Give Gus credit, he changed up his play calling to fit Keene’s skillset. Mikey really looked sharp on those sideline and slant routes, definitely an improvement from last year and an improvement ball placement wise from JRP. I was very impressed
Mikey Keene is the guy, put some respect on his name!
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Mikey's growth and confidence are what makes him QB1 at this point. His mental approach has improved night and day in the year between Cincy games. College football is all about these guys growing and maturing and Mikey has done both. I thought Gus would name JRP QB1 because of his potential and he did. Now I think he will use Mikey's growth and confidence, ability to distribute the ball and manage the game as the reason to make Mikey QB1. The good news, when JRP is ready to play again, is that we'll have 2 QB's who can play at this level and are much different to defend.
That will be fine if Gus let's him play the way he is capable of playing and not the way Gus still believes all QBs should play. Not all great QBs are runners any more than all successful offensives need running QBs.
Watching the post game stuff on the youtubes and what a celebration for Mikey. ucfsports post game vid shows the crowd chanting his name and also him looking for his parents that came to see him play from Arizona. What a night for him. Super stoked on how last night's game played out. College football is the best reality show on Tv. I had to watch the game late night on DVR, but I couldn't get to sleep at 2am all fired up for that win and Mikey.
I agree but only if Gus insists on an offense that relies on a running QB which he probably will. He may be too old to change.
What? Like an offense that has an accurate QB with a quick release and great game management skills. Right!
His parents have been at every game.
UCF PPG in Mikey Keene's starts: 28.1 (10 games)
UCF PPG in JRP's starts: 35.75 (8 games)
So you can feel they played better offensively, but they didn't actually.
Do you know for sure he plans on transferring? Did Gus tell him to transfer because he never plans to use him? That would be foolhardy since he has proven he can win games for us. I believe the only reason he would transfer is if Gus told him he has no future here. Of course I don't have that inside information, only a supposition.
So for some people I suppose it's more about the score than the wins and loses?
42% vs 33% true but hardly worth quibbling about. Bashers of Mickey make it sound like he's shouldn't be playing football and JRP is going to be our football savior.
Have no idea who Mickey is......
There hasn't been a single basher of Mikey on this thread. We all agree he played great last night, showed improvement, and deserves to play somewhere.
But it is probably not here in the offense Gus wants to run.
Bc JRP is already a Senior and having seen him play enough it is surprising Gus is willing to risk his coaching career w him. especially if he wants to come back next season …yes he is fast as hell but he misses simple reads
I thought he was going to go to Castellanos after the injury . He really cares about redshirts in the transfer portal era
I thought he was going to go to Castellanos after the injury . He really cares about redshirts in the transfer portal era
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JRP is 5-2, unless you’re only counting this Cincy game for him only. They each played 1/2 the game so they cancel each other out. Nobody gets the win, except the team.
Maybe if he starts the rest of this year he stays but as soon as JRP was named starter Keene redshirting and transferring was the talk on multiple platforms. I doubt Gus told him he’d never be the starter. But he wasn’t and wants to be a starter somewhere.
I have no idea what those numbers are, but they certainly aren't win percentages. I think both guys are flawed, but in pretty much every way, despite his issues, JRP has been better than Keene was last year. Now is it possible that Keene has taken a huge jump since his freshman year? Sure, but I'm going to need to see more than a half of good quarterbacking to come to that conclusion on whether he has.
The baseball analogy is the starter must go a certain number of innings (used to be 6, have no idea what it is now) to get a win......JRP didn't make it to halftime.
JRP gets the win, he started the game. wins-losses aren't the be all end all, for QB performance. I agree that Keene played better than him yesterday, but like I mentioned earlier, we had the lead when JRP went out and got out outscored when Keene was in. Obviously other factors, but if the only argument I get back is how much of a "winner" Keene is, then that has to be mentioned.
I'm sure you know that PPG doesn't tell the whole story. How many points were scored by the defense. Did the defense give our offense good field position. Did our offense turn the ball over which lead to points? Etc.
Keene outscored JRP, why don't you frame it that way?
We only scored in the first half bc RJ Harvey makes an Odell Beckham esq catch from 5 yards when JRP over throws him.
We got outscored bc our RBs fumbled in the 5 yard line twice, this has nothing to do with Keene vs JRP, irrelevant.
Oh yeah, Mikey hasn't taken an in game snap in 11 months.
Mikey also throws a higher completion percentage and yards per catch in the second half than JRP did in the first half.
The crowd chanted Mikey after the game, the crowd never chanted JRP for any game.
UCF got ranked in coaches poll after Keene came in, not under JRP.
I appreciate you trying to defend JRP, but come on man, you're cherry picking and your arguments are bad.
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Look. I like JRP because he is one heck of a competitor and has good speed and strength. However, unfortunately he lacks the passing and game management skills a good QB has to have. Given time and the right coaching staff he may have developed into a good QB but one season is not enough after a long lay off. Time and resources need to be spent on underclassmen at this point.
Are you going to believe your lying eyes or what other's tell you. Keene was clearly in control of the game more than we ever saw from JRP against the #20 ranked team that hasn't lost a league game in 19 tries. His passes were quick and right on the money. JPR isn't bad...Keene is just better. IMO of course. JRP still has a lot of value.
Dude I am supporting Keene in my post lol. I am refuting Colonel who is discrediting Keene imo.
I'm one of the few who said we should start Keene back in August
Lol.. I wasn't responding to you. I was just trying to to support your view.
Yes, I'm cherry-picking stats like points per game, yards and win %. I really had to dig for those.
The crowd chanted for Keene? I stand corrected, throw the stats out the window.
considering our almost complete lack of turnovers forced on defense this year, I'm pretty sure that would help any pro-JRP argument.
I don't care which one starts. Just let BOTH play. Make defenses defend the whole field. Make defenses have to prepare for BOTH QBs. That way, you maximize (sideshow) JRP's legs and Keene's arm.
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People seem to forget that we went 6-7 in KZ's freshman year with an embarrassing loss to Arkansas State in the bowl. In Keene's freshman year he went 7-3 with a win over the Gators - the only UCF quarterback that can say that. I don't see how anyone can hate on him after that win.
You all should know by now not to discredit a QB by their performance their freshman year. It's very rare in college that a freshman QB comes in and just lights it up.
All that said, I'd still be surprised if we see Keene in more than 3 more games. Coach said in the press conference they're trying to preserve his redshirt. JRP will be the starter @Tulane, book it.
You all should know by now not to discredit a QB by their performance their freshman year. It's very rare in college that a freshman QB comes in and just lights it up.
All that said, I'd still be surprised if we see Keene in more than 3 more games. Coach said in the press conference they're trying to preserve his redshirt. JRP will be the starter @Tulane, book it.
Well he may be trying to preserve his redshirt but in my opion If JRP plays against Tulane, we lose.
We need to play whoever will lead us to win. Keene has an intensity about him the team responds to to it. Look at the celebration pics from Saturday. JRP definitely has swag. Maybe its a matchup call? JWB
Temple didn’t seem to out prepare us with 2 QBs. They have to be good. Just throwing 2 out there isn’t going to get you wins.
