No doubt. And there were a lot of dropped passes at critical points. We know we can win with JRP but we also know we can win with MK as per his volume of work last season as a freshman. Which one has the most upside is the question I have? I think it is MK but that is why Gus makes the big bucks. As others have stated maybe the best situation is to play both of them. Keene has shown he can come in cold and perform.
If JRP isn't cleared to play it's all already decided. If he is ready, I would still like to see Keene get the start and if the wheels come off then let JRP come in and see what he can do. But like you said that's why Gus gets paid the big bucks.
I don't know if we lose but it makes Tulane's pass coverage a little easier. Keene has a quicker release and is more accurate.
Keene definitely improved on the windmill throwing motion which made me happy
He did, he looked great. Shame we couldn’t cash in on the back to back fumbled red zone trips. This game wasn’t as close as it was, should have been a comfortable win but that’s football. Our Defense and rushing game was so good. So glad Harvey got more touches, that one handed catch was so sick. He’s amazing. Johnny Richardson deserves more touches too though.
I said earlier i. The season that we would beat cincy. I feel we could have thumped then without the redzone fumbles
He had a 94.7 QBR and a 90+ PFF grade. Which grades elite. CJ Stroud is the nations leader in QBR for qualified players at 93.1. JRPs QBR was 30.4 before he was injured. A WR playing QB.
Hey, my point all along has been let's see more than a half from Keene before we declare him the man. Apparently that's an unreasonable take from this board.
Maybe you have reading comprehension issues. Because the post you quoted of mine was in response to someone questioning the use of the term “fantastic” to describe Mikey Keene’s play yesterday. According to QBR and PFF his play graded “elite”. No one ever claimed that he was elite or fantastic last season.
I said just for reference. You might want to read the title of the thread you're posting in.
Cool reference I guess. Out of curiosity, what do you think Milton’s 2016 QBR was?
Not good. Circumstances were a little different, I'd say. Milton taking over a team that didn't win a game the previous season. Keene taking over a team that expects to play in a NY6 bowl every year.
QBR is a rating of individual performance. Milton took over a team that was 1 year removed from back to back conference titles.
QBR is not traditional QB rating based on a formula. It (along with PFF grades) is an analysis on a play by play basis of the individuals performance. Regardless of whether the play was successful or not.
If JRP is healthy Mikey will be redshirting this year. That’s why TC was playing garbage time the first 7 games of the year. We have 5 more games and I highly doubt Keene will play in all those games if JRP is healthy. Also the future in a Gus style offense is TC or Timmy.
Not sure where you’re getting those stats.
We were assured by the experts on this board, many of whom probably booed Milton off the field downtown, however that Keene didn't have the "it factor," which I think is related somehow to the "eye test" we heard about in 2017.
I think we all knew coming in that JRP was a boom or bust guy as a QB. Running ability gave him a high ceiling, but passing ability kept the floor low. Mikey Keene was the more stable option. Cerebral, less turnovers, better passer. The thought was his ceiling was lower than JRP though which is what he wasn’t starting. If we see more performance like Saturday though we will need to reevaluate what his ceiling truly is. The QB we saw in him on Saturday can lead us to the conference title for sure.
QBR created by ESPN. Seems to have become the accepted Quarterback rating over the traditional one you posted in recent years.
QBR and passer rating are different.Not sure where you’re getting those stats.
2021 Freshman Mikey Keene passer rating was 133.2
2022 (Small sample) 141.8
2019 Fr, JRP’s 108.4
2022 JRP‘s 148.8
Only one game, but Mikey looked poised, made big time 3rd down passes which were on the money, had several long drives with clutch passes, and mounted a comeback win….what more do you want? I’m at the point where anyone who doesn’t give Mikey credit for helping us win games has zero credibility. Their refusal to admit they were wrong in their assessment is unfair and pathetic.
Kid’s a leader who fights to the end and finds a way to get first downs and win the game. He’ll make good plays and make mistakes, but he’s progressing as a young QB only in his second year. That “long wind up” and “noodle arm” looked damn good Saturday night vs a good team. He showed a strong arm and the ability to run…not like JRP…but still effectively.
We can win with either QB, but Mikey looks like the better passer…while JRP the better runner. We already have very good rbs…we need someone who can throw the ball to keep defenses honest.…and I still think JRP will only get better passing as well. JRP was not playing poorly…RJ made a great catch and he missed some throws but JRP is improving. I actually think Gus sticks with JRP despite Mikey looking like the better passer.
I love both of them and their competitiveness . They fight for every yard like they have something to prove, they’re leaders and seem like quality, hard working young men….not the “trash” some of our over reactive and emotional fans call them
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The one I posted in recent years? What does that have to do with your quoted qbr numbers? I just posted ESPN's statistic about passer rating with links and wondered why they differ from what you have.
That clarifies where his qbr came from and differed from what I found. 👍2024 College Football Season Leaders Total QBR | ESPN
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It’s a qualitative rating of player performance rather than quantitative. It is a play by play analysis of player performance and not tied to stats.
