone because of a tweet isn’t “sweeping it under the rug” either. Are you saying that prosecutors are sitting on evidence of fraud but aren’t indicting people because they are democrats?
 
The envelops have a tamper seal that is checked as part of the verification process. If there was actual evidence of fraud then it should be pursued in a criminal court and the perpetrator held accountable. In fact this occurs all the time. Just because Don Jr. tweets something doesn’t mean it is actual evidence of fraud. Not arresting someone because of a tweet isn’t “sweeping it under the rug” either. Are you saying that prosecutors are sitting on evidence of fraud but aren’t indicting people because they are democrats?
The envelope is easily reproducible as is the ballot. There's more security in almost any document transfer that you make than there is in our voting. If it's the most important thing in our society, then we need to treat it as such.
 
The envelope is easily reproducible as is the ballot. There's more security in almost any document transfer that you make than there is in our voting. If it's the most important thing in our society, then we need to treat it as such.
Every county has a different envelope and different ballot. All individually tracked by barcode. Sounds like quite an operation they must have going.
 
Exactly...I thought the same thing in Florida. Whats the verification you're not voting twice (person and mail) and anything legal to be done if you do it.
If you were sent a mail in ballot, when you show up to vote in person they will know this. If you choose to vote in person and bring the mail in ballot then they will let you vote on a regular ballot. If you don’t have the mail in ballot then and they cannot confirm it’s cancellation real time then you vote on a provisional ballot which is only counted once the duplicate mail in has been cancelled.
 
The ballots can be in the mail when you vote in person. You're asking a lot of the technology 30 years behind around elections.
Can you read? If you don’t bring the ballot with you then you vote on a provisional which isn’t counted immediately.
 
There is zero automation. Not buying it

It's going to vary county by county - but this is the purpose of provisional ballots. It's absolutely automated. The database knows if you've been sent a mail in ballot when you check in. If the system says you've been sent a ballot, you have to surrender that ballot to vote. If you don't have the ballot then you cast a provisional - which means it will not count if your mail in ballot has been received.

This is why provisional ballots are always the last thing to be counted. They have to verify that you no ballot case against your voter registration has already been cast. This isn't rocket science. Full proof? Of course not. Subject to human error? Of course. Is fraud possible? Like everything else in life, yes.
 
There is zero automation. Not buying it
Doesn’t matter if you “buy it” or not. That’s the process. When you show up in person they look up your registration information and if you requested a mail in ballot but didn’t bring it with you you vote on a provisional ballot.
 
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