This is true. But the environment where lawsuits for discrimination are being filed when they are not allowed to participate as their chosen gender is new. The atmosphere where colleges are honoring and being forced to honor the chosen gender in all things regardless of impact is new. Cancel culture is new.
It is not about lack of understanding or hate. Men are built different than women. They by nature are stronger, faster and simply put together differently. I doubt anyone would go thru the transgender thing to compete as an woman, that being said even with hormone therapy a trans gender person is still underneath the external changes a man. As an 16 to 18 year old I was anything but a jock, I would not have made the football, track, basketball nor base ball team, but still could outperform 95 percent of all female students and easily took spots from female athletes..
Interestingly, you talk about mainstream society being "forced" not to discriminate but describe "cancel culture" as new.
People aren’t “choosing” anything.
Your post is lack of understanding personified.
Because it created equal opportunities for women to succeed. It kept men out of the pool of their competition.
Yes, they are choosing. Their biological gender was not a choice. They then choose to live in the gender that they feel more attuned to. But no one and nothing is forcing them to change their biological gender nor to attempt to compete in their chosen gender.
Being trans is not a choice. Fundamental lack of understanding in plain view right there.
If it's not a choice, nobody should have the choice on who can participate in men's or women's sports.
I respect your opinion and I respectfully disagree. I also have no issues whatsoever with trans people. They have every right that everyone has. But I draw the line at the reality that they are biologically born in a gender and their body naturally follows that gender until they make the choice to medically intervene.
Agree that it’s a nuanced discussion but it’s a false equivalence to say that it’s similar to the difference between right and left handed players. That type of logic doesn’t really help the discussion.
They definitely are being vilified here. People acting like they’re just lurking, waiting to take sports spots away from biological females. Before that, trans individuals were just waiting in bathrooms waiting to peek at and rape others. People intentionally using the wrong gender, people suggesting this is a choice. One weird trick to be an elite athlete I guess.
Why are you defending women on this issue? I'm just curious why you think they are incapable of competing with men.
Because I was an athlete growing up and you can’t ignore the biological advantage males have over females. Even in sports where you’d think there is a more even field, like golf, women have not been able to equal the men. Look at the objective sports, like track or swimming, and the records for women compared to men.
I get your point on the pre-puberty hormone treatments. If that were reliably certifiable, then sure, I’ll buy it. But you’re arguing for nuance in a society that has thrown that away. Therefore, you’re not allowed to even test or ask anymore. Therein lies the obvious opportunity for exploitation. I would far prefer that we go back to taking nuanced approaches to everything.
So how long do you have to hear the narrative that men and women are equal in every way before you give them what they want? I'm cool with having men compete with women on an equal footing in every aspect of society and that meritocracy is proven to be an undeniable fact of life.
Holy Exaggeration, Batman! What women want is EQUAL pay for EQUAL work. Is that too much to ask?
I dont understand why that is an exaggeration. Women and equal to men. There is no reason whatsoever that they should be protected from competition from men, whether it be in athletics or in business.
Did you see me comment on the USA women's soccer thread?
So a professional basketball player that plays 48 minutes should be paid the same regardless of gender.
The best quote from the below that lay bare your idiocy: “The “gender wage gap” is as real as unicorns and has been killed more times than Michael Myers.”
Yes we know some degenerates previously claimed being gay was a mental illness too.
Cancel culture is not new. It’s been used fir decades to suppress those who speak up. It was used to suppress abolitionist press, civil rights and most recently attempts to speak out against police aggression. You just don’t like the consequences of it being used against Republican power.
Nobody is cancelling people who speak out against police aggression. The exact opposite is happening as businesses that support the police are losing contracts with universities, governmental organization, and media providers. Anti-police activists are being enriched in today’s society while never actually addressing the real issues with the communities and with police-community relations. The people that are actually trying to do this work, and succeeding in some places, aren’t out protesting in front of any camera they can get to record them.
We're talking human psychology, dumbass.
Oooooooooh, Doctor KNIGHTTIME is now Scientist KNIGHTTIME. Yeah, nobody knows about viral science and human sexuality like you.
Yeah, 'woke propaganda' like the science about all this "gay stuff" or a worldwide contagious virus that's actually "just the sniffles."
I'm 100% for Title IX. I want women's sports to not continue, but flourish, and become as well funded as men's. Same with seeing more women in STEM, and hopefully C-level does equalize in just another generation as some predict.
Title 9 cannot exist if we allow transgendered people to compete in whatever sport they want. It's as simple as that.I'm 100% for Title IX. I want women's sports to not continue, but flourish, and become as well funded as men's. Same with seeing more women in STEM, and hopefully C-level does equalize in just another generation as some predict.
But destroying things without due process has undermined it. I think we've had a good decade of seeing this happen.
I'm all for fair pay and sharing, I wish that would be the focus. But destroying things, people's lives, without a real hearing, that's just stupid.
And I do think if this isn't addressed, we will see the end of women's sports, and the whole purpose for them. That would be a negative in the eyes of many women, but like end of segmented bathrooms, I'm all for unisex ones out of sheer simplicity
No more waiting on stalls... for anyone. Now no more 'askerisks' for anyone. Women will lose, but that's what some want I guess.
I mean, biologically born women are bigots for asking for biologically born men transgenders have to take certain chemicals?
Oh, I forgot, it's bigotry to even suggest biologically born men have significant, physical advantages and, more specially, can be limited with chemicals, and usually are for transgender.
This is where political correctness >> biology and chemistry. Sigh... needs to stop.
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