Nooo... because we haven't really played to our full-potential since he's been here.
It's as simply as that.
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Fire Gus
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It's as simply as that.
I actually do not have a problem with him. He is a Miami fan and he does not hide that. I don’t know what his agenda is on this board, but he’s not trying to fake one like he has an interest in Ucf when his only interest is in the Coach I don’t see that in this guy.
Lobo seems like that guy who went into the wrong bar but still stayed for the drinks. He banters with others, but he’s pretty harmless. He cant find his way out of the bar, but doesn’t really mind being there.
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His trolling goes too far sometimes but he is really knowledgeable and in the loop with what is going on w recruiting and rosters. guessing he has a family member or close friend that attended or works at UCF.
It's called the QB cannot run the offense. There are reason for that with both KJ and, now, Brown. But Brown ... will get there.
JRP did a great job, especially when healthy. Frankly, this is why I think just running the direct snap to #7 should be 25% of our plays.
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Fire him at the end of season!
We get full XII checks in 2-1/2 months.
We get full XII checks in 2-1/2 months.
And who are we getting? And how much is their buy-out?
Are we going MAC to save money?
Just wondering, so our only option is to continue being the cellar of the Big 12 for the next 3 to 5 years, no matter how far Gus drags us down?
We don’t get a pick 6 and another near Pick 6 plus RJ big run. U r right Passing yards ugh. Army n Navy did better lol
Win probability hit 99.9% and yet we all knew what was going to happen. This is going to be messy, but it's time to cut our losses and start firing people.
Anyone who's watched UCF knows you can't give them the ball back with 2 minutes and a 5 point lead and expect that defense to get a stop. I would have went for it on 4th & 6.
So is halfway through the season the typical time universities fire coaches based on the 2 posts above?
I'm a "Please do your homework!" type of guy, reminding everyone that Dino Babers, not Scott Frost, was the favorite flavor of 2015 too. Heck, I also remember a lot of mother****ers on this board utterly hating on Frost and Milton in 2016 too!
But can you believe it?
Not one single mother****er on this board will 'own up' to that?! Oh, it must be another 'BS lie' and that no one bashed Frost for not playing the senior, and no one got on Milton at all in 2016, even though he had worse numbers than Keene in 2021.
There's this little thing called 'integrity.' When I'm wrong, I own it. But people forget, I was on the Frost train pretty quick when we got serious about him, and no longer Babers. But there were a lot of Babers nuthuggers ...
Just like some of the coaches people are throwing out now. Some have 5M and even almost 15M buy-outs too.
What does this have to do with Malzahn being awful? Honestly don’t think there has even been much talk on this board about potential replacements, Malzahn is still the coach so it’s kind of a moot point. I think there is just a consensus that Malzahn is not the answer and thus needs to go.
If it was just that, I'm good with that. But people are saying UCF is dead for decades if we don't fire Gus now, and everything will be better without him. I beg to differ on the assertion that no one could be worse, let alone that Gus is killing recruiting and no one wants to play for him. Especially when people talk in absolutes and act like no one has our problems.
Oh, you should read the board more! People are already putting out the "We're gonna miss out on X" over and over. I personally love it, because some of these people will cost at least $5-6M, if not $15M+, just to buy out their contracts. Hence my, "Do your homework!" It's a 1:1 repeat of Dino.
Exactly. But that doesn't stop some people from saying Gus has to be fired now, and if we don't do it now, we won't be good again until 2035+.
Was Whittingham? Patterson? You guys think this doesn't happen often? Do you think we're the only program that had a major regression like this? Personally I love the assertion that no one is using 5+ kids, let alone 10+, mid-season. I'm like, "Are you literally sticking your head in the sand? Why are you discrediting yourself?"
Remember ... don't shoot the messenger. I'm just calling out the BS. Wanna fire Gus?! Fine! But make a case of who to get that doesn't end up costing us $20M, let alone more than $30M! And saying kids don't want to play for Gus, and that he has destroyed UCF, is going to get a huge laugh from me ... and then a lot of examples of otherwise.
OVERJOYED to prove you wrong and since you're a complete moron who uses "Not one single...." I've said multiple, multiple, multiple times (since 2016) that the first season of Milton we needed 10 ft WRs because he couldn't complete many passes. So now, having proven you incompetent, ignorant and wrong, here's hoping you actually learn something before you speak.
Your sole point seems to be everyone here wants to hire Dino Barbers. No one has talked about him for YEARS. Why not bring up Mario Crystobal, or are you so simplistic you don't remember the push to get him on the board. No you just want to be ignorant, and rude. Congrats.If it was just that, I'm good with that. But people are saying UCF is dead for decades if we don't fire Gus now, and everything will be better without him. I beg to differ on the assertion that no one could be worse, let alone that Gus is killing recruiting and no one wants to play for him. Especially when people talk in absolutes and act like no one has our problems.
Oh, you should read the board more! People are already putting out the "We're gonna miss out on X" over and over. I personally love it, because some of these people will cost at least $5-6M, if not $15M+, just to buy out their contracts. Hence my, "Do your homework!" It's a 1:1 repeat of Dino.
Exactly. But that doesn't stop some people from saying Gus has to be fired now, and if we don't do it now, we won't be good again until 2035+.
Was Whittingham? Patterson? You guys think this doesn't happen often? Do you think we're the only program that had a major regression like this? Personally I love the assertion that no one is using 5+ kids, let alone 10+, mid-season. I'm like, "Are you literally sticking your head in the sand? Why are you discrediting yourself?"
Remember ... don't shoot the messenger. I'm just calling out the BS. Wanna fire Gus?! Fine! But make a case of who to get that doesn't end up costing us $20M, let alone more than $30M! And saying kids don't want to play for Gus, and that he has destroyed UCF, is going to get a huge laugh from me ... and then a lot of examples of otherwise.
Barry Odom, UNLV coach. Seems good at correcting other people's mistakes. Not sure if washed up, still in his 40s.
No to Frost, unless made an OC only. Yeah, he did well in Florida and had good connections, but I don't see anything that makes me believe he can coach effectively at a P4 level with the distractions...
No to Frost, unless made an OC only. Yeah, he did well in Florida and had good connections, but I don't see anything that makes me believe he can coach effectively at a P4 level with the distractions...
Then you have reading comprehension issues ... seriously.
Ergo ...That's my exact point! Thank you for at least recognizing he was ... "The New Hotness!"
Now Gus is the Old Busted, and -- I've seen several with $6-15M buy-outs of their own -- as "The New Hotness." See a pattern?
Because Dino is the ultimate example. But yes, there are 12-15 others I could think of. Mario is in the top 3. No argument. Furthermore ...
In full humility ... I said if we fire GOL, I want Mark Richt or someone 'defense/ball control oriented.' That way, GOL's recruits should work out within 2 years.
I was against going offense-oriented, because I feared it could take up to 5 years. And I was against all G5 HCs, especially Dino Babers! However ...
In full self-complement ... the second Frost's name came up, I was one of the guys said, "Hey, if we're going offense oriented, Frost is definitely a great P5 OC to get! That's what we need! But we need to give him 4-5 years, not 2-3 like most are getting these days."
And I remember being bashed by the Dino, Mario, et al. (not just him) crowd for Frost not having HC experience.
And I also remember getting 'ghoaded' by the Dino et al. crowd when Frost started Milton, although it wasn't as bad in 2016, as 2015. But some people were still 'sore' about Frost, and while they were happy about GOL being gone, they were also bashing Milton, and Frost for starting him against Maryland.
Remember, Milton's '16 stats under Frost were worse than Keene's '21 than Gus. And ... Milton had 6 fumbles, 3 lost, in his very first game against Maryland, plus an INT atop of that (4 turnovers, nearly 7).
Yes, him too. But Dino became the best example because of his horrendous time at Syrcuse.
No, Dino is the best example of the 12-15 flying about. Mario was in the top 3, but Dino works best ... especialy now.
Which is my point! We could get a Dino.
Okay. It's nice to get 1 person who admits it now! Well done! Thank you for pointing this out. I have been corrected ... about your stance in 2016! However, if you think that proves me wrong on Milton, think again! Ergo ...
So I'm ... incompetent, ignorant and wrong for being correct about Milton? Babers? Who else?!?!?! See my point?
I think you just made my point. It takes forever to get people to admit sh--! Thank you for having integrity, and I will respect you fully for that. I hope you realize I was responding to @ucfversusbcs
BTW, where were you on vaccines in 2021? I don't want to assume you were one of the people saying you could go to work because you couldn't get sick and spread it, and you don't need to wear masks any more.
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