I think it is a good chance he is cleared, came out from the locker room quickly (so the light didn’t bother him a lot), was wearing sunglasses at first but ditched those, and the noise didn’t bother him. His issue was trying to run back to the huddle, he should have walked and gotten his legs back under him.
Mikey Keene is the guy, put some respect on his name!
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Not because I would like to see Mikey get the start, I just hope they don't take any chances. It's not worth it.
I agree....give Mikey a start and see how he does. Also, he threw well but on the fumbles (and especially the 2nd) he should have pulled it and run. That will be one of the biggest challenges with Mikey and we need to see if he can figure that out. A complete opposite from JRP.
Kenny Pickett left a Steelers game a couple weeks ago because of a concussion and played the following week. You just have to pass the tests. Should be mandatory you sit out at least 7 days after an obvious concussion. Falling down while trying to walk is obvious. Its on the more serious side as well.
Very true. Not something to fool around with certainly not in a contact sport like football.
But you took it seriously enough to respond... If we win out, who really cares which QB it was. I support them both.
As Gus said from the outset, we can win with either. So let's proceed accordingly, as determined by health status and the decisions of our coaches.
seen some ucf twitter discussion assuming we still win if JRP doesn’t gets knocked out ..I am not so sure ..does JRP get the ball out quick for these chunk plays in the air? can he lead a 2 minute drill from behind to win a game? Vs Louisville he didn’t see the field and froze ….
We definitely need to see Mikey against Memphis. He was in control against Cincy and should be able to repeat that against Memphis. But they will also scheme for him so we'll see how he does when he's not the surprise replacement. They'll also prepare for his passing not running and will expect him to hand it off and not pull it on the option plays. He had a challenge with that as a Frosh and a couple times against Cincy where he should have pulled the ball and we ended up turning it over. He and the backs will need to get in sync. Looking forward to seeing what he's got for an entire game when the D expects him to be our QB. BTW, don't be surprised if Gus keeps the starter in his pocket until late in the week to make Memphis prepare for both. You have to bet that last week they were preparing for JRP.
I think too much is made of preparing for a specific qb. The playbook is the same. Sure one runs more than the other, but in that video above they were rushing three with a spy. It's not like they were selling out for the qb run.
I have no dog in this fight and really don't care who starts but I will say that JRP hasn't beat a team with a winning record, in a game he starts and finishes, while at UCF.
So what? He's started 8 whole games in his career here. He can't control the other teams' records.
Think Keene is a better fit with our receivers along with Harvey being a better starting back.
Plumlee caught only 25 passes over two seasons at the WR position. I don’t think he would provide much at the WR position, especially at this point of the season. If he was such a “weapon” Ole Miss must have not gotten the memo. We have plenty of other players to get the ball to in space other than Plumlee.
I think there is a lot of nuanced arguments here, most valid in both cases. I see it a little simpler. I see one QB playing in a system in year 1. The other is playing in a system in year 2.
Which is better “now” or “later”? That’s why Gus gets paid to make that call.
Which is better “now” or “later”? That’s why Gus gets paid to make that call.
Need Bowser to play QB at Navy and USF. Keene keeps his RS (Cinci, Memphis ,Tulane championship)
Technically, JRP and Mikey both have one.
As discussed earlier in this thread the Cincy win goes to him.
Mikey's one was over 7-5 ECU in 2021. (They were 3-3 after we beat them)
You may give the win to JRP but most of us agree it was Mikey who got us the win.
I'm not giving him anything it's literally how the rule works. If you don't want to credit JRP with the win in your mind fine, but if you don't give it to him you certainly can't give it to Keene, with Keene entering the game near halftime with a touchdown lead.
If that's the case than Keene's only win against a team with a winning record was squeaking out a win at home against an ECU team who was 3-3 after we beat them.
We all know who you are Mr. Plumlee. Your son is a great player and leader. But you're on an island with your view. Don't make me start a poll.
I actually think Plumlee's been a bit disappointing this year. I'm just not convinced that Keene is this completely different player after a one half of good QB play. He had good halves in 2021, they were just few and far between. I need to see more.
Nothing I have said has been wrong. I back up all my arguments, which I know is weird for this board.
Please heavens, don't start a poll. Anything but a poll!
Do not remember Keene ever looking that in command last year at any point .
even Coach Fickell said it in the postgame ‘he came in and made passes they weren’t making ‘ . It was the quick decisions which we don’t see w Plumlee
He made similarly good decisions during the FL game IMO, but didn’t have the same zip on the ball.
He looks stronger and faster, as he should after a year of training at the college level. And he didn’t have to deal with any drops.
When Mikey's at QB you wouldn't expect them to sell out for the QB run....right? No, they were in prevent and it allowed him some short/medium routes to throw to. Again, let's see Mikey's production when the D is scheming for him. I think he's smart enough to get the job done but it won't be as easy as these 2 throws were.
I agree but he did cut down on his trhowing motion and did have more zip on his passes. He even gained a first down with his legs which was cool.
Yep, and Mikey was also impressive with his timing and accuracy. If we see that for 60 minutes his transition will be confirmed. Let him show us if he can do it Gus!
In the video referenced where he completed a couple of passes.....Yep they were in prevent.
Looked like a 4-3 and a spy on QB. The spy was a wasted defender with Keene in. I guess his one good run scared them. It opened up downfield throws too.
Do we really need to do this? Let's count the 3 DL (1,2,3) at the line of scrimmage who rushed. The others are LB's and I agree that the one who spied Mikey was a gift. The other LB's dropped into their zones. Prevent D....
Corners were 2 yards off LOS. Thats not prevent. On the Harvey run there were 8 guys on LOS. Not prevent in any way. Nickel is not prevent. Neither is dime.
It obviously wasn’t a prevent defense. Lol. Nobody plays a prevent defense to start the second half when trailing in a game.
@Colonel Mortimer
Are you not entertained yet? This is your last chance to hop on the Mikey Keene bus.
78% completion percentage, 3 TDs, in first start in 10 months.
I do think JRP should have some involvement in the offense. But the primary slinger should be Keene
Are you not entertained yet? This is your last chance to hop on the Mikey Keene bus.
78% completion percentage, 3 TDs, in first start in 10 months.
I do think JRP should have some involvement in the offense. But the primary slinger should be Keene
Played well enough to win. Id start Mikey next week and only make a switch if he’s playing bad.
Gotta let him play the full game because, after all, he's 4th quarter Mikey
I'm not Luke Fickle and I didn't get to watch but the last four minutes of the UCF-Cincy game, but I knew Keene (and virtually any QB with a pulse) could make throws that Plumlee wasn't making.
But also, I know that UCF is better with Keene AND JRP than it is with only one or the other.
Plumlee is a great athlete and competitor and a useful asset but Keene would be my main QB. AT least until he proves otherwise.
