Case denied

[KnighttimeJoe]

LMFAO holy shit what an idiotic take.

Do you honestly think anyone stupid enough to support Trump in Dec of 2020 is going to change their mind based on new information?

Dude this is a cult. If the supreme court heard the case and ruled against trump, trump cultists would just have labeled the SC as a part of the liberal deep state.

Have you honestly not been paying attention to trump supporters?

This is 100% correct.

Jesus Christ could float down from heaven and say, "This election was 100% legitimate, my children," and the MAGATs would scream that he's a stupid liberal hippie who needs to gtfo.

These same idiots can't explain to you how there was only fraud in the states Trump lost.

These same idiots think the federal judges who Trump appointed and tossed case after case after bullshit case regarding the election are in on it as well.

These idiots have thrown overboard any semblance of logic, were there any to begin with...

 

[goodknightfl]

I voted for Trump, but what is going to happen in Jan is going to happen. Biden is going to be the presidential place holder for Harris. I have no problems with the challenges, but they rarely work, and virtually never on National race. The scotus had little choice here, as if they took it and decided voting was unconstitutional, The fixes would have been horrid. No court wants to overturn a presidential election.

 

[NinjaKnight]

This is 100% correct.

Jesus Christ could float down from heaven and say, "This election was 100% legitimate, my children," and the MAGATs would scream that he's a stupid liberal hippie who needs to gtfo.

These same idiots can't explain to you how there was only fraud in the states Trump lost.

These same idiots think the federal judges who Trump appointed and tossed case after case after bullshit case regarding the election are in on it as well.

These idiots have thrown overboard any semblance of logic, were there any to begin with...

A metric shit ton of stupid stuff gets posted on this board, but I gotta rank " Second, having the highest court review what has happened in this election would go a long way in calming the anxiety of citizens on both sides. " up there. I mean seriously, in what world have trump supporters ever once shown that they are willing to listen to evidence and change their mind?

Maybe it's just because I have the really stupid ones on ignore, but this really just rubbed me the wrong way. WTF happened to happy hands? I thought he used to be pretty intelligent?

 

[DaShuckster]

A metric shit ton of stupid stuff gets posted on this board, but I gotta rank " Second, having the highest court review what has happened in this election would go a long way in calming the anxiety of citizens on both sides. " up there. I mean seriously, in what world have trump supporters ever once shown that they are willing to listen to evidence and change their mind?

We were all supposed to believe that the election was conducted beautifully in all the states Trump won. It was only in the states that Biden flipped where the vote was 'suspicious.'

Trump tells the country for months leading up to the election that mail-in voting was baaaaad and in-person voting (despite covid) was 'the only way to go.' Then in all the states where the mail-in votes were counted last due to state laws, our resident Trumpsters raise their eyebrows over the 'unusually high' number of mail-in votes for Biden. Did it ever occur to them that is exactly why Trump played the 'mail-in votes are bad' card from the get-go?

If all of our archaic election laws in some states had been changed, the mail-in votes would have been counted early and the outcome would have been decided by 11 o'clock on election night.

 

[Happy Hands]

LMFAO holy shit what an idiotic take.

Do you honestly think anyone stupid enough to support Trump in Dec of 2020 is going to change their mind based on new information?

Dude this is a cult. If the supreme court heard the case and ruled against trump, trump cultists would just have labeled the SC as a part of the liberal deep state.

Have you honestly not been paying attention to trump supporters?

Thanks, dick.

 

[NinjaKnight]

Thanks, dick.

 

[KnighttimeJoe]

A metric shit ton of stupid stuff gets posted on this board, but I gotta rank " Second, having the highest court review what has happened in this election would go a long way in calming the anxiety of citizens on both sides. " up there. I mean seriously, in what world have trump supporters ever once shown that they are willing to listen to evidence and change their mind?

Maybe it's just because I have the really stupid ones on ignore, but this really just rubbed me the wrong way. WTF happened to happy hands? I thought he used to be pretty intelligent?

I’ll give happy a pass here. He is usually pretty solid as a poster. He must be hitting the bottle a bit more than usual.

 

[Crazyhole]

And it was different for the dems with Obama? Stop with the drama. Most of Trump’s suppoters couldn’t stand his loud, yankee ass before he became a candidate. They’ll live. And they need to grow the fukc up as it were. This is a very ordinary man—not a sports team.

Might want to look into what's happening in Washington tonight before you say I'm being dramatic. Trump supporters opening fire on protesters isn't a small thing.

 

[KnighttimeJoe]

Might want to look into what's happening in Washington tonight before you say I'm being dramatic. Trump supporters opening fire on protesters isn't a small thing.

Give me a ring when they declare war on the US and get their asses hung for treason.

 

[_glaciers]

These people are traitors to the United States of America by trying to overthrow the results of a lawful election.

who wants to tell him?

 

[NinjaKnight]

Trump loses election challenge lawsuit in Wisconsin, further cementing Biden win in presidential race

President Donald Trump and his allies keep losing court cases that challenge the victory by Joe Biden in the presidential election.

www.cnbc.com

Trump just got lost .. again.

The level of embarrassment being experienced by MAGAts is only exceeded by the level of stupidity required to still be a trump supporter in Dec of 2020

The entire world is laughing at your inbred, conspiracy theory spewing idiotic selves.

 

[DaShuckster]

Trump just got lost .. again. The level of embarrassment being experienced by MAGAts is only exceeded by the level of stupidity required to still be a trump supporter in Dec of 2020

Thank God, judges in this country are not as feckless and immoral as the Republicans in Congress.

 

[NinjaKnight]

Reminder that 70% of Americas GDP voted for Biden. So chances are if you voted for trump you are in fact a backwards unemployed inbred incel, which we already knew based on a sample size of this board.

 

[Crazyhole]

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Reminder that 70% of Americas GDP voted for Biden. So chances are if you voted for trump you are in fact a backwards unemployed inbred incel, which we already knew based on a sample size of this board.

90% of that 70% is based on the finance sector. Saying that making interest on investments is actual production is basically saying that loaning money creates wealth.

 

[DaShuckster]

Reminder that Florida now ranks #41 in covid cases per 100,000 residents.

LOL Reminder that Florida ranks #4 in the number of covid deaths.

 

[Ucfmikes]

LOL Reminder that Florida ranks #4 in the number of covid deaths.

You never took a class in statistics did you?

 

[_glaciers]

LOL Reminder that Florida ranks #4 in the number of covid deaths.

funny how he's basically cheerleading this statistic

 

[Ucfmikes]

funny how he's basically cheerleading this statistic

Democrats want people to die under Trump. Wait until January 20th. Let’s see how they change their tune

 

[_glaciers]

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Reminder that 70% of Americas GDP voted for Biden. So chances are if you voted for trump you are in fact a backwards unemployed inbred incel, which we already knew based on a sample size of this board.

that's a very racist statistic seeing as it's whites and Asians that make that possible

 

[_glaciers]

Democrats want people to die under Trump. Wait until January 20th. Let’s see how they change their tune

it's fine. i'll remember to laugh when groups like the Proud Boys start actually doing terrorism.

Can't wait to use the "it's just a reaction" and "this is the language of the unheard" excuse

 

[OLearyLastCall]

Joe Biden will win the Presidency today. Again.

 

[Crazyhole]

This is just weird.

 

[hemightbejeremy]

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This is just weird.

Not in the alternate reality Trump has created where he is the winner and will serve a second term. It’s par for the course.

 

[Boosted87]

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This is just weird.

Yup. And the Republican electors are apparently going to vote anyway and try to send those to congress?

 

[Crazyhole]

Yup. And the Republican electors are apparently going to vote anyway and try to send those to congress?

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I dont understand the point of this. Electors have to be appointed by the state legislatures, which has already happened. There must be a strategy here, but I don't get it. Can a state rescind their electors after the fact and place others?

 

[Crazyhole]

Kind of interesting, and pretty good evidence that we shouldn't be using this kind of election software anymore.

 

[NinjaKnight]

Yup. And the Republican electors are apparently going to vote anyway and try to send those to congress?

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Nice, calling McCain, a man who spent years being tortured and refused early release until all of his fellow captives were released, a coward.

Fuk this traitorous piece of shit

 

[DaShuckster]

Nice, calling McCain, a man who spent years being tortured and refused early release until all of his fellow captives were released, a coward.

You've got to love the Trumpian spin that it's the Republicans who DON'T follow Trump's bullshit like mindless little sheep who are cowards.

 

[Boosted87]

I dont understand the point of this. Electors have to be appointed by the state legislatures, which has already happened. There must be a strategy here, but I don't get it. Can a state rescind their electors after the fact and place others?

The strategy is to sew chaos and confusion and keep the right-wing propaganda machine fed with fresh meat. Basically, pretend you are Putin and your goal is to create as much distrust in institutions and elections as possible in the US and - that will help you predict Trump and crew's next move. Ride the whirlwind.

 

[Boosted87]

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Kind of interesting, and pretty good evidence that we shouldn't be using this kind of election software anymore.

To me, this is the equivalent of someone in 1888 being like "And here is where I write the tabulations for each candidate in these boxes."

Conspiratorial Observer "Wait good sir - are you telling me you could simply write down the wrong number and change the total?"

"Yes."

Oohs and Gasps from the crowd.

Or someone watching a bank teller take a cash deposit and being like "Wait - so you could just add 4 zeros to end when you type in the total?"

I don't see how the fact that the machine operator has the ability to commit fraud is in any way surprising. Except with a system like this, the fraud would easily be detectable with a recount and (I assume) traceable to the user who committed the fraud.

It also shows how widespread fraud would have to be matter nationally or even statewide if you're going to switch votes manually.

 

[DaShuckster]

I don't see how the fact that the machine operator has the ability to commit fraud is in any way surprising. Except with a system like this, the fraud would easily be detectable with a recount and (I assume) traceable to the user who committed the fraud.

Exactly. It doesn't seem to matter how many times these systems have been painstakingly explained, there are people who deliberately choose not to listen.

 

[sk8knight]

To me, this is the equivalent of someone in 1888 being like "And here is where I write the tabulations for each candidate in these boxes."

Conspiratorial Observer "Wait good sir - are you telling me you could simply write down the wrong number and change the total?"

"Yes."

Oohs and Gasps from the crowd.

Or someone watching a bank teller take a cash deposit and being like "Wait - so you could just add 4 zeros to end when you type in the total?"

I don't see how the fact that the machine operator has the ability to commit fraud is in any way surprising. Except with a system like this, the fraud would easily be detectable with a recount and (I assume) traceable to the user who committed the fraud.

It also shows how widespread fraud would have to be matter nationally or even statewide if you're going to switch votes manually.

The more concerning report is what is coming out of Antrim County, MI.

An independent security firm (run by a former Republican candidate for something or other) concluded "The Dominion Voting System is intentionally and purposefully designed with inherent errors to create systemic fraud and influence election results.” -

Results of Antrim County Audit of Ballot Counting Machines Released - 9 & 10 News

The results of an audit of ballot counting machines in Antrim County are being made available to the public. A judge authorized the release of the report Monday morning. A lawsuit filed last month by Bill Bailey led to the forensic examination, which was done by the Allied Security Operations...

www.9and10news.com

Of course state officials have disagreed, but there are concerns here. Given the system is such that Biden will be President, there's no rush anymore. Let's take all the time that we need to figure out conclusively if there was fraud or not and to assess and correct any issues with the systems and technology in place.

 

[Boosted87]

The more concerning report is what is coming out of Antrim County, MI.

An independent security firm (run by a former Republican candidate for something or other) concluded "The Dominion Voting System is intentionally and purposefully designed with inherent errors to create systemic fraud and influence election results.” -

Results of Antrim County Audit of Ballot Counting Machines Released - 9 & 10 News

The results of an audit of ballot counting machines in Antrim County are being made available to the public. A judge authorized the release of the report Monday morning. A lawsuit filed last month by Bill Bailey led to the forensic examination, which was done by the Allied Security Operations...

www.9and10news.com

Of course state officials have disagreed, but there are concerns here. Given the system is such that Biden will be President, there's no rush anymore. Let's take all the time that we need to figure out conclusively if there was fraud or not and to assess and correct any issues with the systems and technology in place.

The dude behind this (Russell Ramsland) is the same dude that's had laughably bad other claims in court. This is the same guy that presented evidence of fraud in his sworn affidavit that confused MN and MI precincts, comparing vote totals in one state precinct to actual votes in A DIFFERENT state.

Does that mean his analysis is fatally flawed this time? No. But he's got a huge strike against his credibility here as a neutral forensic investigator. Form my perspective, using him for the forensic audit - instead of high profile, politically neutral company with experienced expert witnesses accepted in other cases - tells you a lot here.

 

[Boosted87]

Of course state officials have disagreed, but there are concerns here. Given the system is such that Biden will be President, there's no rush anymore. Let's take all the time that we need to figure out conclusively if there was fraud or not and to assess and correct any issues with the systems and technology in place.

I'll also say there is absolutely nothing wrong with sunlight here. The problem is - even if Biden's DOJ appointed a Special Counsel to do a nationwide interrogation - Trump's base would be primed from day one not to believe the results.

I mean - look at GA. We've had multiple recounts / audits / hand counts and it still won't stop. There is no investigation you can do, no politically neutral digital forensics experts you can hire, who will put a dent in the conspiracy propaganda machine. Look at how widely lauded Mueller was by Republicans when chosen as special counsel, and look what Trump and team did to him publicly.

The lack of trust is being fostered directly by Trump himself, and he will continue to breed distrust unless/until he gets the results he wants. No audit or investigation that yields anything except "Trump actually won" will be accepted by him and by extension, his base. He is the problem. Not Dominion or anyone else.

 

[Crazyhole]

Exactly. It doesn't seem to matter how many times these systems have been painstakingly explained, there are people who deliberately choose not to listen.

The whole point of electronic balloting is to reduce the risk of mistakes or fraud. I'm cool with that, but as is evidenced by the video I shared it hasn't improved that possibility at all. IMO, this election isn't the issue, its that this election might have set the groundwork for fraudulent elections in the future if we don't take the threat seriously

 

[Boosted87]

I dont understand the point of this. Electors have to be appointed by the state legislatures, which has already happened. There must be a strategy here, but I don't get it. Can a state rescind their electors after the fact and place others?

OK so found some context here. There is a strategic purpose to these R electors voting today per precedent.

When Nixon lost to Kennedy in 1960, Hawaii actually flipped via recount that happened after the electoral college vote. But some smart thinker got the Republican electors to meet on the correct day and cast votes. Thus the Governor of Hawaii re-certified who the new winner was. Thus Nixon (as VP at the time) actually opened both competing slates of electors, both approved by the Governor.

It wouldn't have affected the outcome and Nixon counted the earlier decided Democratic slate and there were no objections. But had those republican electors failed to meet on the correct day and vote, the governor would have had no alternative slate to certify and send in.

So this effort reserves the ability for the state to re-certify a different set of electors prior to Jan 6th consistent with that Hawaii precedent.

Again - all super longshot stuff - and right-wing media is framing this incorrectly. These electors are meaningless as of today - but they are a legal placeholder in the event the state decided to take action and certify them prior to Jan 6th.

 

[hemightbejeremy]

The more concerning report is what is coming out of Antrim County, MI.

An independent security firm (run by a former Republican candidate for something or other) concluded "The Dominion Voting System is intentionally and purposefully designed with inherent errors to create systemic fraud and influence election results.” -

Results of Antrim County Audit of Ballot Counting Machines Released - 9 & 10 News

The results of an audit of ballot counting machines in Antrim County are being made available to the public. A judge authorized the release of the report Monday morning. A lawsuit filed last month by Bill Bailey led to the forensic examination, which was done by the Allied Security Operations...

www.9and10news.com

Of course state officials have disagreed, but there are concerns here. Given the system is such that Biden will be President, there's no rush anymore. Let's take all the time that we need to figure out conclusively if there was fraud or not and to assess and correct any issues with the systems and technology in place.

You are smarter than this. This expert also said that Michigan had more votes than voters. Because his data was for Minnesota.

there are concerns. Amongst people who only have a surface level understanding.

 

[sk8knight]

You are smarter than this. This expert also said that Michigan had more votes than voters. Because his data was for Minnesota.

there are concerns. Amongst people who only have a surface level understanding.

Yes but aren’t we being told that the Union is lost when people don’t have faith in our elections? That’s not just smart people or political people, that’s all people.
I’ve done enough cyber security in my career that it’s obvious that our election systems have glaring holes in them. I don’t care how we get to the conversation, that’s a conversation that needs to be held.

 

[hemightbejeremy]

Yes but aren’t we being told that the Union is lost when people don’t have faith in our elections? That’s not just smart people or political people, that’s all people.
I’ve done enough cyber security in my career that it’s obvious that our election systems have glaring holes in them. I don’t care how we get to the conversation, that’s a conversation that needs to be held.

I mean sure. It sucks that Trump is undermining the election and causing people not to have faith in the election, but him repeating a claim of widespread fraud 10 thousand times doesn’t make it so any more than him claiming Ted Cruz’s father killed JFK, Obama is not American, or vaccines cause autism makes those things true. It’s cool that you have “done enough cyber security” to think you know something, but eliminating these questions with software was the reason we increased our paper ballot percentage from 82% in 2016 to 95% in 2020. This was part of a massive effort to close potential fraud loopholes. For every instance of Hugo Chavez “flipping” hundreds of thousands of votes to Biden, we have actual physical ballots that beg to differ.

 

[NinjaKnight]

I mean sure. It sucks that Trump is undermining the election and causing people not to have faith in the election, but him repeating a claim of widespread fraud 10 thousand times doesn’t make it so any more than him claiming Ted Cruz’s father killed JFK, Obama is not American, or vaccines cause autism makes those things true. It’s cool that you have “done enough cyber security” to think you know something, but eliminating these questions with software was the reason we increased our paper ballot percentage from 82% in 2016 to 95% in 2020. This was part of a massive effort to close potential fraud loopholes. For every instance of Hugo Chavez “flipping” hundreds of thousands of votes to Biden, we have actual physical ballots that beg to differ.

Lol at thinking facts will change these cult member's minds.